US-led Coalition Carried Out Airstrikes On Syrian Army Convoy Advancing Towards Iraqi Border

US-led Coalition Carried Out Airstrikes On Syrian Army Convoy Advancing Towards Iraqi Border

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A Jordanian warplane operating under the US-led coalition carried out airstrikes against a Syrian Arab Army (SAA) convoy advancing along the Al-Tanf-Damascus-Baghdad international road. The airstrikes targeted Syrian forces in Al-Shuhaimi area, 50 km from the town of Al-Tanf located at the Syrian-Iraqi border.

The airstrikes destroyed two battle tanks, and damaged a Shilka vehicle, several pickups and trucks. Six SAA fighters lost their life and 3 were injured.

According to some US defense official, cited by the Russian state-run news agency Sputink, the US coalition commander considered the Syrian army as a threat to coalition troops.

“The commander on the ground perceived this force to be a threat to coalition forces,” the defense official said.

Meanwhile, Jaish al-Thwar, a US-backed Free Syrian Army group, claimed that its militants have clashed with the SAA and prevented it from approaching the Al-Tanf area.

According to pro-US sources, coalition warplanes targeted some Shiite militias, not the SAA. However, Shiite militias operation at the Al-Tanf road don’t have tanks or Shilka vehicles and there were many pictures and videos showing the presence of elements of the SAA in the area.

It is believed that the US is oing to use the Shiite militias issue as a pretext to stop the advance of the SAA in the area. The US-led block is working to isolate Syria from Iraq by land, supporting the Israeli desire to prevent Iran from transferring weapons to Hezbollah in Syria via Iraq.

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RGtz98

Fuck the US coalition

Bill Wilson

Syria would’ve been in total chaos today if it wasn’t for the coalition ganging up on ISIS.

K Pomeroy

Yes, maybe so, but they shouldn’t be ganging up on Assad.

lifeattheendofempire

It would be in chaos? Its not in chaos right now, due to the half a billion in funding the illegal yanky led coalition of sheep has given to terrorist groups? They have done very little to degrade ISIS, and have no interest in defeating them, they want to shove them towards Government controlled areas.

Who pays you to post here on every thread, is this the best troll the CIA can afford?

Len Zegelink

fuck the usa en fsa .and the cowards kurds to

Alex

if US will manage to win this one kurds will find themselves disposable very soon

dutchnational

As I read the article correctly, this had nothing to do with the kurds or the SDF.

So, I am rather confused by your comment.

Alex

i’ve responded to the comment above, he mentioned kurds.

dutchnational

I reread the article. It mentioned FSA, not kurds or SDF. As far as I know those are at least some 200 kms away from Tanf.

So again, kurds?

Alex

Again, i’ve responded to the comment above.

“Len Zegelink
2 hours ago
fuck the usa en fsa .and the cowards kurds too”

dutchnational

Then why are you reacting to a fake comment?

Did you not read the article?

Sometimes it is better to react with knowledge. It seems that in this case you did not.

Alex

What’s fake about the comment ? Am i not allowed to respond to another person how i see fit ? Once again i’m responding to a person, i am having a convo. If i would be spamming comments that do not have anything in common with the article that would be different.

Tudor Miron

Stop this ball$it :) Alex reacted to comment that was not in context of the article. Why don’t you direct your criticism to Len who started that Kurds mentioning? Don’t even bother answering :)

dutchnational

I won’t

NeoLeo

Did you read the first comment? Obviously not…. So stop spamming bullshit, just apologize for your stupidity and sod off.

Admiral_Moorer_believed

You really need to re read his response. Your ignoring what he said and then criticising it again makes you look like a fool.

888mladen .

He doesn’t just look like he is the one. The best to ignore him.

dutchnational

No, one is foolish attacking a group not mentioned in the article at all because another fool makes a slur against kurds, who are not even mentioned in the article.

It just shows that people react without reading an article carefully, which is also foolish.

That was the point. Not his “excuse”.

jj

Kurds will be needed in a partition. The U.S. has continued to support the Iraqi Kurds for decades. It needs their help to a good degree and it will perpetually use them a bit towards Turkey to try and keep Erdogan in line.

888mladen .

Kurds in ME are an equivalent to Albanians in Balkans.

King_GeorgXIII

And russia is quiet again! Shame on them shoot them down!

FlorianGeyer

Have patience. Russia will reply when the time is right.

Solomon Krupacek

in 23th century. maybe.

Gary Sellars

you were told to fuck off.. now obey your superiors and desist

Solomon Krupacek

mlm :))))))))))))))))

AMHants

The ‘sofr psy-op’ activists are out.

XRGRSF

And, while waiting for the right time Russia, and Syria will die.

Tudor Miron

Feed this noncense to someone also. Most people here can see the facts and resolve 2X2 :) Syria was gone 2 yers ago. Nobody was giving more than a month to Assad staying in power. Look where we are now.

Solomon Krupacek

troll, go back in norway

XRGRSF

Tudor, I absolutely agree. However, there is still plenty of time for Russia to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The US has reached its position in the global order by being a cunning, viscous, lying bully. The US will continue to bully, and take until Russia stands up, and tells it to stop. If Russia does have the nads to call the bluff then the US will go screaming bat shit crazy, and then stop. If Russia expects the US to back down from lack of will, and/or money then Russia will be very disappointed.

zman

I think Putin is giving them enough rope to hang themselves. What ever he does it will be after sufficient provocation. When the Russian pilot was killed, he didn’t do the John Wayne bit, he bide his time and carefully planned his response. Everyone should remember how Turkey came out in that deal. The stakes are very high. Russia is outnumbered there and doesn’t want to show it’s hand until conditions are right. I understand how everyone feels, but Putin is dealing with duplicitous scum and has to be careful. Remember, the Russians have a great deal resting on the outcome of this god awful mess. They didn’t get this far being idiots.

XRGRSF

You’re correct, and I’m certain that Mr. Putin is well aware of the fact that he’s dealing with an American administration of sociopaths. However, he might consider slapping the US, from time to time, to prevent my fellow American’s from forcing him into a war. Otherwise, the US will continue its provocations until it’s forced to realize that there’s a down side to its actions. If the US truly wants war then Russia had better get out or get ready.

Where both Russia, and the US are concerned the conflict in Syria is for all of the marbles; more so for the US. Whichever side loses, loses it all.

Solomon Krupacek

russia is little mouse, teil between legs and has tremor befor american tomcat :(

Alex

You’re going toose your teeth soon :)

Solomon Krupacek

sure

Tudor Miron

Nah, this little troll hopes to hide behind his screen :)

Solomon Krupacek

ts ts ts!

Gary Sellars

stupid russophobe cnt…. Ukropi methinks…

Solomon Krupacek

:P

Gary Sellars

Sure, laugh it up buddy while the SAA exterminates the Jihadi roaches

Solomon Krupacek

:))))))

QUIN TÕNIS

Russia will tell to stop being disloyal and obey the orders given next time. Don’t bark at your master.

Judge_Death

Russia will do nothing :-/

Tudor Miron

Here they are :) Russia haters. Russia is guilty no matter what – it either does too much or not enough :) Knee jerk reactions is not the best approach when one looks at ME.

Solomon Krupacek

russia hater is your dog!

to name the reality does not mean hate.

NeoLeo

“russia hater is your dog!” dafuq??

Gary Sellars

fucking moron russophobe…

Russia is doing plenty, but they like to keep their actions below the radar horizon, and they are too adult to respond like stupid spolied children everytime the US pulls off some idiotic provocation.

Solomon Krupacek

hm …

Gary Sellars

hm…. says Solomon after his BF delivers a load into his mouth..

