Kiev’s Actions Receiving Tough Responses From The Russian Army

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Kiev’s Actions Receiving Tough Responses From The Russian Army

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Kiev’s Actions Receiving Tough Responses From The Russian Army

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Amid the fierce battles on the front lines, the Armed Forces of Ukraine resumed large-scale attacks on Russian territory.

On April 25, the AFU struck an oil depot and a military unit in the Russian Bryansk region. The attack was likely carried out with drones. A large fire broke out on the tanks with fuel and lubricants. According to local reports, in addition to the oil depot, fire presumably hit the 120th arsenal of the Main Missile and Artillery Directorate.

Later, it was reported that the Russian air defense shot down 6 drones in the Kursk region.

On the same day, the AFU fired at the border villages of Nehoteyevka and Zhuravlevka in the Belgorod region. Two civilians were wounded.

In response to the AFU attacks, Russian high-precision missiles hit at least six railway substations in Western Ukraine. As a result, railway facilities in the Krasnoe, Zdolbunov, Zhmerinka, Berdichev, Kovel, Korosten were destroyed.

The Russian Ministry of Defense reported that these stations were used for the supply of foreign equipment and weapons to the Ukrainian groups in the Donbas region. Now, railway communication in a number of western regions of Ukraine is blocked.

Meanwhile, on the front lines Russian forces are slowly advancing in different directions. The joint Russian and LPR troops are pushing the AFU to the south of Izyum and near Velikaya Novoselka. The reinforcement of Russian forces in the area continues, so a major assault in the area is probably yet to come.

To the east, the LPR troops advanced from the direction of Kremennaya, took control over the village of Zarechnoye and are approaching the town of Lyman. The AFU are suffering heavy losses in the region. Control over the town of Lyman will provide the LPR units with a direct road to Slavyansk from the east.

Another victory for the LPR was claimed to the north-east of Popasnaya. The town of Novotoshkovskoye was taken under the LPR control.

A Su-34 of the Russian Aerospace Forces was shot down over the Balakleya district of the Kharkiv. Both pilots ejected safely and were promptly found by the search and rescue team of the Russian Army.

In Mariupol, the Russian side unilaterally claimed another truce for evacuation of civilians from the Azovstal plant. A humanitarian corridor was secured for workers, women and children to exit in any direction. However, none of the civilians ever came out of the facilities, confirming that the Azov nationalists do not care about the fate of their hostages.

Two months after the launch of Russia’s military operation in Ukraine, the situation on the front lines confirms that the conflict has finally phased in to a war of attrition.

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Itachi

Finally that Su34 was shot down?
I wonder Wich Ukrainian equipment is capable to do that!🤔

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jens holm

You dont look up. Thats why.

good4u

Ukrainian loses:

https://t.me/TheEternalUkrainian2/4626

Numbers seems to be lower that Russian DoD claims, but it looks like that 1/4 manpower is gone. At least 1/4 of ground forces. Most of the Air force/defence gone.

Not sure how Ukraine could possibly push Russia out. To create successful offensive/counteroffensive the force must be at least 3 times larger than defenders. Not necessary manpower but firepower

jens holm

I dont use telegram.

I use Youtube, TV, Newssites with experts. If there are 6 experts telling about losses they are added and divided by 5.

Your assumption about 1 of 4 makes sense, but You might add some of the wounded ones back.

They also are added reinforcements, where many are secondclass and some few are very good. Thier mainproblems are to get enough hard equipmen and are flexible.

I also dont believe in pushout. I believe in the Russians can be exhausted. By that they has to retreat.

Ukras seemes not to very good in counterattacks. I agree in they might not have enough well prepared units for it. So they are like moskitos in this and not many.

They might do something else making deep defense. Small groups of soldiers with missiles might pass the Russian also having obersevarsion drones with them. By that they can be guerilla behind enemy lines and take targets in ambushed.

I think we soon will see if the Ukras can stop the Russian offensive from eats or not.

By the way I often look at the Syrian Live UA site.It has videos in the bottom often with Ukra stuff. By that Yiu can verify at leats some of it.

jens holm

6 haha

mistiick

“Experts”, beeing NATO shills. I would not give a penny on them, since they are neck deep in this war, be it militarily, ideologically, and also they very likely profit from it big time too. West needs to keep up that winning narrative just as much as Russia needs it aswell. For me western experts (with very few exceptions) are same as Kremlin ones, just biased in another way. I try to watch Indian media, CGTN, and some nieche european ones, like you can get very good in depth analysys on italian RAI sometimes (if you know italian).

jens holm

It wont eat what I write to You. I might have offended it.

Many others in nato know a lot. They are as reæibale as it goes.

I dont belive in anything from Russia.

I might look at Rai now and then too being not familiar with Italien sources. That goes for India as well. We do have a radio channel covering India well.

noname

Pentagon experts? Nato experts? BBC experts?
Russia has ammunition for 3 more days experts?

you are in southfront because?

mistiick

There will be no counteroffensive, there was actually no proper counteroffensive of Ukraine in entire war (Kiev and Cernigiv directions were abandoned by Russia without military reason, for instance just a day before pullout town of Slavutich near Chernigiv was captured and encirclement of Chernigiv was sealed. Only question now is how much land Ru can grab, before the thing stops. As for death toll, in case of Ukraine we need to take into account all the Ru shelling and bombing of the areas behind front lines. Ofc, not all strikes kill hundreds like on on Nikolaev barracks did (unfortunatelly for ukraine propaganda this one was filmed by western journalists). But there are so many strikes each day, hitting groupings and command posts of Ukrainian military. And those casualties are never reported properly since Ru cannot film it (area not under their control), and Ukraine will not report it for obvious reasons.

ATBOTL

There have been no gains on the ground and that’s the only real way to measure who is winning and losing.

