US Troops Cut Off Route between Aleppo And Raqqa After Making Surprise Airdrop Near Tabqa – Unconfirmed

Putin made a mistake and withdrew his forces last year when he had the terrorists under his thumb and the Yanks did not have bases in Syria. He should have finished the job and f*ck world opinion, who really cares what the world thinks anyway but since then countless Syrians have lost their lives and more infrastructure has been destroyed.

I agree with this . I never liked the ceasefires and the partial withdrawal . And Turkey is playing dirty games .Now supporting HTT in Hama

That was a quick reply. Putin trying to stay within the UN resolutions and International Law when his enemies do not and that is a sign of weakness, in war you fight to win and not to make friends or forgive the enemy, Putin has been doing this with the US and Turkey.
If Putin is playing them off against each other then he is playing a dangerous game because it is impossible to predict all potential events and results.

SAA and Putin again got tricked . They thought after Aleppo everything is finished , It is not

This war in Syria has been ordained and put in action many years ago. Reagan negotiating with Russia to dismember the USSR had a hidden agenda and that was to take Russia softly, engage a US parliamentary system governed by US proxies. US has known for the past 50 years that it would require huge resources not just minerals and energy but fresh water, they have destroyed or used up much of theirs so Russia had to be conquered for its’ resources so that the US can survive and continue with its’ hegemony.

never heard or read about that. Maybe you can read SAA or Putin’s mind?

Well – you know what they say: Trick me once, shame on you. Trick me twice (or, in the case of Putin and SAA, “TRICK ME OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN”), shame on….!

I think it is because Assad and the iranians thought they could do whatever the fuck they wanted while Russia expended a lot of money and diplomatic efforts in the war.

Now you see that Putin is dictating what is happening and things are going well. The SAA would never be able to capture Raqqa, they still have not cleared Damascus after all these years. And the only reason Aleppo fell so quickly was because of Putin’s dealing with Erdogan.

So forget about dreams of capturing every corner of Syria, shut up and do what Putin tells you before you are overwhelmed by “moderate” rebels in the heartland while going after Raqqa and Deir Ezzor.

Spot on and Putin needs to engage some heavy artillery and not worry about destroying infrastructure. Russia has very reliable ground intel, the collateral damage is limited.

I think you’re probably correct in most of your assessment. It appears that the SDF/US coalition will take Raqqah and it very well might have been predetermined behind closed doors at the highest levels. The SAA has a massive insurgency on its hands and at this point any hopes by some factions to prevent the creation of large swaths of autonomous Kurdish territory should be dashed. The pseudo-alliance between the SAA/Russia and the SDF/US which has stopped Turkish advances has drastically changed the outcome in favor of the SDF and it wouldn’t surprise me if Putin has accepted this is a reality and is now himself finding inroads diplomatically and militarily with the Kurds to pave the way for future relations.

There was never a way for the SAA+allies to liberate Raqqa in a reasonable timeframe and with reasonable cost in lives and expenses. I think the goal was to get to that Tabqa airbase/town near the dam and have some kind of participation in the battle. This is what the SAA tried to do a few months ago when they advanced from Ithriya (when they erroneously thought the kurds would attack Raqqah very soon) but got routed.

But obviously USA today made sure that will not happen with their operation near the dam. They may want to create a puppet sunni state to the south of the kurdish territory.

The dam has, confirmed, been taken in a direct assault from the north.

Rest easy, there will not be a sunni state to the south of kurdish territory. Most likely, there will be another canton formed that at some time will join the Northern Syria federation on the lines of Manbij. It will be a majority sunni arab canton within a secular setting.

Phantasizing a bit, it might even be possible to imagining a DeZ canton.

I think Putin and the American generals worked out an arrangement for the SDF to eradicate ISIS from the regions bordering the rivers while the SAA wipes them out inside the Syrian Desert and their western positions. Then we may see the SDF move into the Syrian Desert to protect the oil and gas fields so the SAA can have more troops available to get after the rest of the extremist groups in Western Syria.

I can’t know for sure but the more territory that the SAA takes, the more bargaining power Assad and Putin will have in the future negotiations. So I don’t think the US want to see Assad consolidating his position.

“To protect the oil and gas fields” , really means the US wants to seize them , to have and hold , cutting Syria’s income to nothing , not able to fund an army , never mind rebuilding .