Solomon Krupacek

jajaja

jj

Russia is often an enabler. It went along with the UN decree to allow NATO to bomb Libya, which put Libya in the hands of terrorist gangs. It had the power to stop many such things but instead allowed the U.S. to get is way.

Gary Sellars

Russia was deceived by US sweet words that the np-fly zones was only to “defend civilians”, and medvedev (being the Atlantacist cuck that he is) accepted their lies, ignoring the advice from Putin who said the West couldn’t be trusted.

Putin was right, Medvedev was wrong, and Russian learned a great lesson that day. the US may have suceeded in ruining Libya, but the long-term price they will pay will hugely outweigh any fleeting gain.

Solomon Krupacek

:)))))

888mladen .

You better behave yourself. If obscenities are the only argument you have honestly you don’t belong here.

Jacek Wolski

I’m not sure why people feel the need to use so many profanities to get their points across. This back and forth shouting from long distances across the globe is defiling this forum. People need to take a page out of Lavrov’s or Putin’s etiquette, such monumental statesman they are.

Gary Sellars

I have plenty of good arguments, but I reserve adult responses for posters who are serious, not for the hate-filled childish Russophobe trollz.

Brad Isherwood

Tudor….the real history of Europe and Russia is the competition of the Vatican,
The Masonic houses, the Bankers,..Venetian to Rothschild.
The Church ran the Templars off.
Templar wealth reconstituted in Swiss Cantons to become future Swiss Banking.
Venetian Bankers were run off to Amsterdam. .then jump the channel to City of London….and later….Wallstreet.
https://archive.org/details/MyronFaganTheIlluminatiAndCouncilOnForeignRelationsNoiseReduced
VBR MP3 for most computer,tablet,phone.
This is premiere information not taught about history,
How the Rothschild bankers created the US Federal Reserve, the CFR,..
The UN.
The Masonic houses with bankers fronted wars from Napoleon Era forward to today.
Putin is playing the Masonic game. ..
Notice who put Putin into power,…and who is surrounding Trump
http://www.conspiracyschool.com/blog/donald-trump-chabad-lubavitch-and-oligarchs

The Masonic /Lubavitch side have complete insanity in motion as they do one world government and Moshiac return.
Humanity is the Sacrifice in both quests!

888mladen .

“Venetian Bankers” If I’m not wrong they are members of so called Black Nobility which has pledged their allegiance to Vatican after Garibaldi dismantled papal state. Even Frances Bacon in his drama Merchant of Venice has described one of their characters.

Brad Isherwood

The Venetian bankers and Certain Royal Blood lines of Europe trace back to
Babylon and earlier Sumer.
There is evidence that ancient lending/credit and extortion occured back then,
Along with narcotics traffic.
During an archeological dig in Jerusalems most ancient section,…they found numerous small clay vessels with Opium
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/ff/52/f0/ff52f0a6d39f9f4f3954a01c4557b0a0.jpg
Assyrian and Babylonian Kings are presented same with the Handbag and the
Flowering tree.
The Tree is the all chemical consciousness power of the Pineal gland or 3rd
Eye….the handbag is narcotics to activate the Pineal gland.

Admiral_Moorer_believed

Until it reaserts International Law by downing the Jordanian planes and destroying the illegal foreign invaders of Syria. . .

888mladen .

Most likely scenario.

Dejan

And who FSA represents in that desert when nobody lives there, FSA is USA backes militants used to destabilise Assad government which represnts majority of syrian people, if SAA reach iraq it would improve syrian economy but USA doesnt care about people they car only for zionist and saudi interests

Cycloben

Syria needs to fire off some ballistic missiles into that terrorist base, American troublemakers be damned.

Solomon Krupacek

Trustin Judeau, Jesus, where are you now???

PZIVJ

Perhaps you made him angry, and he does not want to talk to you.
Or he may be on a well deserved vacation.
Anyways it looks like SAA will not be advancing on Al Tanf.
Maybe a stalemate in the desert. But FSA can still be shot at.

Solomon Krupacek

hi is like little child in the kindergaten. if is not right, he is sulky. :DDDD

look, who owns the borders, owns the land.

Gregory Louis

That state mate makes no sense -.-…the SAA own pretty much all of the Western portion of Syria so do they own the land? No…and the rebels have long since lost this war as soon as Aleppo fell and the small pockets near Damascus and also if E. Ghouta falls that’s it

NeoLeo

“Trustin Judeau, Jesus, where are you now???” I’m not sure about Trustin, but Jesus is in heaven :D

Solomon Krupacek

:D

you will see, when he turn back to earth and will participate here :DDD

qveenz

The US coalition has just declared war to Syria not to Assad and neither to ISIS.

AMHants

They have been making a habit of declaring war on Syria, just forgotten to let their citizens know. Fully supported by the UN.

VeeNarian (Yerevan)

And so the partition of Syria is being crystallised. Only a strong Syrian-Iraqi-Iranian-Hezbollah response will teach the terrorist US/EU/NATO gang not to go down this road. Does the US realise how vulnerable their forces are in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan?
Do the Russians believe they still have a partner in the US?

jj

Russia shot its help for Syria in the foot once it started making deals and compromises with the U.S. The U.S. has a very aggressive long-term agenda and it knows how to maneuver towards them in these deals. It will also twist or break the rules to suit itself while accusing the opposite party of breaking them when it hasn’t.

Justin Ryan

Its Chess…. Not checkers. Look at turkey, allied with USA, then Russia, back to USA and now Russia again. No Syria is claiming Kurds as terrorists too.
Its complex. Also about a year ago, russia bombed a US special forces base on the southern Syrian border (Jordanian special forces) then when the outgoining forces returned to help, the Russians bombed them again.
But bombing UK and USA forces means that the same can b done in return. U can bet ur bottom dollar that russia has told Iran, Syria and Iraq at its all up to them to secure this border. Syria needs to start using its mig-25 and mig-31 interceptors. If they do, Jordan won’t try that again. BUK M1 and M2 should help them out.

jj

“Look at turkey, allied with USA, then Russia, back to USA and now Russia again.”

Which foreign country has had bases in Turkey during all that supposed switching of allegiances? Not Russia. Russia has no bases there. U.S. does and will continue to do so, plus Turkey is aiding the terrorists who are killing and taking over Syrian land. Turkey is a criminal nation. Turkey also stripped and looted Syrian factories and stores at the very beginning of the war. Huge convoys of full trucks were headed from Syria to Turkey.

Justin Ryan

I totally agree with u here. But there are so much more to these details. Lets just put it this way. Turkey is playing “opportunist” here. Also look at the Turkstream deal and the counter sanctions against Russia. Then the Erdogan written apology to Russia AND the wife of the downed su-24 pilot. Turkey was on its knees economically.
So to me, Turkey is ‘playing possum’. it just looking to benefit from whatever outcome. Allying itself with whomever. Using whatever leverage it has! And u have to admit that the Incirlik Airbase incident where Erdogan loyalists surrounded the base and then US forces later flying all of its nuclear warheads out of Turkey to Romania. These are big deals.
Also look at the Turkmen forces who withdrew from Idlib to combat the Kurds and isis. that was a deal made with Russia!

u know there are many different interests within this war. Even Jaish al islam (Saudi backed) vs HTS and Arar al sham (turkey backed) are fighting each other.

So come on…. this is a multi proxy war where there are some common interests on all sides. its crazy when u really look at the player, who they support and who they consider allies or enemies.

This is a real chess game!

Yes Turkey is scum but guess what….. They are a major help to anyone who shares common interests!
I could talk about this for hours but lets just say that the USA wants to balkanise Syria and Russia does not. Turkey’s goal to disallow Kurds to link up areas is just as important to Syria and Russia as it is to Turkey.
You can bet that back room deals are being made!

like I said its chess. This is an extremely complex situation we have in Syria!
USA has its 6 trillion and 25 year investment in the Middle East at risk here and it all boils down to this war.