ATBOTL

NATO can bring in unlimited men and weapons. The only way Russia can win is to to TAKE and HOLD ground. Any part of the Ukraine not occupied by the Russian army when the shooting stops will be occupied by NATO troops before long.

Zero

I bet it it got shot down by a fighter..daft russian probably didn’t arm it with air to air missile .just like they did in Syria when Turks shot down su 24

Wizzy

They’re dumb to be repeatedly flying below 5000m. They need to learn.

Q

Yeah they risk a lot but you can’t really do serious ground support flying at 10km. There is a video with Su-34 flying very low yesterday, probably that one. IMO not worth risking the plane. these kind of missions should be abandoned except in special situations. Better to attack bridges and other stationary objects.

jens holm

Thats exactly how it is. Even You loose many of them smaller drones are better.

Ukras do that. Drones with camera are target finders for their artillery.

jens holm

Its a best to the price choise. The russians dont use the very expensive smart bombs. By that they has to come in slow and low.

Thats perfect for fx Stingers.

thoughtful

The British SAS did it although they may have allowed the Ukros to push the button, whilst they held their hand and helped them to do it. So, Technically now the Ukros did it, kind of. Please do some sketches to make us laugh at how NATO is making war on Russia in Ukraine whilst the Ukrainians are dying, afraid to get out of the underground bunkers, having their hostages die and Blackrock and Vanguard are heaping in the profits for their weapons, from the taxes on the West whilst the ordinary people are too hard up to pay for the bills and cannot even cook their food.

jens holm

Thats incompetent illitarate crap. Gadgets on the marslander know more about it then You.

Next time You as minimum shuld use both hands and a candle under Your bed blanket.

MalcolmXnxx

Same on that shot down Russia naval ship

Yhoo Major

Jesus F*cking Christ!!

Why has Russia not bombed All railway connections. Literally all. Leaving railway lines function is like Russia asking for punishment.

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Dan

Probably to study the networks and to draw them out. They will be destroyed.

ATBOTL

That makes no sense. There is not need to “study” key bridges. Every day you wait to take them out helps the enemy and kills your own troops.

NATO is laughing at you

Hahahahaha

Bloop

Why did it take them 8 YEARS to finally respond to Ukrainian provocations? Seems like it’s all being staged and choreographed to follow a pre-planned agenda.

Hjalmar

Very good question. I have myself wondered about this since 2014, especially why Putin abandoned Donbass when both Donetsk and Lugansk held referendums resulting in both wanting to rejoin Russia, but they were rejected by the president. Why, I haven’t got a clue. Had they been welcomed back to the Motherland then, we wouldn’t have been in the mess we’re in now.

ATBOTL

Putin is a liberal by Russian standards. That’s why.

Hjalmar

A liberal? I don’t don’t see that. Instead I see a devout Christian a great patriot and a deep thinker. He is also, famously, a great fighter … Judo-fighter that is.

ATBOTL

He’s liberal by Russian standards just like Woodrow Wilson was liberal by 1910 standards. Putin is not a Russian nationalist in any sense.

Hjalmar

Well, that’s your opinion. I don’t know the man, so maybe you’re right. Who knows?

thoughtful

you have scrambled eggs for brains

jens holm

I hpe some day many more understand more the liberal and conservative. Where is superoligarc crimanal murder no taxpayer in this.

thoughtful

It does seem however that he is reluctant to USE what he has, anxious not to provoke, yet he may as well. The West over reacts to insubordination and were determined to take Russia’s resources for the Blackrock Vanguard who own everything filth. Russia would do better to have the West self restraining as they groan, knowing they cannot go further. He should stand up and tell them STOP, its all over! Give up, the GAME is OVER.

jens holm

Thats worse then normal bias.

Ilya

You are visibly trolling. But yes, he is very liberal economically, to the sense of prioritizing free market and the profit of companies over building a country that is sovereign and works for the society.

He is not a nationalist and looks up to the west as a model as the entire russian elite. And tried as much as possible to keep up in good terms with the west, which only didn’t happen because the west had other ideas.

jens holm

No he is no liberal. Even liberals takes in tax. So in those matters reward plundering.

Russia really need tax for the state. Liberal is not letting 50% of the Oligarc incomes taxed at all.

Thats just an example. It well descriebed by so many. Why the F… dont You learn from that and make the many very needed changes.

jens holm

Sure and the moon is above his head Harry Christmas

Egregius

Are we talking liberal by the North American definition, or the rest-of-the-world definition? Because those are polar opposites.

Ilya

Liberal in the US is a term used to describe social, behavioural attitudes. In the rest of the world, it is about economy. They are not polar opposites, but yes, in the US it broadly means left, and in the world broadly means right.

Putin is definitely liberal economically, and is certainly more liberal (in the sense of social questions) than both right wing nationalists and communists.

jens holm

Thats right. There are many versions.

A third known is the socalled Skandinavian model which has been used as role model for vital changes in USA by SANDERS.

It has what they dont have including all people and equalize. The production rate is very good as well.

None can just change to a new model. That goes for conservatisme and other systems as well.

But we can learn from each other and implement local changes in local contexts.

Ilya

Can’t even compare the Golden Age Scandinavia with Sanders’ program. Olof Palme would be regarded as a hardline commie today.

Olof Palme, the guy who stood up to the CIA and got murdered for it. Back when Sweden was a very relevant diplomatic force despite the small size and one of the richest countries in the world. Good times. Then came neoliberalism…

good4u

That is true. To the surprise of many, Medvedev would take a much harder measures against Ukraine than Putin ever did. Georgia’s war called by Medvedev and not by Putin

thoughtful

Russia could not take on the bully tyrants of NATO, half of the world, the sanctions and all of their weapons, until NOW.

jens holm

We will see if now is now.

thoughtful

Putin was afraid to THEN because the Russian weapons were not built up then, he could not risk a war. So he slowly BUILT up the arsenal of weapons and technology. Russian scientists thank you for helping to defend our WORLD from the tyrants.

jens holm

Its a disfunctional museum of the worst kind.

