U.S. forces in northern Syria
U.S. State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert announced on March 22 that U.S. forces are not going to leave Manbij and no agreement had been reached between Washington and Ankara on the issue.
The US-Turkish relations over US support to the YPG and especially, the YPG presence in Manbij, remain complicated. Top Turkish officials, including the country’s president, have repeatedly claimed that Ankara is aiming to wipe out the YPG of Manbij and its countryside by military or diplomatic means. A spokesman for the Turkish president has even calimed that Turkey and the US have reached an agreement to establish a no-YPG “security zone” in the area. However, all these claims and threats have been rejected by the US.
The YPG is a core of the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), a brand created to hide US support to the YPG from the public audience. On the same time, Turkey sees the YPG as a terrorist group, a local branch of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK).
Meanwhile, the Turkish media speculates that Turkey is preparing to launch a military operation against the PKK in the area of Sinjar Mount in northern Iraq. The advance will allegedly be entitled Operation Tigris Shield and may take place after Iraqi elections set for May 12.
That’s because US are not PU$$IES like Russians and do not sell themselves to Turkish PIG Erdogan sultan like Puttin the PROSTITUTE.
In frustration you can post any bs. Sorry.
The US sold itself to Israel a long time ago so you cant talk about Putin!!
Aaah, but they will, some of them in body bags.
Time to roast some dirty Turksih PIGS over napalm fire.
Your post indicate that your brain is not working properly. You are suffering from depression and anxiety. Quickly consult with a Psychiatrist.
Very very true, dude. Or He’s just an ignorant, you mean? Agreed
Erdogan, Assad and Putin must bomb US targets in Syria. But, they are so pussies that they fear to defend themselfs.
You sound constantly in a suicidal idiotic mode, that in a strange way, you would like others to follow it, rather than yourself.
is all this stupidity, you present us here, come after a lot of practice, or natural to you? Personally I think, it comes to you, natural.
Suicidal idiotic mode is the only thing that USA understands. Attack and I’m ready to end the world. Cheers.
So your suggestion is to all behave and act as lunatics on a suicidal mission rather than use our brains and power and eliminate the threat with out using your spastic way of thinking and acting.
I am not an expert but I can assure you, that are infected, with the hollywood education virus.
My suggestion is that if USA wants war, let’s go for war and attack USA with 1000 nuclear warheads. To begin with, target every US military bases in the middle east. After that, USA will be more eager to negociate.
But, if USA wants war, the targeted country has the right to respond and end life in USA.
When you trying to save the world population kid and is the only way to accept what you say and answer it, is that you are a kid and you have a lot of hate for people you dont know, how they think or what side they are on.
Your suggestions always have to do with either suicide or mass genocide. You coming too strong forward as an Americanized hollywood educated person who grown to think life is a video game.
Blowing up earth and all life on it, is not part of sane people planning, kid. Now get a hold of yourself and try and land on mother Earth and reality.
Reverse accusation. Americans are psychos. And to respond to a psychotic person, you must be psychotic.
It’s like a rabid dog and a normal dog. The rabid dog is ready to kill. And to save the normal dog, you must kill the rabid dog.
I see no other way. So, to save people lives, you must nuke USA.
OK, Serious, I have a very good news for you. Empires rise and collapse. USA will also loose its influence in coming years, and there is no need to nuke USA. Days of petro-dollar are numbered. Oil soon will be traded more and more in yuan. Also please take into account that USA went bankrupt in 1971, and since then it is downward spiral for them. Historically world reserve currencies last about 70 years, and Dollar already exceeded its shelf life. History makes no exception – empires overreach and it is something what speeds up their demise.
Empires collapsed when a more powerful one destroy them.
More like empires were not able to defend themselves anymore and their core was rotting from inside. Later another empire would flourish thanks to created vacuum, but not that empire would replace another one in confrontation. Within next 10 years USA will have more and more internal problems, and its ability to render its power will be reduced significantly. Economic power will shift to China, Dollar will need to make space for Yuan, and military power will wane in face of modernised technologies of their adversaries (see hypersonic missiles, etc). USA will also no longer have dominant position on oceans, as their carrier strike groups are vulnerable now more than ever before. All if it is slow process. Do not expect that it will take a few months. But in 10 years role of USA will be different to what it is now and what used to be during past several decades.
