The US is desperately pushing a new ‘diplomatic proposal’ to halt the fighting over the city of Aleppo.
US Secretary of State, John Kerry, made suggestions to Russia, which would ensure the withdrawal of “opposition forces” from eastern Aleppo.
But why does Kerry desire this?
Is this just a ploy intended to buy time for the militants to regroup and resupply?
Or is the Obama administration stalling for time to extricate US mercenaries and special service members from the Aleppo pocket?
If these ‘supporters of Syrian democracy’ are captured alive or dead, the Syrian-Russian-Iranian alliance will be in possession of rock solid evidence of US special operations directly supporting terrorists in Syria.
If US special ops are in Aleppo (I think they probably are), they should be captured, and prosecuted for war crimes.
And where they possibly might be convicted? I think bullet in the head and thats it.
that people is money (a lot) in diplomatic and espionage issues, especially if they’re kept alive.
On an emotional level, I agree with you; however, I think it would be far better to try them publicly to expose their crimes and the crimes of the US government for all the world to see. As to where they could be tried, I’m certain that the courts of Syria are more than capable of prosecuting these self-righteous vermin.
So, do you think the New York Times or the Washington Post would print the story?
No. No. No. They are very good deposit. Capture them, track terrorist organization and make Americans pay high political economic and military price to get them free.
they must be prosecuted, and if not speak of their commander, orders, and all of concern, death sentence will be done. Americans are war cirminals, and if there is justice in this world, tehy must be prosecuted tigheter with milosevic, in EUROPE !
Americans want to operate with no law, they want have nuclear bombs while no other can. I personally can’t understand, why not NorthCorea? Why not Iran? Why Israel CAN?????? I remember from my school that only Usa make nuclear bombing…. not one time, TWICE!! and this only to intimidate the enemy of the moment.
Now clearly american boss, want to dictate terror everywhere they want.
we are near, very near a new WorldWar only because american imperialism want to make a new 4th Reich to put world under american dictates.
And if americans do nothing, at the end of everything, americans will live same as germans lived after ww2 (death, starvation, murder raping).
please, americans, think well what your bosses are doing…….
They are all after Russia, she is the prize.
Russia (which I hate very deep….) in this things are out, Russia made his interests and help a country who was destined to the same fate of Libya (for which no war criminal, exterminator of children like obama and clinton mad and never pay their masters, thanks to the UN offices). and the only country to be eligible (because called) to serve the interests of a sovereign country at home. All what have never made the Americans since 1776 to date, which have invaded, exterminated, insulted, robbed in every country where they wanted to set foot
Carlo, you have to understand that America too is just a proxy, the real agenda lies elsewhere.
yes the sionist master of the world, but if the world must be under sionist feet, the things can change, because they can think to make all of they wants, then the whole world could re-evaluate what is said to have made Hitler (even if the story you have told us is not really gone as they say….), one day russia may open their sovietic archives and we can see finally and then we can revisit the Holocaust in a very different lights
They know what they are signing up for,
“Under GC III if a soldier is captured by an enemy, he must be treated as a lawful combatant and therefore a Protected Person which for a soldier is as a Prisoner of War (POW) until the soldier has faced a competent tribunal (GC III Art 5). That tribunal may decide that the person is a mercenary using criteria in APGC77 or some domestic law equivalent. At that point the mercenary becomes an unlawful combatant but they must still be “treated with humanity and, in case of trial, shall not be deprived of the rights of fair and regular trial”, because they are still covered by GC IV Art 5. The only exception to GC IV Art 5 is if they are a national of the authority which is holding them but in which case they would not be a mercenary under APGC77 Art 47.d.
If after a regular trial, a captured soldier is found to be a mercenary, then they can expect to be treated as common criminals and may face execution. As they are not POWs they can not expect repatriation at the end of the war.
The best known, post World War II, example of this was on June 28 1976 an Angolan court sentenced four mercenaries to death and nine others to prison terms ranging from 16 to 30 years.
The three Britons and an American were shot by a firing squad on July 10 1976.”
There is the small matter of wearing a recognisable uniform indicating that you belong to a particular state. If you don’t wear a recognisable uniform, you are not a “soldier”.
That is not true even for the US forces.
“In combat situations, distinctive signs may replace service and even battle
uniform, in particular in covert operations. They are often used to mark an
item of uniform — such as a beret, arm patch or lanyard.”
” Undercover work or espionage by members of armed forces
will, for obvious reasons, mostly take place without proper identifying clothing, even though such activities may be unlawful under international law. ”
” civilian objects, the Parties to a conflict are required at all times to distinguish between the civilian population and combatants and between civilian objects and military objectives and accordingly must conduct their operations only against military objectives.”