US metro dollar and its ability to print its own wealth and be the global reserve currency which his ONLY enabled by Saudi Arabia and Qatar trading its oil and gas in US dollars!

Those damn gas pipes from Qatar through Syria and the eventual blockade of Russia’s energy market to Europe through Ukraine!

Which is why Turkey has a powerful position! Turkey wants the Transit Hub to Europes energy market to run through Turkey! If the US get their way it will be through Syria via the Kurdish Regions! Or they can force it to be through Turkey! Or they can make a deal with Russia and have Turkstream!

Money is the end game. Money and Energy markets! Turkey (although scum) are the key to the outcome of this war! That is why every country has its own loyal forces! Thats why every battle within Syria has its representative forces in its place of importance.

Russia didn’t fuck up anything!

888mladen .

Money is the end game driven by insatiable love of money and power. Very good analysis. Syria is the corridor in ME just like Corridor 10 in Balkans and just like US NATO have been using Albanians and Bosnian Moslems to secure Corridor 10 in Balkans in the same way they’ve been using Kurds to secure Syrian corridor and redraw the maps of both regions to suit their interests. Hence that talk about Balkanisation of Syria.US Dollar will collapse unless it maintains its position as a world currency thanks to its dominance over oil and gas energy sectors. However US ruling elite will never let it happen. I don’t see how RU would benefit out of all that since according to US inner state there is a place only for one superpower in the world and that’s US. They haven’t envisioned possibility of any power sharing with anybody.

lifeattheendofempire

China and Russia have reduced trade in dollars, and the middle east is indeed the only guarantor of the USs ability to print money, its only for this reason that they can print trillions and not inflate their currency, and therefore build a massive military. The moment the petrodollar trade declines, there will be a massive contraction of US military spending, and inflation will ensue.

Ive never met a single American who is aware of Muslims massacring orthodox christians in the southern balkans, because it does not fit the pro war CNN narrative of the 90s. Thanks to the illegal bombing of Yugoslavia, we now have a massive greater albania terror state, the leading human traffickers and heroin dealers in Europe (technically, not european). The US destroyed a stable socialist country because it was an ally of Russia, otherwise it would be against self determination there. It started the international jihadi movement, first in the 80s Afghan war, then Kosovo, and now look how its flourishing, did we ever have this level of terrorism in the past?

When it suits them, the US supports illegal self proclaimed independence, but not if its a Russian ally, then its bad. Kosovo, good. Donbass, Ossetia, bad.

Justin Ryan

All empires fall! USA is in the brink of falling! 20trillion in debt and USD at risk if being the reserve currency! Thats why this war could REALLY be the beginnings of WW3. The US will not accept an economic downfall such as this! They are not tough enough. Where as russians have been through it all before. The russian tsar and his family killed, communism installed UNDER A FUNDED COUP (bolsheviks). WW2 the russian were right on the edge of oblivion (but came back). The capitulation of the USSR. The chechnyan war (the oil rich region) and the oligrach rule and sell off of russian resources. Sanctions and the ruble collapse! But the russians just keep going. A cold, cold country but they just keep moving forward.

The USA hasnt experienced anything like what i just listed but if they did, the fattest nation in the world would just collapse like a house of cards! “Gluttony hastened the decline of the fall of Rome”!
This is occuring right now in the USA. The soon to be shortest living empire in history.
The reason i dislike the USA is because i think they are the enemy of the world!
And “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”!

lifeattheendofempire

Well said. Syria has been a target for illegal regieme change with no plan for post coup, and in spite of the complexities you outlined, the US has a commander in chief who DOES NOT READ. He wont read a daily briefing that hasnt been redacted and summarised. He has therefore left the whole mess in the hands of the CIA warmongers and genocidal maniacs to control.

The US has already supplied half a billion in illegal arms to the terrorists in Syria, to ensure the success of the barbaric Qatari camel f*ck anal rapists to prevail and have their pipe go through turkey.

All of this support, for gulf nations who have been attacking the US since before and including 9/11. They are just rerunning the mujaheddin strategy but it simply is not working, and their will be something that follows ISIS, ISIS is not the end, and the world will be cleaning up the mess unleashed by the US for decades.

John Whitehot

it’s not chess, it’s geopolitics.
Syrian MiG-31s? are you kidding?

btw, nice cat : )

lifeattheendofempire

The fake jordanian monarchy was created by the British, who dont believe in democracy except in small doses. They installed one tribe as kings after WW1, in exchange for trading oil using the dollar. The jordanians are children, even with deadly US jets, their troops are not combat tested. They will strip naked and run back to the desert if faced with a few dozen hezbollah or IRGC, let alone russian firepower. They are cowards and opportunists, helping the British overlords train jihadis from to invade an sieze the whole eastern part of Syria, but they will never be able to hold it.

The Syrians and Iranians are fighting in their back yard, British forces, which are no more than 200, and yanky occupiers would be under constant attack and eventually have to leave. Just as the British did in 2007 in Helmand when the Taliban had them surrounded. The same will happen in Syria, it does not belong to Jordanian or CIA backed terror groups, they are not the legitimate government, they are terrorists and will never be able to govern. You can brand them “freedom” this and “democratic” that, but they are wahabi and salafi scum, they know nothing about something they have never experienced, all they know is sharia, and they will die for their beliefs.

Mikronos

You think Russia has stopped helping Assad? You think they’re cooperating with the USA? Lemme show you a cruise ship I have for sale.

Free man

Russia is not Syrian-Iraqi-Iranian-Hezbollah. The United States is much more important to Russia than Iran / Hezbollah.
Do not expect Russia to implement Iran’s interests in Syria.
I read that the Americans asked the Russians to warn the convoy and ask them to stop. But the Iranians / Hezbollah were not willing to listen.

Gary Sellars

At the same time, the Russians know that a deal with Iran or Hezb-Allah is a deal taht will be respeted, while any deal with the US is subject to Uh’Murikkkan domestic politics and is likley to not last, and not be properly implemented in any case.

Free man

The deal between Russia and Iran is to preserve the current regime in Syria. It is clear that each side has other interests that are sometimes contradictory. So there is no violation of the deal. If Iran wants to control the border between Iraq and Syria with her proxies, Let her deal with the United States.

Ronald

The deal is between Russia and Syria , allies of more than 30 years .
Let us not forget that the border between Syria and Iraq is Syrian territory . If Iraqi and Iranian PMU’s help Syria , it is with Syrian permission . The United States has no business on the Syrian side of that border , they are now acting openly against international law .

Free man

1. If not for Russia and Iran, today the war in Syria was between Sunni extremist organizations and more radical Sunni organizations and Kurds and Sunni organizations supported by Saudi Arabia, etc.
2. At this stage Syria will do everything Iran tells her to do. It’s not a relationship between equals.
3. Which party is acting in accordance with international law? Each side is certain that he follows international law and the other side violates it.

888mladen .

So you recon by protecting its borders Syrian government has violated the international law? I’m not an expert in Int law but by what you have written you must be the one. However one thing I do know that legal process does not depend on how certain are parties involved about what they’ve done but on factual evidence of their deeds. .

Free man

Syria clearly has the right to defend all its borders.
But it was said that there were Shi’ite militias in the convoy. Which in my opinion serve, in this case, Iranian rather than Syrian interest.
At this stage Syria does not need to erode its power in a war against a superior force.