I feel safer then ever. Russia will not even arrive to Denmark unless they use bicycles and fishing gear.

In Ukraine they only has met a well educated defence miliatary force.

It nor even has maintain unites. It has no capability or soldiers for protecting tanks. It has no air superiority in the air.

It hardly can feed itself having lack of fuel as well.

Russia dont need scientists. Russia need producers and logistics.

Russia also need well educated soldiers. Even spetznazes mainly are 4 years. Russian here need long term officers as well.

The command structure are one stringed. Those killed generals loose their communication to their troops and are killed in the frontlines. Thats the same for the infantiles in Syria.

Even very centralized its very ineffective in those matters too.

Elgar

Russian soldiers have been poorly trained. One of the biggest surprises on war. For instance they were too slow to repair their tanks and engineers incompetent to build bridges. European NATO has now no reason to fear Russian conventional war machine much at all. Incompetence of RF forces similar to that of Red Army during Finnish-Russo Winter War 1939-40.

jens holm

I agree 100%. If I compare the difference is we have fewer but much more well educated soldiers, where a lot of equipment, maintainence and supply semmes much better.

The Russian soldier has not been upgraded. They are added good missiles and a littlle more then that. Its well decriebed A great part of the Nato force are many years soldiers. many has combat experiance and by that in all levels has a veteran know how.

We as contrast also has conscripts which are lower educated then the Russian ones. The Russians are soldiers in 2 yars. Ours might only be 1 year.
By that they are not backbone but last defence. They are in as important helping hands for the fighters. They do have a rifle or a machine gun.

Ilya

If European has no reason to fear Russia, why don’t they drop this stupid obsession to instead focus on improving the living standards of Europeans? Probably the money wasted in american weapons and supporting wicked regimes just because they are anti Russia would be good use elsewhere.

Hjalmar

Yes, he is mindful about this sad situation he has been put in. He wants to keep the civilians out of harms way, but has now faced the major obstacle of the Black Beast from the Bible, (that you told me about). Problems, problems, problems.

jens holm

Its very easy. Russia also tryed to Keep Minsk 1 and 2.

I think I agree. After WW1 Denmark could take all land back from Germany we wished for. But we decided to vote the new border.

By that there are friendship. They have their minority here. We have our monority there. Both are given money for culture.

When needed they share hospitals, firebrigade, keeping the nature nice and so on.

The police can cross the borders to the neigbors even with sirenes. By that no criminals down to speed tickets can hide.

The danish schools are very different from the German ones. Even so almost half of the children there are Germans. Some of them speak danish better then us.

Apart from Hitler there has been very good relations ever since.

About Krimera it should have been theopposite way around. Russia should have it renting to Ukras for their ships for free.

Facts are it has not happend. Im sorry for having one more warzone and 30.000 not in their homes even thos many children and women seemes to be nice people. A luck is we actually has many vancant low paid jobs.

Elgar

Boneheaded play by Putin. He’s is far from anykind of chess master of geopolitics. Even more lousy with economic questions.

jens holm

They more or less kept MInsk 2.

Ukras has not kept Minsk 2. Then Russia has staged in the worst probatly propganda. Next they have concluded by those lies(where some are partly true).

And thats what You and the rest f the world see right now. Very much propaganda is to laught at here. It only can be meant for Russians already knowing nothing.

Its not possible for Russians to check up things, when they not even get them.

Ukra and West knows a lot more. None normal ones believe most of the crap. We have journaist there. We have free news sites and refugees here with mobil phones and androids live to family and friends.

By that we can add and subtract the many sources much better.

Ukras do a lot of propaganda, where many things are very biased. Here we use the pocket calculator too.

Its a big risk for any to start a war. So hesitation and being well prepared is a must. You also cna see the sliding by countries giving more and more help to the Ukras. That was not expected. Unfortunatly for Russia they also has lied for themself.

Their military forces are not first class. In the other hand they totally has ignored the modern Ukra military forces.

And You and I might have seen the Russian troops much better then they were in 2015. he main problem is the same today. Its keep.

How can they keep 35 mio hostile Ukras? If they are Russians they are voters for Putin or what?

thoughtful

Russia do not want all of Ukraine. Neither do they want the Nazis or the NATO or nukes there. Russia wants to SAVE the Ukrainians who are GLAD of him.

jens holm

We dont care about what Russia want. Its not their country.

They certainly save people in the hard way. Maybee the hospitals can operate them into constant smiling.

Jack bauer

Ukraine is a fake country. It is Russian clay.
Kiev is where Russia was born.
It was called Kievan Rus.
Look it up.
Khazars owned the lands of the south of Ukraine and they were defeated by the Kievan Rus.
They then fled westward into Europe where they became known as ashkenazis.
The oligarchs in Ukraine and Russia are all khazars. Anthony blinken is a khazar. George Soros is a khazar. Victoria nuland is a khazar. Zelensky is a khazar. Kamala Harris is married to a khazar. Bidens kids married khazars. Trumps kids married khazars. Clinton’s daughter married a khazar. one of bushes daughters married a khazar. Even Putin’s daughter married a khazar. Are you starting to get the picture yet?

Khazars hate Slavs. They want them dead. They want them humiliated. And they think it’s funny.

zulu

Where did you get the idea that the Russia doesn’t want all of Ukraine. Didn’t the Kremlin say a month ago that the goal of the special operation is to denazify Ukraine, how do you think to denazify Ukraine if you take only one part of it and not the whole of Ukraine. If Russia wants to prosper, it must first deal with the post-communist legacy, which even today, 30 years after the fall of communism, is present in the minds of Russian parasites who undeservedly waste oxygen in the cities, Moscow and St Petersburg before all the others, and think someone owes them something.