URSS collapsed because USA made it collapsed. Same as Ottoman empire that collapsed because the west make it collapsed. And the globalists are enough psychos to slaughter everyone and enough smart to manipulate people mind and use people stupidity.
USA will collpased when it will destroy every country and every culture on Earth because it will have no more goal and no more things to steal. When USA will have no more ennemies, USA will collapsed.
I wouldn’t say USSR was an empire. Re Ottoman empire, I have just read about it, and again – it rotted from inside. I agree re globalists, however I would not call them psychos. Most are puppets. USA will die soon, do not worry
Ottoman empire was destroyed by the west and lasted 500 or 600 years.
From what I understand, Ottoman empire started to destroy itself on its own. West just finished the job.
Fighter warplanes as well the missiles technology becoming increasingly common. The future of air superiority and small arms armed insurgency is numbered indeed.
The Decline and Fall of the Yankman Empire suggests otherwise
Thats not true rome fell mostly to barbarians.
Nice try
Your analogies are stupid ffs!!! We are smarter than my dick is bigger than their dicks.
Besides US is doing a fine job a defeating itself. Napoleon said never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake. Just look at all this as one big mistake.
Try another perspective for a change. Our out yourself aa a troll whatever
Napoleon is a looser.
Stupid did you not read the news?
Russia and Syria both stated they would this time respond to US strikes including sinking those US ships launching the missiles…
Who are the pussies when the dogs start to bite? Definitely not the Russians or even Assad.
USA will never attackTurkey wrong move and Saudi and all USA interest will be ruin.True Putin is very Dam scared of Defending allies.Putin is very slow.
Or, maybe, in the TWILIGHT ARAB ZONE, SAA will defeat USA in Syria. XD.
Every people who said to wait or not to target USA where fighting with USA.
It’s funny. A lot of people are talking but no one has a plan top remove USA from Syria but these people go after the ones who has a plan. XD.
It’s too easy to target every one and have no consequences. If USA attacks, USA interests must be destroyed. It’s no sens just to defend, what Syria can’t even do.
Then bomb them!
Something that is yet to be answered: The Kurds left the Euphrates River area to fight at Afrin, and they fled Afrin with most of that army intact. So where is the main part of the Kurdish army?
So where is the main part of the Kurdish army?
on paper
Sometimes solomon your correct. This is one of them
Not many arrived to fight in Afrin since if they have their bulk in there they’d have much more firepower to unleash on Turkey advancing forces. Instead we see no significant built up or counter operations that can signifying US provided equipment in place. On that conclusion of mine most of their forces never leave their dwelling in raqqa or manbij.
It is common among all the militias in Syria to refuse to concern themselves with events outside their communities. Others only pretend to participate in the fight. This is partially why the theoretical size of these armies are huge but few are engaged at any one time.
Problematic question to answer with the ongoing information war however you are making some assumptions.
Your first assumption is Kurds left the Euphrates River area. I have seen the announcements as well. But today, at least to my mind, this news seems to be fake or exaggerated. BTW, calling YPG/PKK, The Kurds is a US based generalization but that is beside the point.
And your second assumption is they fled the Afrin area with an intact army. I can understand and agree with the “fled” part of that assumption, but intact? Without mass desertions/casualties, through SSA or Turkish occupied regions. To me that seems highly unlikely.
Occam’s razor would suggest they are where they were before the Olive Branch operation started.
Good point, but the US army said actions against ISIS were suspended due to Afrin and if the Afrin army surrendered/desserted on mass someone would have seen it. Whole lot of minor unknowns in Syria…
PROVEN FACT: RUSSIAN FORCES DEPLOYED IN SYRIA CANNOT AND WON’T DEFEND THEIR PARTNERS IN THE EVENT OF A US/NATO/ISRAEL ATTACK
The latest news via The Independent (03/23/2018):
US soldiers killed ‘hundreds’ in battle with Syrian forces and Russian mercenaries, says American general
American troops may have killed hundreds of Syrian forces backed by Russian mercenaries, a US army general has said.