Gary Sellars

Syria has allies, some of those are present as Shia militias. So what is your point? Are you saying that Iraq or Iran has no rigjt to support a friendly neighbour in dealing with foreign-backed Wahabbi extremism, or that their presence somehow delegitimisies the Syrian cause? if so, what about the mass presence of foreign jihadists from Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Jordan, Turkey, Xinjian?

I smell double standards at play….

Free man

1. The Iraqi government does not support Syria militarily.
2. Syria is entitled and should receive assistance from its allies.
3. Every jiadist presence in Syria is a disaster.
I hope I was clear enough.

Ronald

1 : The war in Syria has from the start been the US using Wahhabi Sunni’s as in Al Qaeda , and ISIS as boots on the ground against the sovereign nation of Syria . Assad , both father and son , do not follow orders , eg.. from the bankers , no debt owed to the IMF . You are right , in that Saudi Arabia exports the Wahhabi Sunni ideology , and funds them .
2: Sovereign ,( meaning independent) , nations demand respect from other nations . Respect is given by Iran , because in 1953 the US / CIA pulled a coup in Iran and installed the Shah . Iranians know first hand American interference in their government , and so are motivated to help Syria defend itself from hundreds of thousand Saudi and Tunisian (80 %) merciless jihadists . Syria’s main ally is Russia , but it does not follow orders from even Russia .
3: International law is built upon the foundation of Respect for the borders of all nations . Turkey has transgressed in its invasion of northern Syria . Now the FSA with embedded US and UK forces has transgressed in south Syria by claiming Al Taraf , and attacking the army that has the right to be on their own territory .
4. When you begin to live up to your name “Free man” you will become sovereign or self ruling , yourself . When you have enough self respect to be Free , you will have no problem respecting the right of others to be Free likewise . Good Luck to you .

Free man

1. I do not believe in conspiracy theories. The US does not support the organization that has carried out the 9/11 attacks, neither the Saudi government. But the Saudi policy has increased Wahhabi fanaticism, and in fact I do not see much difference between Al Qaeda and the rebel organizations supported by Saudi Arabia.
2. Assad can’t really refuse Iran or Russia.
3. Syria is currently a dysfunctional country and everyone is exploiting it.
4. When did I write against freedom of Syria / Syrians or others?

Gary Sellars

I beg to differ. The US most certainly DOES support AQ, at least clandestinally for specific goals, like destablising Syria and forcing regime change. If the Syrian state should collapse and a patchwork of Wahabbi jihadi groups take over, the US then switches and uses the presence of AQ as an excuse to “take an interest” in the aftermath and work towards empowering their own chosen satraps.

It academic in any case as the Syrian state will triumph and the Wahabbists will be utterly defeated.

lifeattheendofempire

They dont even consider Nusra of Ahrar al Sham to be terrorists, but they do consider the YPG to be terrorists and still support them anyway.

All it takes to fool the whole of the US, is to use “free” or “democratic” in the title of jihadi terror groups, and yanks think “yay, they are the “good guys”

They would like to destroy Europe and rape your women, whereas Assad, for all his sins, is the only bastion of secularism in the middle east.

888mladen .

Wahhabis are just a branch Vatican-US are root.

Ronald

1: Conspiracy theories about 9/11 , are not the topic of discussion . The US created Al Qaeda , under Bush Sr. with the Saudi royal family ( Osama bin Laden) . This is not a ” conspiracy theory”, but documented history (by US government documents) . This happened back in the 80’s , the US used Al Qaeda to act as its army , in order to evict Russia from Afghanistan. After Bush Jr’s 2003 invasion of Iraq , Al Qaeda name changed into ISIS. In 2011, the US funded and supported Al Nusra , whom they called “moderate rebels”. Again , no theory , history supported by US government documents .

2 : Assad did ask Russia and Iran for help in repelling Saudi sponsored jihadists . Russia and Iran did not ask to join the fray .

3 : Syria is a nation under attack from the US via their proxy armies . However ,last summer , they sent “special forces” into northern Syria under the pretext of supporting the Kurds in “their war against ISIS”. Now they have again sent in “special forces” from Jordan , to support their new proxy FSA . And backed them yesterday , by striking SAA with the USAF .

4 : When you said ” do not expect Russia to implement Iran’s interest in Syria” ( control of the border ). “Let her deal with the United States” . Divide and conquer is the “American way” . So your suggestion that Iran has a goal that is separate from Russia’s and Syria’s , is to fall into that American mind set . My apologies if I was too much last round .

Free man

1. I believe that the United States doesn’t support radical Sunni extremists, after many mistakes they made on the subject in the past.
2. Russia and Iran are so invested in Syria that they could not allow the overthrow of the current regime.
3. I think it’s more a global and cynical game of the United States / Russia / Iran / Turkey ….
4. When I read about the convoys of Shiite militias who receive their instructions from Tehran, I understand that there is an Iranian interest here. It is also clear to me that Russia and Iran have additional interests in the region that sometimes seem to contradict the Syrian interest.
I try to be free from prejudices / common perceptions, etc.
Maybe I was not clear (-:

lifeattheendofempire

Dont try to explain history to an american, its like kryptonite. History is what happened in the last 24 hours, thats all that counts.

1. The US ABSOLUTELY supports Al Quaeda, are you so easily fooled by re-branding? Nusra are the same organisation that bombed the twin towers, FACT. The US gave 500 million to jihadi groups FACT.

2. A bit like Britain’s relationship with the US

3. Sure, so that makes it ok for the US to illegally invade, why not, it does it in every country in the middle east except: Saudi Arabia and Israel, who supports terror? There would be no war, if it were not for proxies, and Turkey and SAUD fired first. The Russians only entered the war in late 2015. The US have always had Syria on its hitlist, and wont ever stop until they have done to that country what they have done to the entire middle east.

lifeattheendofempire

1. there is no difference between the terrorist groups which espouse saudi arabias interpretation of islam, they are all terrorists – lets not fall for that mujaheddin nonsense again, its ISIS with “freedom” or “democracy” in their branding

2. Wrong. Iran support Syria but its clear that Assad goes of script when he pleases, if the Russians cant restrain him I dont see how Iran can, and they wont stop supporting him, so who has the upper hand?

3. The US does not even act according to US law, Congress has not declared war, neither has the British parliament, yet Syria is a freefire zone against the SAA. They are the ones who invaded Syria, a sovereign nation no matter if the leader is an autocrat, its the state that matters, and that must prevail over another Saudi backed theocracy in Syria. The US bombs civilians every week, hundreds dead, but do they show you that on CNN? No, so you only get to see Russia hitting the same hospital 7 times, yet when you look at it on social media, its still standing. When the US does it, its just a whoopsy daisy, in spite of their supposedly accurate technology.

Ronald

Russia is protected by the “Shia Cresent” , if it is cut by an American imposed “Eastern Syria State” , Lebanon and Syria would have no Iraqi or Iranian backing . Now that ISIS is about done in Iraq , the US does not want those PMU’s of Iraq helping the SAA , as it would mean the defeat of their proxies , by whatever name . It is clear that after crushing Syria , Lebanon is easy . Iran , next target , and last but not least Russia .

888mladen .

“The United States is much more important to Russia than Iran / Hezbollah” In what way? What is RU hoping to gain from US? You’ve described correctly how RU oligarchs feel about US. However Third Reich was also very important to Soviet RU just before the WWII broke because Nazi Germany was the biggest single importer of their grain. “Thinking that RU depends on US for its existence” is that thinking outside the box or perhaps inside the box? It’s true that RU must have known about US intentions but then its support for Syrian government is nothing more than hypocrisy.

Free man

The United States is the most powerful country (economic, military, scientific …), the most influential in the world. Russia could not have hoped for a better president for her than Trump. So it is not realistic to ask Russia to fight for the interests of someone else. Especially in light of the fact that there are many opponents in Russia for the creation of the “Shiite Crescent”.