Ilya

Have you really ever been to Russia? How much krokodil are you injecting to see Moscow and Peterburg as bastions of communism?

Questions

It is a very interesting question. A possible theory is that the US, Russia, and China have already formed a New World Order organization behind the scenes and this is all staged practice for controlling the civilian populations, particularly the US civilian population which is heavily armed, as the world’s oil reserves are now on a downward slope.

thoughtful

There may be players in China who have agreed with the NWO already but does Xi know about it or would he be one of the last to know? There may be PLAYERS in Russia who want the NWO and who may be bribed with their own assets. When one says Russia or China, what and who exactly is meant by that? In the US we can see the deep state at work and the demorats. The politicians in the UK seem to be easily led to accept and do what they are told by those clearly in the deep state’s pocket and who are profiteering from the decisions.

Ilya

Call your doctor and ask him to change your meds

Questions

Putin was at one point a WEF member. I’m just brainstorming possible theories. I myself do not think it is likely that there is a unified NWO. Make an argument… just calling someone crazy is very lazy.

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NDR7652

So which NWO the one lead by Hulk Hogan or the Wolfpac lead by Kevin Nash ???

jens holm

If You cant find Your menthal hospital, You can use a taxi. They know where You live.

JJ345

Ukraine is a testing ground for Russia in my point of view.
Who is running the show in Ukraine, the US, and NATO not Ukrainian, now wouldn’t you say it is a great time to study and see the reaction of NATO/US without fighting them face to face.

What’s funny is that even NATO and the US fully know that Ukraine is done for, all they do is send old or about to be expired weapons to Ukraine to slow down Russians. Ofc, make some money for themselves and act as if they did something – morons in West eat their shit none stop, I’m not joking.

Also, the world is seeing the true faces of satanic worshipers again – if a country makes deal with Russia the US of Zion going to remove them – Pakistan was a warning to India. Just read the news about India it is most likely how the West order India to cut ties with Russia 24/7. Now the EU even pushing India to cut ties with Russia.

There are a lot of things we don’t know about…or each side thinking or going to do…

jens holm

Thasts not things are.

jens holm

.Nato was not in Ukraine and Putin has invited them in. We now almost are.

jens holm

Thye have hoped of an easy defeat at the field. Next You dont blow away things, You might need Yourself later.

From start the Ukra troops already was well suppled and well prepared. They did not need mch. They need it now.

Its also easier to take evacuated towns. You always can say the should habve startet 14 days ago or something. Russia only can handle things there in their ususal devastating things to the ground in total destruction.

ATBOTL

Because Russia’s leaders are liberals and incompetent.

Egregius

Yeah, Russian leaders are too soft, that must be it. Can’t be the rampant corruption and nepotism that’s fucking up their operation.

jens holm

Its well descriebed by many Youtubes.

Its not about being soft or not.

Too much looks like Volksturm.

jens holm

…Yes, robbery is liberalisme and taxfree too:)

Egregius

Because they’re running out of long-range missiles (same reason why they’re still using tochka-u’s).

thoughtful

Putin is a soft teddy bear who does not like hurting the ordinary people. As long as he is shrewd and can be tough when he has to be. Gosh if Putin went to war against the UK, I would encourage all to surrender as he would be kinder to us than our own.

Hjalmar

Funny, but also true. lol.

MalcolmXnxx

Why Russia start a war they don’t know how to finish a lot of why Russia question the world wants answered

jens holm

Its very simple. They want to take back as much as they can. They forget most of it taken as forced theft.

A main mistake is theyhave dont treat people, so keep is an option to join.

ATBOTL

Putin and his soviet era ministers are bad at military planning and leadership. They need to be replaced immediately with younger, post-USSR nationalist leaders.

Arzt Injektion

“The AFU are suffering heavy losses in the region.” That is an understatement if I ever heard one. It is pure butchery. Ukraine needs to surrender. I support Russia but I don’t want to see a country totally decimated this way.

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Poster

If russia don’t want to see the country decimated, then why it invaded it first case?!? All what is russia capable of is only destruction. If russia was a prosperous country UA would never decided go the democracy way …

JJ345

What happened in 2014?
What happened in the last 8 years?

Like the fuk are you talking about…we knew this was going to happen for the last 8 fuking years. Ukraine is Russia’s red line, what did you think Russia was only going to talk tough and nothing more as NATO/Wahhabis/yanquis and ZIon start building up next to Russia…

“UA would never decided go the democracy way” – what the fuk is “democracy way” now?
Is that the democracy way? Getting a Zion gay as their leader and the country very much being in the hands of Neo-Nazis…
No, you are right that sounds VERY much right, I remember Syria and Iraq – they sure as shit saw the “democracy war” thanks to NATO/US and Zion.

Would Ukraine get destroyed if they agreed to not join a terrorist cult?
Remember Ukraine was okay with this, no one force them to get NATO in Ukraine right?
NATO invaded Iraq with the US, NATO invaded Afghanistan with the US – they will invade any other poor/unstable country as long as the US starts the war…

Now, do you think one of the world’s superpowers would let these terrorists cults build up next to them? No.
Remember the biggest enemy of NATO in their story books are the Russians and Chinese.

jens holm

80% took over from 17,8% assisted har by Russian propagands, bajonets and fear.

The change was not nice. Ukraine by that actually went to be its own state as the rights by UN.

You waste so many lines for something uncorrect and devastating wrong.

jens holm

We see the same here. USSR as a system collapsed itself.