Why would the USA want Syria’s oil? There’s only about 2 bil barrels in reserve and most of that is a very low grade heavy sour crude that’s half waste asphalt after being refined. The other 21 gallons yields around 11 gal. of kerosene, 5 gal. of mineral spirits, a few gal. of gasoline and the rest crappy lubricating oils. Syria exported most of that and brought in finished products instead. ISIS refined it in makeshift teapot operations to use the kerosene as diesel fuel which wound up ruining the engines fast due to it’s high sulfur content. The US military analysts noticed Daesh vehicles in their videos were starting to smoke badly for being rather new so figured that the idiots were using their own refined fuels and was best to leave their hidden refineries alone so they could continue the practice.

Daesh , banked two billion trucking it across the border into Turkey in two years , so its more than chump change , even if half of it was Iraqi .
Why is the US still in Iraq , there are no WMD , but there is still a lot of oil . If you have seen the Rand corp.’s map of Syria , the Raqqa – Deir Azzor , “International Administration Zone” , just happens to hold most of Syria’s oil fields along the river . Other think tanks have called the same area , “Sunnistan” , just a hundred thousand Christians to sacrifice in Deir Azzor . If the Kurds stop following orders , or the Iraqi’s drive them out , they still have a little “safe haven” from which to keep the neighborhood on fire .
You might be right though , Putin and the US may have reached some deal , its just observable that once the US enters a country , they are there for a reason (“interests”) , and rarely leave .

I like Putin but he make quick decisions which have negative impact on long run.Quik peace with Erdogan,quick agreement on S-400 dangerious never detecting system to Erdogan,quick ceasefires,quick withdrawal,quick terrorist relocation to Idlib but taking long to protect his reliable friends.Friends like North Korea,China,Iran,Libya Gaddafi died,Iraq Saddam died,Syria,Cuba and Venezuela.

It is disappointing looking at it that way, sometimes you can be too clever for your own good. Russia of old would have the war in Syria over by now and a lot of prisoners off to Siberia as forced labour helping in constructing the railways, roads etc..

The Stalin way, long live STALIN!

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/381243-iran-mosul-iraq-us-trump/

The matters you refer to pertained about the situation around and in Aleppo, Putin could have deployed an airborne brigade in the proximity where the Americans first established an air base of sorts, however, that was not part of the strategy.
SAA can move the two pincers north and south towards Racca, if the Americans dig in, they can bypass them and cross the Euphrates; After all, let US and their surrogates fight ISIS in Racca, street by street while SAA can create a strong position outside of Racca. I do not believe the US force will be terribly strong, maybe a few thousand, SAA and the Russians have the better position of internal lines of communications and supplies……and US does not like to take a lot of casualties.

another big russian stratgos arrived—

The SAA can’t even clear ISIS out of the Syrian Desert which is required to gain access to the roads leading up to Raqqa and Deir Azzor.

Straggling ISIS units, or parts of the former units roaming the Syrian desert does not constitute a major threat to SAA advancing units with proper air support.
How can you clear a desert of roaming rats, by chasing them all over the desert, diluting your forces that become succeptible to counterattacks?
SAA should stay focused on their axis of advance and keep their forces concentrated within close proximity and keep advancing.
ISIS is too weak in numbers and equipment to oppose them, therefore any successful counterattacks would have limited value and cause heavy casualties.

i think that Putin’s erratic policy and peace -making with terrorists is a huge blunder, unworthy of a true chessmaster

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The Rand partition map,….If** already conceeded to ( possibly different in outcome
Than the Rand Map published)
If so….Why expend effort and cost, …when Deir Ezzor City and Areas allocated
To Assad will be given?
Russia could prove the Map wrong by taking Deir Ezzor City and the important
Oil nat/gas concessions south of Deir Ezzor City on the western reaches and East of The Euphrates.
Assad could mobilize troops for this,…Iran could send troops (Temporarily )..
To secure that as leverage in future Geneva negotiations.
Breaking up the Iran/Shia Crescent in article below makes sense that Empire
And Israhell want this.
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/381243-iran-mosul-iraq-us-trump/

Maybe Putin dissed Netanyahu over Israel’s Safe zone,
Sort of. …”Your the primary reason all this insanity is going down,…screw your
demands….you trouble us”.
Putin’s got lots and lots of Jewish Oligarchs on his periphery…
Part of the reason Donbass is painfully slow game turns as Oligarchs in Russia
play cards against Euro bankers.

Putin is a grand master.We do not know what will be his next move.At least Syria will survive.Not like Iraq,Lybia.

Can never trust SDF, look at what happened in Hasakah last year for example, they attacked SAA in the area and dream of a Kurdistan is always their goal. They are friends now but their will be skirmishes which would be dealt with diplomatically.

Well as long as they’re another problem for daesh and lifts some burden from SAA is fine by me lol