888mladen .

Rusia is the richest country in the world with natural resources. The United States is the most powerful country in the world thanks to KSA and Qatari oil. US power and might hinges on dollar and dollar hinges on what I’ve already said KSA and Qatari oil. Saddam decided to sell his oil in other currencies and he was gone. It wasn’t good for keeping FRB money printing machine running neither it was good for US might. So what is US might based on? Worthless piece of paper about which might the whole world has been mesmerized. Just like the power of Vatican hinges on Eucharist, a worthless piece of baked flower in the shape of Sun disk, which all members are supposed to believe to be a real human body of Christ. So lets wrap it up. US might is as worthy as the piece of paper its dollar has been printed on including ink.

Free man

Look at it differently. What will happen to Russia if it breaks ties with the US, as opposed to what will happen to Russia if it breaks off its ties with Iran?
To say that the US economy depends on Saudi or Qatari oil is unrealistic. The United States has the largest, most advanced and diversified economy in the world. You can hate it but it’s a fact.

888mladen .

Give me all the natural resources and I’ll give you all the dollars and let me enjoy my resources and you enjoy your dollars and make America great again.

888mladen .

More than half of your factories have been dismantled and shipped to China, Mexico at ctr.
You have more than 30 mil people unemployed and your infrastructure is in shambles while majority of the population cannot afford medical aid. And then your mighty dollar story. What is your national debt? It will soon be in quadrillions.
Only industry which has been left is banking, military industrial complex and energy sector which is rather big oil. How diversified is that?

Free man

I’m not an American citizen and I don’t wish to be.
It is a mistake to underestimate the United States, Russia apparently doesn’t do that.

Brad Isherwood

For sure the US gov and Jeckyl Island Federal Reserve will need distractions
Now and in the future as US dollars return home and inflation rages.
Canada is having its housing bubble pop,…Canadians have highest debt per
Capita in the world – 164$/100..
US is maxed out in debt …so the consumer economy is busted. ..and soon credit will
Be withdrawn.
US corporations are going bankrupt, …Store chains are closing hundreds of stores.
Wallstreet Ponzi is not real economy,…at some point the leaning wall falls over and
Derivatives kick in to annihilate Hedge funds and mortgage lenders.

The Fed can keep printing and kicking it down the road.
Yet the Fed has no mercy for America, …the 20 Trillion and interest will be paid.

FDR raided America’s gold …lied about war like Wilson Of WW 1.
America did war to create debt the Public would patriot accept. ….sheeple!
The Masonic future game is World War…. to the point of exhaustion.

Sheeple will cheer as they go to their certain doom.

lifeattheendofempire

Its not a matter of hate, Russia does virtually no trade with the US, which is why sanctions are hitting the EU more that the US.

It is not unrealistic to say that the US depends on cheap saudi oil are you insane? Thats a denial of reality, its the whole basis for your economy, the fact that you can print money with very little inflation, is because oil trades are done in dollar denominations. Without this single economic hinge, your entire economy would not have boomed as it did in the last century.

You really think texas could fuel an industrial revolution with its oil, or shale oil? Gas prices would be astronomical.

lifeattheendofempire

Russia supports the Shia crescent because it is a bastion against SAUD filth, and provides a land path to their base in Tartus and khmeimim.

America has the leader it deserves. Russians have no sympathy after they had yeltsin forced on them by the US, but their memories are like that of stoned goldfish.

lifeattheendofempire

Why are you going back to WW2, shall we open the books on US deals with barbaric regimes?

VeeNarian (Yerevan)

I agree with you. The Russians should not deal with the invading US/UK and NATO special forces in Syria directly. There should be an element of deniability, just as in Vietnam. The Russians should arm the Iranian, Syrian, Iraqi, Hezbollah group so they are able to to teach the violent US/UK/NATO gangsters a lesson they will never forget, and throw them out of Syria.
I wonder how many deaths it will take for the US/EU/UK/NATO gang to learn that they should not destabilise and invade countries like Syria???

lifeattheendofempire

Right, on CNN – you didnt read it. Therefore it must be true, or, they flew low expecting the Syrian proxies to understand a standard US manoeuvre, but not being american, they did not get the message, so they were bombed.

The US has nothing to offer Russia, and if it were so important why is Russia proceeding entirely without any cooperation with the US coalition of the unwilling sheep?

Russia will implement Russias interests, which is not to balkanise as the US do to all of their enemies, its their only play in every war since the end of ww2, partition, like Korea, Vietnam, Yugoslavia.

Keep “reading” CNN

Bob

The US will seriously attempt to stop SAA moving out eastwards.

As SAA movement eastwards would prevent the SFA in north-east and the Jordanian based militants in south-east from ever moving toward central-east, and occupying all of eastern Syria – thus under US full proxy control.
SAA has stabilized much of west Syria, despite the ongoing pockets and clearing to be done, and the conflict is strategically all about the east now and the US’ moves to create an eastern corridor for partition.
The Syrians are compromised viv-a-vis the US’ military strength, in that, paradoxically any Syrian action against USAF aircraft assaulting SAA, could be easily used as pretext for further US aggression, so expect US to continue to play a very dirty game.

lifeattheendofempire

What other game do they have?

They can expect increased arms supplies to Libyan, Yemeni, Syrian and Afghan opposition, and even the kurds in Rojava. They can ship surface to air missiles to Syria, or just let the US take the east and bog them down in a low level conflict, sniping, booby trapping, until US morale is destroyed. The Iraqis will never agree to a US salafi sharia state in eastern syria, which would be surrounded except from the south.

Its another game plan – with no objective except the next days goals, ending in another 15 year conflict. The Shia will never allow the US, British, Jordanian terror alliance to occupy sovereign Syrian soil, without giving them 100 years of the viet cong playbook.

Bob

The US Neo-Cons behind all this chaos do not think in terms of what is realistic and acceptable to the actual Arab populations of middle east. They think only in terms of their objectives – Israeli security and US economic security.
The idea that Iraq could be invaded and immediately turned into a compliant western vassal ‘democracy’ had no basis in actual research or reality. It was simply what the Neo-Cons wanted and in their group-think isolation thought could simply occur by US force. After a sectarian bloodbath, a long suppressed Shia power base came to power in Iraq shifting it away from US and opening its doors to Iran.
Since then, sectarianism and Balkanization have been the new Neo-Con strategy, openly advocating for support of Sunni militant oppositions in secular Arab republics. But again they take no account of the wishes of the actual populations. Syrian militants are actually a small percentage of population – mostly rural conservative Sunni’s – and at this stage in the conflict foreign nationals on jihad make anywhere up to 40% of the militant’s casualties as listed by the militant factions on their own social media.
But the US Neo-Cons won’t give up until the bitter end – they are deeply invested in their fantasies and have dragged US with them.

Justin Ryan

I agree but guess what…. Russia just sent Russian para troopers to southern Syria!

There is an agreement that US US coalition forces DO NOT kill and Russian forces and that Russian forces do not do the same!
Its seems to be acceptable that kurds, syrians, iraqi’s, hezbolla etc etc can be killed (then complained about) but if russian or US soldiers are killed by Russian or US forces, this would create a huge stalemate!

So what this means is Russia is sending its troops there as “advisors” but they are also acting as a protective umberalla for syrian and iraqi forces to link up at the border!

You can bet ur ass Israel is pissed off because this border link up allows Iran to transit military hardware over land to syria and lebanon!

Therefore expect MORE “terror attacks” in russia as they have done recently in st petersburg. This will be a warning to Russia but it seems Russia doesnt give a fuck!
I think this border link up will be a huge deal!