The the members want something different and hopefully better. They look around and should have the right tochoose something else.

I see democrasy as having many more deciders, which make any products better unless its made by a machine. Its the same for logistics,

Those changes in USSR and Comecon should have been started 20 years before Gorbatjof and Jeltzin. You cant just give wellfare as state donation. The base is making a middleclass for it. Russia stil hardly has one.

They are the producers handling the advanced things in production and logistics. They also has to be rewarded for it. By that they can help others too. The Proders pay tax and the well paid in jobs pays tax to the cycle.

chilcare,school, education, reward for skills and hard work. You get money for healtcare to all as well as hospital. An when You finally cant work more, You dont have to. You get a pension where You at least has a roof, food, clothe and can be varm no matter what.

Elgar

Without mentioning how poorly Russia operated with COVID 19. Their excess deaths during those 2 years have been staggering 600,000. Another example how incompetent Russian society is compared to China and most of Europe. Very fragile. Seems to be that only glue to unite Russia is rather boring hype of Great Patriotic War. Younger generation Russians need more credible ideas to go forward in 2020’s than those Stalinist myths and legends.

Zero

I totally agree it just mindless slaughter now…it’s seems be mainly just average Ukrainian soldier..while the nazis hide with women & children

ATBOTL

You have to stop this cucky thinking about the “average Ukranians soldier” vs the “nazis.” There is no difference. In a war, all enemy soldiers the the enemy 100% and none is any good or deserves any mercy. If Russias are such fags that they can’t stop simping for the enemy, they deserve to lose every inch of Donbas and Crimea. No one will give Russia credit for starting a war and then not killing the enemy. They will respect you less for being weak.

It’s amazing how Russians think you can fight a war like a simp and they expect to be loved for it.

jens holm

Only 2.15% are nazis there.

Its no Ukranians slaughtering their own population. The invaders do.

Your version of hising is far out and a construction.

MANY MILLONS ARE EVACUTED. They are her where I live too.

You write nonsense. The best would be the Russians had their military forces in own country. You should ask why not.

ATBOTL

“Ukraine needs to surrender.”

Why? Russia has been on the retreat for a month. You can’t retreat and then make demands.

jens holm

Russai has not retreated for a month. They have lost two big battles. The rest is a well planned slow retreat by the Ukras.

Bernard Davis

Idiot, what battles have the Russians lost? The war is basically over; the Ukes are paralysed and now copping hell on earth. They must surrender in the name of humanity.

jens holm

This is meant to be like that. Russains are suffering a lot too.

They have added their leftovers for it.

Elgar

So why is RF military forces unably to take under control much of area since 1 March 2022? The real reason is that Ukrainian losses have not really been as high as Russian military have claimed. Russian military itself have been remarkable incompetent what ever guys like Andrei Martyanov and Scott Ritter are claiming. Clumsy, slow, hesitating and relatively poorly trained and led. Seems to be that only their long range missiles have shown some quality, not their regular “professional” Army or Navy.

Elgar

Heavy losses? Then why is RF hardly advancing at all? I have to admit to have believed first 4 weeks in claims of Ukie high losses but not now. Losses my have been “high” but not even near as high as RF military has claimed. One example is the numbers of Ukies in Mariupol. There were never 14,000 or even 20,000. In fact according RF intelligence 8,100 and even that might be too high. Hundreds of Ukies have managed to escape. The Mariupol is example how relatively small number of Ukie soldiers can block RF forces. When it comes RF forces are even 15% them combat soldiers? Their ability to maintain and service armoured units have been relatively poor, partly even lousy. There are lots of evidence enough to make certain conclusions: RF army is operating surprisingly poorly and shortcomings of even training are obvious.

Bernard Davis

The only tactic the Ukes have is to hide in towns and cities among hostage civilians. They fire from civilian areas and then scream genocide when Russians fire back. That is itself a recognised war crime. In anything like open warfare the Ukes are slaughtered, as is happening right now in the Donbas. Published footage of their masses of mutilated dead are stomach turning.

Wizzy

Ain’t no war of attrition here, Russia just in 2nd gear. They can shift anytime they want, civilians are standing in the way

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Very optimistic.

NATO is laughing at you

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Hjalmar

Kiev are receiving tough responses from Russia. Great to hear, but only if it is tough military responses and not “tough talking” coming from the Kremlin, as they now have become something of a laughing stock. Nato seem to have lost all respect for the Russians now. They say what they will, and do what they want. They even helped sinking the Moskva without any response at all.

The Russians should at least have told the US demons that they were going to sink one of their Aircraft carriers in retaliation for the sinking of the Moskva, for that would would have worried them, for sure. So while Putin’s slow war continues to drag on, we can now look forward to a change in Russian attitude.

I hope the writer of this fine article is correct because the whole military apparatus of Russia needs to toughen up and be prepared to unleash hell all over Ukraine ASAP, for as I’ve said before … The only language the Black Beast from the Bible, Nato, a demonic entity from Hell, understands is the language of EXTREME VIOLENCE!

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Q

One small incident could indeed lead to WW3 (=full scale nuclear exchange). Although I’m pretty sure NATO will do something to directly provoke Russia soon. And Russians should be ready to retaliate. If they don’t they will be provoked again even more.

Hjalmar

Yes you’re right. They are in a trap that they can’t really get out of. There is only one solution and that is to attack Ukraine as hard as possible, ASAP. For as long as the fighting takes place in Ukraine Nato can’t really do anything but complain and blame Russia for everything, even the bad weather’

So therefore Russia now needs to wake up pronto from hibernation and let the bear loose so he with his claws can rip the entire Nato machine to pieces and then stomp whats left into the ground till it turns into dust, after which the wind will do the rest by scattering it all in all directions.

jens holm

The provokers are Russia invading ukraine in full scale and its results.