Up to 300 pro-regime fighters are thought to have died in American bombing that was launched in response to a surprise attack on a US-held base in the oil-rich Deir Ezzor region last month.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-army-kill-russians-syria-civil-war-mercenaries-deir-ezzor-isis-a8268691.html
Oh dry up, wanker.
Prove fact!!! Youre a peice of shit wanker that if we follow what he says its ww3 r8ght now.
Go to hell warmonger
Wanklord – dont waste your hand typing rubbish. Go do what your name suggests
The ‘Syrian forces and Russian mercenaries’ did not co-ordinate or get clearance from Russia to attack the oilfield and US forces – proxies.
Russia has no reason to protect or extract revenge on rogue actions and units.
Both sides are being very careful not to overstep and cause a full scale retaliation.
IF it kicks off whether over a major cause or an error, millions of people can-will die.
Direct conflict between Russia – USA – China – Iran will escalate. Israel will lose 4 million people. A single missile could kill 5 – 10 million in Britain. For the first time there is a very real possibility that the USA homeland will be attacked.
Fortunately at least two people understand this. Putin and Xi.
Under the protect of SAA I suppose as they had to withdraw to somewhere.
In the hell.
This is very interesting and VERY, VERY significant!
If Turkey continues on this path (the war path), and they are certainly making noises like they intend to continue, this will create a very, very serious conflict WITHIN NATO!
Don’t forget that this is Turkey’s backyard, and while, at a superficial level, they are violating Syrian sovereignty, they justifiably feel like it is in the own backyard. The U.S.A. very busy making enemies with… everyone, now the trade war with China (who’d have seen that coming? – lol), is projecting its power halfway around the world, and is completely illegally, and illegitimately in Syria.
Back to NATO, the second largest army in NATA is Turkey.
Make no mistake, this is conflict (Turkey v. U.S.A.), if it happens, has global significance.
There will be no quick fix to such a conflict, and NATO, as it stands now, will be irrevocably changed, to the weaker, and less legitimate.
But Turkey is wily, and a cost of truly alienating oneself from the largest military power on the planet is a steep price to pay.
Is Turkey doing this for a ‘beneath the surface’ negotiating position?
… perhaps
In the short term I highly doubt there will be a conflict between US and Turkey, one of them will back down, although at the cost of further damaging their relationship. It will have long term consequences though.
Turkey has the second largest army … US has the largest.
HOWEVER … it is Turkey’s backyard . US power is in US mainland .. thousands of miles away . Floating ships cannot replace the mainland .
No US is no match for Turkey just as US is no match for Iran … its their neighbourhood ! They can field unlimited soldiers .. where US cannot .
That’s why in a war with Russia , initially Russia will have the advantage .
Turkeys backyard is anatolia. Syria is neighbour.
Turkey will never actually completely go against US or other coalition member but they’d swing around their soft power here and there wherever it’s possible to get away with. Erdogan purging their higher officials and most of it’s pro west opposition for this result. Now it’s quite clear in the short terms at least that Turkey is able to pursue it’s own goals even if their goal unaligned with other coalition.
I think for now is not whether that Turkey work under secret agreement but whether Erdogan led Turkey will eventually survived their other coalitions punishment.
The chance of conflict between Yank and Turk = 0
Turkey says they will not allow YPG/PKK to stay in Manbij. (Doesn’t say anything about US)
US says they will not abandon Manbij. (Doesn’t say anything (currently) about YPG/PKK)
I see a lot of room to compromise between these two positions and reach an agreement.
US military presence in Manjib, Syria, without a YPG/SDF cover story is simply a naked invasion and occupation force – and very exposed politically.
i dont think erdogan would dare to pick US to fight.. instead erdogan will reroute its wrath toward aleppo
Thats why turkey is poking at sinjar
“A spokesman for the Turkish president has even calimed that Turkey and the US have reached an agreement to establish a no-YPG “security zone” in the area. However, all these claims and threats have been rejected by the US.”