Everntually this war and its perceived ending will continue as a war between kurds and the syrian army! Kurds will be the US attempt to balkanise syria to run gas pipes from
Qatar! Syrian army and russia will attemot to keep it as whole! And u can bet that in this case, Turkey will help Russia and Syria!

Therefore we will have Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Russia
VS
Kurds, USA, UK, Israel, Saudi arabia, Jordan.

Its gonna be interesting!

This is why we are starting to see certain “rebel forces” fighting each other!

Turkey is starting to change sides.

888mladen .

Prostitutes have partners in everyone who pays for their services.

lifeattheendofempire

They are determined to pursue a strategy of bases which attract low level insurgencies which can last indefinitely, or erupt into another fallujah. Russia depends on asymmetric tactics, if they get hit in Syria, or their ally is hit, they can increase support to rojava kurds, or supply Syria and Iran with more high tech gear to launch at US bases.

There is no point in a Russia US alliance, it can never happen, short of another Nazi global threat. ISIS is a global threat, but the US created and supported them, ISIS have half a billion in US equipment which the US takes no responsibility for.

Joe Doe

Will Vlad do anything about the americans. There need to be air strike on the american and english special forces in that area

Joe Doe

There a need for some action

Gary Sellars

Russian responses will be assymetrical, as they always are. Probably increased support for SAA operations in rolling back the terrorists, and out of sight from our fktard liberal MSM.

Attack the Yanks and you only give the Pentagram an excuse to holler about Ruskies under the beds. Play it smart and keep quiet, and boost your efforts behnd the scenes.

Solomon Krupacek

shot 1 shot from gun

perfectly assymetric

Gary Sellars

Simplistic tosh from a Banderite supporter of terrorism. Simple-minded stupidity is why the US always LOSES every war in the long run, they simply cannot fathom any other way thanblowing stuff up in a childish temper tantrum over not getting their way…

WAAAHHHHH!!!! /throws toys from cot

Solomon Krupacek

so le mi

Cycloben

The terrorists at Tanf needs to be pulverized.

Joe Doe

Russia needs do more to protect Syria. Looks to me like Vlad shows again weaknesses. The only way to stop Bully is to give the bully blue eye.

Ace

Look at it through Russian eyes.

They must do enough but not so much as to give the lunatics and children in the US elite unnecessary ammunition for escalation. The crushing expense of US wars can’t continue and the American public is not in a mood for more war. Lavrov is reasonable and a gentleman and must beware of Trump’s and Tillerson’s arrogance.

Concrete Mike

This airstrike was apparently in a de escalation zone, did Said AirPlane enter syrian airspace or was it à coward Israël style attack from thé other Side of the border..regardless this is another provocation, they are begging to get shot down and start ww3.
Let’s hope cooler heads prevail, because this is stupid.

XRGRSF

Then let’s get it on. WW 3 is going to be fought the question is only when, and where. The economic phase of WW 3 began in 1991. The hot phase needs to begin soon. One major tactical defeat of the US, and it will all be over, and it wont involve nukes.

Steve Golf

It was an old USA terrorist training camp; not a new Trump de-escalation zone. Therefore it still acts like what it is.

Alex

Shoot one down already, what can they do lol

QUIN TÕNIS

What can SAA do? Nothing just like Israel is allowed to.

Alex

Russia should shoot one down, let start a WW3 already while i’m still young … got a lot of score to settle with the west

SAA??

We can act on emotions and do some damage, but it’ll fire back. So, we act on intelligence and reasoning before responding. The US will regret the day they supported terrorism because it will come back to where it was funded from. The impact already started in Western states and it’ll get worse if they keep funding them.

Drinas

And Russia just allows this to happen time and time again..It is becoming impossible to support Russia’s (in)actions these days. Seems the Kremlin in its infinite wisdom has accepted a partition of Syria.
So yeah, fuck the US coalition and Trump but also a big fuck you to the Kremlin and its petty policies.

Derapage

Putin is not stupid

1. United States: 611.2 / 3.3
2. China 215.7 / 1.9
3. Russia 69.2/ 5.3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

Even Saudi Arabia could give a twist to Russia

Drinas

About 65-70% of US budget goes to logistic support of its bases, waging wars across the globe etc. Putin is not stupid, just part of the russian elite that believe they can “fit in” and be accepted by the West.
Again played for a fool by the US establishment

Solomon Krupacek

russian disease :DDDD

Solomon Krupacek

but in september 2015 had big, big mouth. i have saved his speeches ;)

Brad Isherwood

http://www.conspiracyschool.com/blog/donald-trump-chabad-lubavitch-and-oligarchs

US will go after Hezbollah, IRGC and PMU,….Putin will do nothing.
It’s part of the Masonic game .
Putin and Lavrov do their Kabuki theatre part.

Now who could have power and leverage over Putin/Russia? .
Could it maybe be House of Rothschild?

888mladen .

Thank you Brad. He has been controlled by Vatican via Synagogue of Satan. And yes it’s common knowledge that Rothschild’s have been ever since Vatican bankers.

Brad Isherwood

https://spingolaspeaks.net/2017/04/29/james-perloff-2/
Excellent interview on Trump,Zionist,NWO,Rothschild.
James pointed out the Chabad Lubavitch movement and Mossad,
Jared Kushner .
The destruction of the Dome of the Rock Mosque and the rebuilding of the
Temple.
The Lubavitch around Putin also push the same vision fate.
The Masonic/Illuminati envision a slaughter of life/Sacrifice before Lucifer
Is revealed to the World.
Some scoff at such considerations, ….yet past wars are keyed to Occult numeric dates
Starting and ending on……with horrific loss of life.

888mladen .

Did you notice Trump’s tour itinerary. First to Riyadh then to Zionist entity and the last stop Vatican.

Brad Isherwood

Google image/Trump wailing wall.
The page is filled with US political trash performing for the Talmudic snake
worshippers.
Several images have the same creepy looking Chabad Lubavitch Rebbi,Yet with different presidents.

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/09/23/us/0923-popeliveblog-benedict/0923-popeliveblog-benedict-tmagArticle.jpg
Panzer Pope at the Whitehouse.
Noticed the Papal Flags and US/US military orders flag dominate the show.
The US military is The Pope’s Legions.
Interesting that the visit in 2008 marked Adolf Hitlery birthday
Occult Blood sacrifice to the beast /Fire sacrifice required on April 19th
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienciareal/cienciareal20.htm
Trump’s visit to the Vatican and symbolism messages
Vigilant Citizen website publish on recent months hollywood/media symbols
For the Occult via the covering of one eye.
This has been large volume activity …that and Katy Perry bon Appétit,
Which is truly disturbing….Legacy from the 1972 Rothschild party .

Brad Isherwood

https://vigilantcitizen.com/
Katy Perry – Truly disturbing symbolism. https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienciareal/cienciareal20.htm
2. Spring Equinox – 13 weeks – Minor sabbath but does require human sacrifice

a. March 21-22 – Goddess Ostara – Note: Easter is the first Sunday after the first new moon after Ostara. March 21 is one of the Illuminati’s Human Sacrifice Nights 
b. April 1 – All Fool’s Day, precisely 13 weeks since New Year’s Day!
c. April 19 – May 1 – Blood Sacrifice To The Beast. Fire sacrifice is required on April 19.
d. April 30 – May 1 – Beltaine Festival, also called Walpurgis Night. This is the highest day on the Druidic Witch’s Calendar. May 1 is the Illuminati’s second most sacred holiday. Human sacrifice is required

This Equinox and the covering of one eye/The All seeing Eye symbolism
Trump is fully revealed**…. for who he serves.