Thats the sliding seen from here. By that we support Ukraine and are not relative neutral any more.

Putin did it. If You dont like, You take in someone else. Most likely million are better then him. Money? He has too.

good4u

Jens, do yourself little favour and read this article

https://labourheartlands.com/jacques-baud-the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine-update/

from former Swiss UN military adviser

jens holm

Its a nice very long link. Thank You for that. But I already has so many versions and wont read much more of it.

But thanks. Nice people give good links now and then.

good4u

ignorance is bliss ;o)

Elgar

Russians can blame only Putin’s decisions if and when Sweden and Finland join to NATO. In few days Nato support increased from 29% to 61%. Now it’s even 64%. In fact he managed to unify NATO than any other crackpot before.

Hjalmar

Yes you’re right. They are in a trap that they can’t really get out of. There is only one solution and that is to attack Ukraine as hard as possible, ASAP. For as long as the fighting takes place in Ukraine Nato can’t really do anything but complain and blame Russia for everything, even the bad weather’

So therefore Russia now needs to wake up pronto from hibernation and let the bear loose so he with his claws can rip the entire Nato machine to pieces and then stomp whats left into the ground till it turns into dust, after which the wind will do the rest by scattering it all in all directions.

(Sorry, I just posted this comment to myself by mistake. It was actually meant for Q and his comment below this one.)

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ATBOTL

The only thing that matters at this point is calling up reserves, radically increasing forces in Ukraine and fighting hard and FAST to take ground. Unrealistic threats to America will not help, only large advances on the ground NOW with no further retreats will help Russia.

Hjalmar

Of course, so why doesn’t Putin realize this? He is genius, after all, something we have to agree on, and a master tactician. And maybe he is controlling the situation perfectly, with his laid back style of waging war? We don’t have all the facts, he does. But you would still think that he should at least send in a hundred thousand new troops. Russia can if they have to get an army of several million men ready for war relatively quickly. But Putin is Putin. He is an enigma.

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ATBOTL

Putin is a liberal who knows nothing of military affairs just like he knows nothing about economics but some cargo-cult level neoliberal talking points.

Putin’s education was to be a police officer or prosecutor. He worked for foreign intelligence, but did not come out of their schools, like many field agents from all countries. He put basically cops in charge of intelligence in Ukraine and the whole Russian government. Shoigu is a cop-adjacent “first responder” type with no military knowledge or experience. He worked with cops his whole career as basically a glorified fire chief. Putin’s clique is cops, prosecutors and judges, not spies. The real spies aka the former KGB First Directorate have been marginalized by Putin. In Russia, power networks come from who you went to school with.

Russia has liberal cops and liberal public relations experts making all the military decisions. That’s why these decisions have sucked so hard and are totally failing.

GameOfThrones

Totally agree.
Im following this Russian issues for years.

Putin always slept over all problems.

He maybe did good progress in his 1st 4 years, but latter haven’t achieved almost anything. He looked only about keeping own influence.

If we looking economic issues Russia would need big reforms for long time, that he didn’t provide. He was supporting without reserves tycoons that were all living abroad and pull all money out of Russia for 20 years. For having biggest yachts on world and castles in France.
None of them is any capitalist, but almost all just thieves.
Even english colonies were not exploited in such a way as Putin allowed to be all the time in Russia. Also Saudi Arabia is “petrol station” but its 25 million citizens have very high standard. Why are in Russia so many poor people?

Also in the field of social status of citizens. By inequality is Russia together with US most unequal of all 1st and 2nd world countries.

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Ilya

Putin is not a genius. He is a neoliberal, rotten to the bone, umbilically linked to vultures that destroyed Russia such as Yeltsin and Sobchak. His biggest concern is not winning the war but managing the assets of companies. This entire pathetic strategy was developed with the goal of saving money. The 90s mentality is alive and kicking in their heads

Elgar

Even those who dislike Putin are amazed how stupid decisions he had made. Before Ukrainian operation most of western so called experts were thinking that Putin is smart and skillful. Not now. He gambled – and is now losing a lot.

Hjalmar

Lets just face the fact here that you are a Putin-hater. No matter what he does you still hate him. I am the total opposite of you. Putin has saved Russia, and you know it. And the Orthodox Church knows it and, of course, the majority of the Russian people.

GameOfThrones

Putin is not any genius.

He is on neoliberal train, obviously without any real economic understanding

With neoliberal ideology and entire tribe of neoliberals in government you cant develop just any country. Which he would obviously like.

And it is additional problem that Russian neoliberals are very, very in competent.

He for example again appointed Nabulina for national bank. This women is making extremely stupid moves all the times.
He had floating exchange rate in country that had one if the biggest reserves on world and big surplus. Why? Nobody can undermine currency of such state.
But consequence of that was highly volatile exchange rate that caused big inflation in Russia.
And to stop this inflation NB is pushing prohibitive high basic interest rates, that blocking all economic development, because with so expensive money nobody will invest inside Russia.

and they are just keeping in this way till these days. Still 17%

jens holm

Its an overoptimistic version. But we have too little facts and too much propagandia as well as guessings and hopes.

To me the Ukras should take some TV towers in Moskva, water to Krimea or the Krimea bridges.

ATBOTL

Tough responses like retreating from half the land captured in the early days of the war and not increasing the forces or calling up reserves? Tough responses like repeated unilateral ceasefires and weak sounding statements from leaders? Tough responses like taking months to destroy key targets like railroad bridge that should have been knocked out in the first hours of the war?

This is more empty bravado with nothing to show for it.