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So the US is telling the Turks one thing and their Kurd allies another….. what’s new?
Or the Turks want to A) appear to be in total control of the situation and/or B) convince the Kurds that the US is in the process of screwing them over.
Very good and intelligent strategy of Russia. France, UK and Washington the illegal perpetrators cannot keep occupying the Syrian national land for ever. God helping Russia which is called the modern USSR.
Yes, it is a pretty mind blowing situation indeed.
Who calls Russia “the modern USSR?” Never seen it until you. It is actually just about the opposite of the USSR.
You need to wakeup now and stop watching football and MSM.
You are the dreamer. I’ve been in this war for over half a century. I remember when to be a “patriot” was to be anti-communist. Been onto to the MSM since the OSS agents moved into it before they were CIA. Football is deadly boring.
How old are you?
Again, who calls Russia “the modern USSR” other than you and probably the MSM which I quit monitoring decades ago?
The main point for me is, a lie was revealed. There never were supposed to be US/YPG/PKK/SDF forces stationed in Manbij. That crew was never supposed to cross the Euphrates. So, more than a year later, DoS is stating that they are there and that they have no intentions of leaving. Thank you for sharing Heather Nauert.
Numbers and propaganda aside, the defenders of Afrin just had their lunch forcibly taken. The loss of men and material has, with no doubts for myself, staggered the Kurds. As I have observed, Afrin was the true light and hope for them. None of them thought it could ever be taken ……… and now it is GONE. Pinprick partisan attacks don’t mean anything. Surrounded on all sides by adversaries, good luck with resupply. The DoS can say anything they desire. They can tell the truth, obscure, out right lie or fabricate but, it doesn’t matter anymore. They have two strikes now; Kirkuk and Afrin. That is both what is real and also is what counts.
Life is a rough and tumble event, as I have stated before. It is not the existence of light and dark that creates the heart of all that follows. It is the battle between the two sides and how we, the contestants, handle it. DoS representatives in the midst of cameras and questioners in D.C. are not even remotely near those involved in the real battle. The locals, on the plains where reality is being wrought, know and understand how empty the pledges and promises are coming from the US at this time. Makeup and pretty faces mean nothing. Before the lips parted and the words exited the head, they knew what was coming. My take on it. I wish well to all.
All for public show. Turkey is a loyal member of the West’s sphere of influence, and has been since Britain helped the Ottoman Empire ‘gracefully’ fade away in the 19th century.
The NATO invasion of Syria (Turkey) is planned and ultimately controlled by the USA. While zionist Saker lies and tells you the West has ‘lost’ in Syria, syria lies in ruins, put back DECADES as the jews of Israel demanded. And now Putin has, behind the scenes, agreed to the partition of Syria- hence the NATO invasion, and hence Putin’s (very) belated cleansing of East Ghouta in the ‘russian’ sector.
The kurds are history’s no-man. They are only ever on their own side- so in the geo-political sense they don’t count. For sure Turkey wants to massacre kurds (turks love mass murdering ethnic groups- see the armenian genocide), and kill every last kurdish alpha, but this isn’t the real story.
The failed ‘coup’ in Turkey was a clever Deep State false flag to get Putin to ally with “poor besieged” Erdogan. MI6 has been playing Putin like a fiddle ever since Tony Blair helped Putin to rise to ultimate power in Russia (yes, Putin was a Tony Blair project- don’t believe me, go google).
Putin is (very) good for Russia (at least til Putin allows WW3 to happen)- but very bad for the greater world. For Putin was selected and groomed to be the weakest possible opponent to the Deep State imaginable. Putin’s russian achievements (many) blind him to his failure on the world stage.
You are aware you sound, as a moron.
Turkey must enter Manbij without USA permission and respond forcefully if attack. Because Turkey is NATO member and can enter wherever it’s coalition members operate. If terrorist attack Turkey in Manbij then Nato coalition must enforce article 5 to defend the member against SDF terrorist.
No biggie, surround manbij and force them out.