Tudor Miron

Drinas… you’re a nice guy and seem to care about humanity. While blaming Russia for not doing enough – what did you do to stop that madness? Criticizing is easy. Give an example – who’s doing more than Russia does?

NeoLeo

Exactly. If this part is true “This was despite #Russian attempts to dissuade pro-regime movement towards At Tanf” and yet they ignored Russian advices and continue their advance (not even bother to bring more aa defenses but one Shilka!), it’s not really the Russian problem, Russians are not in Syria to unconditionally defend every pro-government soldier.

Solomon Krupacek

this is russian problem. russia betrayed syria, simply sold out. syria should close russian naval base.

Gary Sellars

fuck off… liar ukropi dirtbag….

russia betrayed Syria…? close naval base? ROFL!!! the congenital inbred idiot amongst us speaks his mind and confirms his empty-headed nature…

seriously, is anyone else getting a little fed up of this squealing jew russophobe propagandist?

Solomon Krupacek

hooooooo …..

Gary Sellars

The usual response of a cerebrally-challenged clown and Yankistani arselicker. Should you get back to being submisisve to your Hillary doll?

Solomon Krupacek

gay sellars

Gary Sellars

Is that the best you have? Projecting your own sexual depravity onto normal people?

Solomon Krupacek

tralalalala

Gary Sellars

Maaate… you are SO out of your depth…. Go back to your sheltered workshop, its time for your meds.

NeoLeo

Lol that was brutal, but funny… poor little Solomon :D

Gary Sellars

Don’t feel sorry for the little worm. He should never have accepted Uh’murikkkan cock up his candy arse….

PZIVJ

Gary, you should be flagged for your vile mouth.

Gary Sellars

meh… People make their choices… they choose to be a spiteful, hate-filled Russophobe and make endless insulting and disparaging remarks then they need to grow a thick skin. I have no time for such hateful small people.

PZIVJ

Solomon does have a thick skin, and enjoys pissing you off I think.
But sometimes I get tired of the BS that just goes on, and on, and on.
He got under your skin, this is what he lives for.

Darius

please don’t cry

888mladen .

Perfectly right.

PZIVJ

This is an English website, Please re phrase your response !

Solomon Krupacek

he is russian communist. this is for him.

otherwise, i read already spanish texts here.

Gary Sellars

You think I’m Russian? Poor stupid Ukropi-Jew arse bandit… I have no idea what that says, and i don’t care one iota.

Solomon Krupacek

:DDDDDDDDDDDDD then why do you comment me, asshole? :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Gary Sellars

Because you are Russophobe idiot and a terror sympathiser. Russia is fighting the good fight, but clowns like you spend all of your time running down a nation that is fighting Saudi/GCC-backed Wahabbi terrorism and the extermination of religious minorities, while openly repeating the dastardly lies of Imperial Uh’Murikkka and its Lords of Globalism, who want nothing short of total control of the world, its resources and its people, abd who are willing to MURDER individuals and entire nations that refuise to bend knee to them…

Yes, THAT is why I comment so on you posts.

zman

And what the hell would that accomplish? Christ, do you even know what comes off that keyboard? You’re a real military expert, dump the only real air support…that’s real good.

888mladen .

Could you tell us what’s the point of fighting if the end game will be the same anyway and what has been accomplished by families of those who died in the conflict? If I was in charge of US and RU military industrial complex I would have agreed with you that a lot has been accomplished so far and there is still more to come of cause at the cost of expendable human lives. So thinking that RU move to ME will make Syrian people the ultimate beneficiaries is naive to say the least.

888mladen .

Russians are not in Syria to unconditionally defend every pro-government soldier, You may be right in saying that because that’s an impossibility. However what would be the real reason RU is in Syria since we’ve been now told what it is not? Partitioning of Syria perhaps?

888mladen .

What Hezbolah and NDF did has been strategically sound. The Damascus Baghdad highway is the main artery in the ME and taking control of it is of the utmost importance for protection of the territorial integrity of the Syrian state.
What have RU oligarchs found wrong with it?
.

Xanatos

There is no indigenous population here. This is a border outpost in the desert, next to several Syrian oil fields. By claiming this territory for rebels who were trucked in just two days ago, the us air force is not protecting anyone. They are just grabbing oil. this invasion of Syria was never authorised by a congressional declaration of war.

dutchnational

This is imo correct. The US would have done better to not get involved in this part of the fight. They should, imo, concentrate on the SDF and only support and give weapons to those who are part of the SDF. Not to a group with a few trucks of islamo fascists in an empty desert.

Bill Wilson

There’s no oil fields out there. There isn’t jack shit out there except for some salt pans and the pipeline that the al-Tanf road follows.

PZIVJ

Maybe rich in minerals and phosphates. :)
You know that Al Tanf protects the desert roads heading NE along the border (the coalition will put up a fight for it). I am surprised that T2 has not been taken by FSA yet (maybe tomorrow). Good to see FSA put in it’s place, they will have to pull back from their more northern areas.

Bill Wilson

There’s phosphate deposits SW of Palmyra then some further south in Jordan. Other than that, the entire region is worthless desert though does have suitable terrain for running pipelines thru. The road between al-Tanf and T2 may follow a pipeline running between the two or is just there for maintenance crews.

dutchnational

For the coalition to bomb the SAA in support of islamo fascist rebels, that does not seem to me a smart decision.

Did they ever hear of a telephone call to, say, Russia?

Hrky75

SAA advance on their own territory potentially threatened US forces operating there in breach of international law and UN charter, so an air strike on Syrians was called in. Perfectly logical. I bet western MSM wouldn’t be able to find any problem with this statement.

Solomon Krupacek

shut up! 3 weeks ago you wrote, SAA does not need o go in that area. Now bw queiet and listen only to the wiser men.

Concrete Mike

Ignore you got it

Gary Sellars

fuck off idiot… Syrian government forces has EVERY RIGHT to establish control over ALL AREAS of Syrias internationally recognised territory. The US has NO RIGHT to support Wahabbi terrorist forces, even if they wish to pretend that they are do-gooder pro-democracy activists and uni-multi-sex bathroom advocates….

I’m going to enjoy your fuktad liberal tears as the Jihadis are slowly ground down into dogmeat paste. If you save them in a bottle, I’ll gladly buy them from you and you can use the money for the psychological rehab you will require once your feitd dreams are crushed into the desert sands….

Solomon Krupacek

child, go home!

Gary Sellars

fuck you buddy… You’re a terrorist supporter and a licker of Uh’Murikkkan arse… probably some east European jew phaggot who is upset that Russia wasn’t broken up after the Cold War, and didn’t allow the jewish oligarchs to loot the country and establish Zio rule over the Russian “peasantry”.

Solomon Krupacek

gave you mommy already meal?

Gary Sellars

That doesn’t even make sense…. Listen up pal, this is an English language forum. You need to find a better Ukrainian-to-English translator site or else just go away and re-engage your banderite buttchums in an endless circle-jerk.

Solomon Krupacek

hm, hm

XRGRSF

Gary, don’t bother with Soloman. Mr. Krupacek is the forum’s harmless, but annoying insect.

Hrky75

Moron, 2 weeks ago I wrote that 4 deconfliction zones will be beneficial for SAA to regroup and concentrate their forces towards Deir Ezzor and Iraqi border. I also wrote that since Syrian desert is not part of 4 zones SAA and RuAF will be able to clear it of any uninvited guests. Your comment was that I’m just trumpeting the “official Kremlin propaganda”. You’re neither wise nor educated – start writing in proper English or just eff off from here.

XRGRSF

The US, and it’s vassals know that Russia will allow them to do whatever they want whenever they want. I don’t understand why this is even news.