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Hjalmar

I wish I could contradict you, but I don’t think I can

ATBOTL

Real patriots call out bad decisions by leaders. You can find many real patriots on Russian speaking forums. But almost all Russians who speak English and choose to comment on English sites rather than Russian ones are liberals BY RUSSIAN STANDARDS. So they support the war nominally, but also support not fighting hard or trying to win. They want to go soft on the enemy and fight very slowly, as if there is no danger of NATO escalation. liberals have to dis

Same with Southfront, the Saker etc. these people are all liberals by Russian standards who are being payed to give the government line. They were trained in some USSR language school where they learn to write this turgid style of prose that tries to use Latin/Slavic type syntax and grammar instead of proper English syntax and grammar.

It’s all so tiresome.

Elgar

The Saker has no real every day touch to Russian reality. Living in US Deep South while fantasizing being “Russian”. Just like Oxford upper class snob believing to understand realities of British working class poor. We have seen these farces during every generation.

Hjalmar

Reading your great comment, it dawned on me that it actually more or less exactly describes a certain person we often talk about here at SF … Vladimir Putin. So I finally get it, I think, Putin is a liberal by Russian standards.

SuperDave

Alex Jones Infowars GLOBAL EMERGENCY! Russia Says It’s Officially at War With NATO, Warns Nuclear Armageddon IMMINENT
WW3 threats SPIKE as Germany sends tanks to Kyiv & Kremlin says it’s at war with NATO
Meanwhile, Russia’s foreign minister Sergei Lavrov has warned there is a “real” danger of a third world war breaking out after a day of apparent Ukrainian attacks on Russian soil.

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RichardD

For it to be a war of attrition both sides would have to be suffering significant losses. That’s not happening in this war.

“Attrition warfare is a military strategy consisting of belligerent attempts to win a war by wearing down the enemy to the point of collapse through continuous losses in personnel and materiel.”

– Attrition Warfare –

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attrition_warfare

I would agree that the Russian forces are using attrition of the Ukrainian forces in conjunction with measured advances. Saying that the Ukrainian forces are using attrition against the Russian forces would be a stretch. To the extent that it’s a war of attrition, it’s a one sided war of attrition. Because only the Ukrainian side is experiencing collapse. The Russian side isn’t anywhere near it.

In a larger sense it could be considered a war of attrition if you take the economic and political warfare being waged by the NATO Jew World Order against Russia. But from a purely battlefield military perspective. Only the Ukrainian force is suffering attrition. On the Russian side it’s a war of conservation, not only of forces, but of territory gained. Because the Russians want to acquire territory with the minimum property damage and civilian loss of life. So that these areas can be incorporated into the Russian economic sphere at the lowest possible rebuilding costs. At the expense of Ukraine and their NATO Jew World Order masters.

Attrition implies that the sides are somewhat evenly matched, and are trying to exhaust each other’s resources through destroying the other sides personnel and material. The only side suffering significant destruction is Ukraine. Russia is suffering almost no losses in personnel and material compared to the massive losses being suffered by the Ukrainian military.

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ATBOTL

If Ukraine is experience collapse now, Russia would be making big gains instead of retreating for a month.

RichardD

Russia can make big gains, but not at an acceptable cost in death and destruction. That’s why the advance is slower than it could be if collateral damage was less of a consideration.

A retreat is when an opposing force is unable to hold ground and falls back. A withdrawal is when an opposing force can hold ground, but chooses to redeploy to other areas for various reasons. The Russian pull back from Kiev was a withdrawal, not a retreat. The advance on Kiev served it’s purpose of holding a significant part of the Ukrainian military in place. And when that purpose was served. The Kiev force was withdrawn.

GameOfThrones

What you explained It is all miscalculation. Big one.
Because you assume that opposite side will wait till you come slowly to its territory to “retake it without casualty ”. In practice is just opposite. In time that were given they brought a lit of weapon, mobilise troops, dig deep. And even kill local Russian speakers.

How much would cost some bridges or building to repair if war would go faster?

In comparison with slow war in which obviously now everything should be bombed, otherwise Ukraine forces dont move out?

Or what would be cost difference if Russia would go first day in Ukraine with million army (easy with reserve) and conquere Russian territories. And make frontline to the rest?

RichardD

The defending UAF are decimated and their fortified positions are destroyed before the RAF moves forward to mop up what’s left. That takes time.

The UAF has had 8 years to dig in. A few months will make little difference.

The cost to move a million RAF would be exponentially higher. And overrunning UAF positions before they’re mitigated would result in much higher RAF losses. And involve a lot more collateral damage.

Elgar

The trend of military casualties are showing sharp decline though fire power has also sharply increased. Why? Simple because there are now fewer and fewer combat soldiers per frontile combat zone km2. 200 years ago there might have been even 5,000 soldiers per km2. Now hardly more than 5-10 on avarage. There is no need to keep hundreds of soldier per km2 because few soldiers have quite a lot of firepower.

Rosza Miklos

Russia is under assault by NATO using Ukraine as a mere proxy. NATO troops are already in Ukrainian territory using their advanced military weapons. Please Russia, realize you are being attacked by the West with intent to take over your country while splitting up your oblasts to be ruled by this sly, and devious invasion pretending to be Ukrainian troops. I hope Russia you can reestablish the equivalent of the Warsaw Pact that you had under the Soviet Union. The West is not your friend. I hope, you Russia, can defeat the criminal intentions of the West without resorting to Nuclear weapons.

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You forgot a number of fires. Besides the oil depot and military base, a meat processing plant and Agroprom Komplekt were also burning in Bryansk. This is after the chemplant, weapons lab and warehouse where another defense company was located, and simultaneous with 5 recruitment centres being firebombed and the fire in Ussuriysk, in the far East.

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Ilya

So in other words: the “tough response” was their usual “high precision missiles” that seem to have achieved fuck all in two months, and the frontline didn’t move an inch forward, because Novotoshkovskoye was taken at least four days ago.