The law only says you should try and distinguish, nothing about ‘Uniforms’. Of curse Guerrilla warfare it is accepted that the party will not wear uniforms.
The mere fact that one is bearing arms is enough to make you a combatant and entitled to POW status.
Espionage? Spies do not have POW status, and neither do mercenaries. Western SFs would be spies, and most jihadist are paid to be there, so they are mercenaries. They’ve had years to make a uniform and at least try to look like they mean to be lawful combatants.
Sorry but I do not agree. Many videos show the ‘Rebel’ forces wearing ribbons attached to their clothes. By the Law of War this is sufficient for them to be accorded soldier and POW status.
Western SFs are not “spies” if engaged in combat.
Government soldiers (in all wars) are paid, but does not make them Mercenaries.
Mercenaries can be POW and accorded combatant status, think of the Hessians in the War of Independence. The point is that in Syria, Mercenaries are not combatants in a declared war between states.
Where a war between states is declared then combatants fighting on both sides whether citizens of the states or not are accorded ‘soldier’ status.
Where the war is a civil war or an uprising, then the non-state combatant is not entitled to ‘soldier’ status, but is a common criminal. Foreign persons fighting for money are simply a special (mercenary) class of criminal and usually incur extra penalties.
We are under the Geneva Convention. US forces in Syria uniforms or not, are mercenaries under the definition of the pertinent articles of the Geneva Convention. Try reading the law instead of giving us an uninformed opinion.
The Hessians and the American Revolutionary war have NOTHING to do with this terrorist operation by the US/NATO/TURKEY/SAUDI axis!
Well if you would actually read what I wrote dummy, then you would not raise strawmen stupidity.
Listen up. The use of Mercenaries is permissible in a declared war between states and they are in uniform.
Learn to read.
Learn to think.
With due respect, there are micro and macro legal aspects involved. The militants in Aleppo executed any SAA soldier they caught back in 2012, in large group killings, that means there are active war criminals either dead or being searched for, however, whosoever oversaw those units (including localized command control rooms), are liable for those actions internally under Syrian law. Now, realpolitik enters at some point, and both Russia and Syria may allow foreign personnel – ie NATO personnel out – in exchange for certain outcomes.
Absolutely, but I do not think that either Syria or Russia has any faith in the promises of Turkey, US, Israel or Saudi.
But there is a chance that they can hold off on major decisions until Jan 20 and give peace a chance.
Of course Russia and Syria don’t trust US/NATO/GCC – latter’s actions always duplicitous, but the former will horse-trade to get some outcomes. Think of it as essentially a prisoner exchange – if the Syrians are holding/ have trapped foreign illegal military personnel they are of some exchange value – and they will be offered as exchange for some form of outcome.
The US hasn’t declared war on Syria or invoked any statutory reasons for US troops being in Syria.There are no UN resolutions allowing them to be in Syria and the Syrian government has not given the US permission to be there. Uniforms or no they qualify as mercenaries under the Geneva Conventions and as such may be executed by the capturing party.
Pretty shameful to me that American soldiers would train these terrorists and fight by their side. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!
That is what I wrote, fool.
Agree!
Thank you that was very informative.
Without a declaration of war from the US Congress, a UN resolution and or an invitation from the Syrian government all Regular US forces in Syria are war criminals for making aggressive war and aiding international terrorism and liable for war crimes indictment and trial. If they are caught by Syria or Russia any and all US forces in Syria are subject to execution if captured.
Just read the cite you give. Any and all US forces in Syria would meet the definition of a mercenary force and be subject to execution if captured.
The last few weeks there have been numerous reports of Green Berets dying in various accidents on post and a couple were supposedly shot in Jordan by a Jordanian soldier. Covering their losses no doubt with fake news stories.
That is exactly what I wrote, only I quoted sources.
Why not learn to read.
What part of “Where the war is a civil war or an uprising, then the non-state combatant is not entitled to ‘soldier’ status, but is a common criminal. Foreign persons fighting for money are simply a special (mercenary) class of criminal and usually incur extra penalties.” did you not understand?
Better to prosecute their commanders.
I’d recommend much more sophisticated action than just putting bullets to their heads. Russia should make USA pay a very high price.
Much speculation. No evidence. It’s journalism like this that is likely to destroy the reporting agency’s credibility.
I don’t think there is anything left to destroy when it comes to the credibility of news agencies. Same as for politicians, lawyers or bankers. ;)
I agree with you as far as the MSM is concerned. But I had hoped for better from the much maligned “Alt Right” media, such as Southfront. with Southfront, as with much media we know we’re getting a biased piece – propaganda even. But one can still garner good news from biased reporting, and, to me, Southfront has been the best source of information about the Syrian Civil War that the MSM is mainly ignoring. Unfortunately, the wild speculation, such as the bit presented here damages what is otherwise a good source of data. If it turns out that the US has American citizens working inside Aleppo (which I doubt), we’ll know soon enough.