Rodney Loder

This is the inevitable consequence that comes from signing up to a fake existential reality presented by jews and supported by Christians, you can work within it Angola did and came out the other side after 30 years of perpetual war.
Maybe that was only because the focus moved back to the ME early this century, the real threat to US dominance is China but Cousin Un has put paid to that offensive.
Probably not much can be done at the moment until Putin really feels threatened, Trump’s impeachment holds out some hope for putting the wind up Putin, it’s not really Syria they want it’s China first and Russia second, if I as the Messiah has ever supported israel, China and Russia would be Bulcanised now.

Attrition47

Fuck off you ignorant antisemitic tosser, there is nothing Jewish about zionism.

Rodney Loder

That is an opinion of very few people, rather it’s an excuse to support the hierarchy already in place, and also your saying that there is no truth to Religion.
Assimilationists jews had a better more factual agenda for jews coming back to the Holy Lands, but it wasn’t implemented last century, because of what Allah did, also what I say is proven by their attempting to do so when led by a false prophet Sabbatai Sevi ( ended up a Muslim with many wives donated by the Sultan 17thC), the only Messiah attempt after Simon bar Goria (executed 71AD).
Sabbatai had a neurosurgical condition that was seized upon by a determined exploiter Rabbi Nathan exactly the same way that the homosexual Sid Loder, the Masonic Lodge, Christianity, and the Government’s of Australia, New Zealand and Great Britain seized upon my abnormality (telepathic expressionism) and exploited me as a Messiah Event on behalf of israel which destroyed secularism in the ME. and the Soviet Union.

Douglas Houck

I’m glad nobody here has the keys to the nuclear forces! :-)

Not sure what happened but at 10PM GMT there is nothing about this attack on SANA, Sputnik, TASS but it is on various western media outlets. It is being pitched as a warning strike against incursion of the safe-zones. May need to take a deep breath and see what is said about it tomorrow. Too many versions of what happened. Doesn’t appear to have much to do with some larger effort. Stay tuned.

PZIVJ

Appears that SAA advanced 35 KM down the road towards Al Tanf, and the coalition started to get very worried. If FSA wishes to pull back and give up some areas to SAA to de-conflict, this would be positive. E Sweida has not been declared a “save zone” from what I read.

Douglas Houck

Thanks for the information. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I’m always wary when there is limited information.

From the western press it was stated that they used the established hot line to contain the incident. Since the Syrians aren’t talking about it, I’m assuming it was some confusion on one or both sides to what ever is going on.

Again, thanks.

Attrition47

Come the day when the Syrians and Russians start shooting these fuckers out of the sky.

Solomon Krupacek

This is one new PC game?

watcher12

Why no Russian or Syrian air cover for the convoy?

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watcher12
“…Why no Russian or Syrian air cover for the convoy?…”

That’s a very good question.

Syria needs a proper Command and Control Center with a Battleplan to prevent these terrible and sad of losses.

jj

Syria needs to at least TRY to use some anti-aircraft defense. It doesn’t seem to be even trying.

Stephen

Syrian army has 65 batteries of robust surface to air missile systems and recently they have tested some new SAM missiles but why they don’t want to use that?

NeoLeo

Imagine the US media hysterical response if Syrians shot down one (or more) US planes…. they are already schizophrenic…. now imagine McCain, his wife Lindsey Graham, Hillary and her democrat puppets, all of them will go full berserk – ‘we want blood, Trump give us Assad’s blood, or we’ll have your blood instead!’

Gary Sellars

“McCain, his wife Lindsey Graham”

Oh now, be honest…. Johnny is only the insertive partner on Monday-Wed. Lindsay gets to punch the freckle Fri-Sun, and the lads alternative every second Thurs.

don’t worry.. there is plenty of blood to satisfy all and sundry….

NeoLeo

Lindsey’s limp ‘clitty’ is not functional since 1980s, but she has a strap-on dildo instead….
Old Johnny McStain is more active tho, he doesn’t even need viagra – just show him photos of dead children from Vietnam.

Gary Sellars

Lindsay gets him going with his impression of a saigon rent boy… “Hey GI, you wan’ sucky.-sucky? Me love your cock long time…”

Sticking a photo of a 5 year-olds face onto the back of Lindays head?… nah, thats just plain wrong, but Johnny just can’t stop himself….

PZIVJ

I find both of you to be way to vulgar and insulting.
@NeoLeo

Gary Sellars

They are getting what they deserve for being Russophobes and terror-apologists…

PZIVJ

This discussion is not about co#ks and dild$$s.
@NeoLoe
Appears that SAA advanced 35 KM down the road towards Al Tanf, and the coalition started to get very worried. If FSA wishes to pull back and give up some areas to SAA to de-conflict, this would be positive. E Sweida province has not been declared a “save zone” from what I read.

Gary Sellars

If East Sweida is not a “de-confliction” zone, the SAA and its allies have every right to engage terrorists there. The FSA are just a branding exercise, a bucket in which to put a myriad of disparate terror groups and apply a white wash to conceal their true foreign Wahabbist nature.

The SAA should roll on and exterminate these terrorists. They can either run home to Jordan, or stay and plan what to do with their 40 goats in paradise.

RamboDave

We will see what happens when Russian attack helicopters and air
defense systems and the SAA are airlifted into that al-Tanf boarder
crossing. Keep in mind that Iraqi Army and friendly Iraqi Shiite
militias recently recaptured the Iraqi side of that boarder crossing. All they need to do is airlift the SAA into the Iraqi boarder side and then drive back across the boarder with “technicals” provided by their new Iraqi militia friends. Right now they are just 40 miles away.

With this rational, the US can claim the entire Eastern half of Syria for the rebels, merely by claiming they have secret bases located wherever the SAA might want to go.

PZIVJ

I have not heard news that PMU is this far south. But hopefully yes.
This will make sure that FSA is under pressure (the Shites have no love for FSA Jihadist skum bags).

NeoLeo

I find your misspelling of my nickname insulting (NeoLoe)! just kidding lol…. a little bit of humor never hurts anybody, but psychopaths like Mccain and Graham do hurt millions, they deserve to be mocked AND insulted; I guess it was enough for today…… anyway, we’ll see about Al Tanf, I doubt so-called FSA will pull back (actually I’m sure they won’t).
I don’t even call them FSA: they are not ‘Free’, they are not ‘Syrian’ and they are not an ‘Army’.

NeoLeo

You do? Really? Well soooorry, try to find your safe space or something…

NeoLeo

Ah yes , good ol’ times in Saigon, before he crashed his 4th plane and was captured by Vietcong… then he spent the rest of the war in their toilet, far away from his Lindsey. All Putin’s fault ya know…

PZIVJ

You should have deleted this reply instead of the one below.

NeoLeo

I didn’t delete anything, nor I intend to delete anything. Probably some oversensitive twat flagged it, I have no idea why, and he can flag this one as well, I don’t really care. But you should stop act like a moderator, because you are not one. There is an option to block someone, so I recommend you to that if something bothers you so much.

Bill Wilson

LOL! I knew something like this was bound to happen! What occurred here was a militia aligned with the SAA following the instructions of their strongman commander instead of the directives issued from Damascus. Anyone with a lick of political sense knows that there WILL BE a power struggle inside Syria to replace Assad since the EU and US won’t lift their trade sanctions unless Bashar is gone. This nitwit strongman felt he could capitalize on Syrian’s resentment over US assistance to the FSA by attacking them even though Assad, the Russians and US have been working together to defeat ISIS. He obviously ignore warnings from Assad and the Russian to halt his fool adventure and wound up having his expensive equipment get wasted by a single Jordanian jet fighter.