Same as the mytical liberation of Kremenaya, which was announced with fanfarre as it was Stalingrad for three or four days in a row. I had to check in the map if there were multiple cities with that name.

Ah yes, and they managed to lose an airplane to a bunch of farmers. 30 years of crony capitalism and oligarchs with their children in the west and the Red Army became this.

I see to finally agree with the khokhols: send Putin to Hague. Better, send him to hell.

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RichardD

Ukraine has lost 10 to 20 times the personnel and material that Russia has. If Russia was losing the Russian military would have been pushed back into Russia and the conflict would be being fought on Russian territory. The exact opposite is happening. Russia controls a significant amount of Ukrainian territory while Ukraine controls zero Russian territory.

Ilya

Ukraine lost ten times more soldiers yet Russia advanced barely an inch since early March? Stop fooling yourself

I am om Russia’s side. That is why I am calling out the impostors and traitors in this government. At this moment Putin is causing more damage to Russia than NATO

RichardD

The internet is full of UAF death videos. I haven’t seen anything similar for the RAF. It took years to clear Syria from 10% to 70% of territory under Syrian Government control.

Show us your Rambo plan for defeating the UAF, which outnumbers the RAF in theater by 5 to 1, maybe higher. With the monetary, personal, equipment and collateral damage costs compared to the current progress.

Mariupol, one of Ukraine’s 10 largest cities, was cleared since March. Which was no small feat. And dozens of smaller settlements have been cleared and captured during the same time. With minimal RAF personal and equipment losses. Which would be even lower if Ukraine wasn’t full of NATO specop personal and equipment with full satcom support.

The UAF had also lost massive amounts of equipment during the same time. With almost certainly thousands of dead and injured. And a lot of captured and surrendered. With nothing comparable suffered by the RAF.

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RichardD

How is Putin causing more damage to Russia than NATO? While fighting a war that is bringing in up to $1 billion a day in additional revenue from oil and gas while bleeding NATO with the costs of subsidizing the Ukraine economic basket case? And paying much higher fuel costs?

Ilya

I thought the point of the war was to liberate Donbass and not to raise gas prices

Elgar

So why front line is not moving at all? That’s the real traumatic fact making most pro Russia fanboyz uneasy. The simple truth: Ukrainian losses have been not near as high as fanboyz are fantasizing. They have been higher than official Ukrainian figures but much lower than RF military has claimed.

RichardD

The front lines are moving in Russia’s favor. The vids of UAF dead are voluminous.

MalcolmXnxx

Tough response Russia been in the same piston for a month haha

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Elgar

Their military incompetence has been revieled. Soldiers too poorly trained.

Elgar

It’s well known fact that enemy losses has during military history always been exaggerated. I neither believe claims of Russian military nor those of Ukrainian military. Real losses have been hardly more than 20-35% of those claims. On the other hand RF and Kiev regime has not revealed their true own losses either.

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look for Zelensky’s wife and parents

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David JS

Flood the steelworks and the rats will come out

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John Tosh

Zelenskyy gets his energy “ all day “ from snorting cocaine. So Western media created a fake video by deleting the cocaine on Zelenskyys desk to help him.

The Western G7 have been supporting a drug addict who does not care about Ukrainian women and children or even Ukrainian soldiers as long as he gets his cocaine, money and video roles all signed up.

These are the types of leaders the seven headed monster (G7) is pushing on the planet. The CIA (prostitute in the Biblical book of Revelations) is riding on the G7. Soon European countries will start turning on the CIA. They will tear the CIA apart for a simple reason.

The CIA has been manipulating elections in the G7 countries to maintain their people in power. Macron did not win the French elections. The CIA put Macron back in power by manipulating the election results. This is why France is having internet problems right now. The coalition of data about the recently concluded French election needs to wipe out all evidence of the election fraud.

Welcome to the G7 Dragon with seven heads. The ten horns include Poland, Ukraine and the rest of the rigged elections. The ten other countries will have CIA installed Presidents for a very short time (Bible says they will be given power to serve the G7 for a Biblical Hour)

The end of the G7 and the CIA is occurring right before our very eyes. Russia is a catalyst of the demise of the evil Dragon and her prostitute.

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Rodney Loder.market

There probably is no hostages in Azovstal iron and steel plant.
The West seems to be gambling on Russia wanting to exit the war, a lot of people in Australia are starting to believe their own hysterics, so how are they going to feel when it all becomes obvious that satan has been dangling his bait, Ukraine is not like Afghanistan, a Country that just doesn’t matter so they (the US) could claim the moon and the stars even though they were wrong about everything. In Afghanistan there were no consequences.

But Ukraine is a world view game changer.

Russia is on track to join up with Transnistria and Russians love their President, how can US and Australia live with that outcome ?.
They won’t be able too, Russia knows that, Australia is the sick man of the Pacific a sickness we caught from the USA, so unfortunately the war will continue for 3 to 5 years this is to help Australia get over it slowly while allowing the US time to recover their composure and not freak out too badly.

However I must say if the Ukranians continue to attack Russia proper and use modern weapon to shoot down F34’s the war might end more quickly, although I can’t see Russia rebuilding western Ukranian cities and the West won’t be allowed in.

So who’s going to do the job when there are no more western Ukranians?.

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ATBOTL

The only “tough response” from Russia has been massive retreats and a stubborn, foolish refusal to mobilize reserves.

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Richard

We have to fight back and expose Klaus Schwab and All active WEF members, World wide!
Their Evil as Hell!

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Oy!

If we remove Putin and his kgb oligarchs from power, Russia could actually become a democratic republic with free elections etc. We can also in theory join the EU, right? Russia is much better asset to the EU than Bulgaria, no? I would rather see Russia as a part of the EU than fighting against Ukraine and entire civilised World

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