Scott it is not a civil war but a proxy war nor is the Syrian government a regime. Quite the opposite. There are some good journalistic articles that gives a very good account how the ‘civil war’ started by terrorists.
The problem is not american citizens – they got killed in the past in similar (or not so similar) settings and their government always kept “plausible deniability”. If they are there, it would probably be impossible to prove they work for a US agency. The only hypothesis (taking for granted that there is actually some hidden interest) that would stand out is that the US government is actually receiving a lot of pressure from another country or entity to negotiate. And when the americans are so involved and willing to work out a solution, normally that country is Israel. Yet today’s news already said that the US actually withdrew from the talks, so I wouldn’t lose my sleep over this subject anyway. Sooner or later Aleppo will be freed from fundamentalists and whatever snakes they harbor and protect. The way things are going, the SAA is not going to hold talks anymore, it’s clear that their objective is liberation of the city.
Logically any Western SF operative should have left in august, after the
Jihadists managed to breach the siege. Any smart military would have
pulled out its special forces at that point, as the risk of renewed
encirclement was just too great. If the breach held they could always be sent back in later.
Still, I do admit that the
fanaticism at which the US, France and the UK keep on trying to push
through these cease fires that clearly serve no other purpose then to
help the Jihadists is suspect so I can understand why it gives rise to these ideas.
Perhaps logically, but it is a lot messier than that. Imagine a SF guys saying to the jihadists, ‘ok we are going home now that the siege is breached!’ The jihadi commander says ‘like hell you are…’ You can imagine the rest. Their only value to the jihadi cause is being there. Leaving may not be an option.
Ah! but then it was not a civil war.
They have had chance upon chance to withdraw their mercenaries and special forces. What part of safe corridors, that they refused to use, does Kerry not understand. Does he seriously believe that Russia will keep stop and starting, whilst the US restocks their men/women? Especially after they took out the Russian Hospital?
It seems they did. The Russians complied to truces many times before so NATO could now have gambled one time too many.
There was a lot of talk that it would take months to liberate Aleppo. Maybe the controllers thought they had more time to get their special heavy duty killers out.
That attack on the field hospital was very professional.
They are idiots and desperate. What happens after 20 January 2017?
Who is in the area, to be able to generate that degree of professionalism? Why are the UK spending $83,000,000 tax payers money, courtesy of the Foreign Office, to the White Helmet Terrorists?
Will there be some other false flag, to take interest away from Western flunkies committing yet another war crime?
Latest report coming from the civilians evacuated from East Aleppo is that a woman took her sick daughter to the White Helmets for help. They shot the child.
Links?
YUP! And that attack sealed the fate of close to 1,000 US advisers with these terrorists. The Russians are really pissed about the attack on the hospital. When are US troops going to stop whoring themselves out to the neocons and their bosses in Israel and obey their oath to the Constitution?
Checkmate!
Good chance for Russia and Assad to make very good deal to let them go… and put Americans pay a high price.
“…What part of safe corridors, that they refused to use, does Kerry not understand…”
It doesn’t works quite like that, AMHants. Syria is allowing safe passage for Syrian citizens who are opposition militants and want to leave Aleppo. Syria does the checks to ensure the person is actually a Syrian citizen. There is no such amnesty for foreign militants, who are never allowed to leave except in a box. Foreign militants will be killed or taken into custody (and then tried and killed), period.
The U.S. is crapping its pants about all the trapped CIA contractors like Blackwater/Academi/XE. I doubt there are actual U.S. military stuck there (but who knows). Normally, the U.S. has the host country sign agreements that exempt all U.S. troops and contractors from any local laws. In Iraq and Afghanistan, U.S. troops and contractors cannot be prosecuted for breaking ANY Iraqi or Afghani laws, no matter how egregious or horrible the crime. The agreement says that the U.S. will take care of any law enforcement on its own personnel itself. If Iraqi/Afghani authorities arrest a U.S. military/contractor, they have to turn them over to the U.S. with a description of the crime. It’s up to the U.S. to investigate or prosecute, and of course they never do.
What the U.S. has been trying to negotiate is a ‘Get out of jail free’ card after-the-fact for their hired homicidal thugs. Syria basically said ‘Screw you – they’re dead men now’ and Russia laughed and agreed. Without a transition to a Clinton administration, the Obama regime can’t do much of anything. The neocons are furious that they have to abandon their hired jihadi pals.
Thank you for the informative reply. Oooooops, not a good idea to be a mercenary. By the sound of the hysteria coming from the UK, looks as though it is not just US mercenaries out there.
They have had chance upon chance and at the end of the day, they had no permission to be in the country. How lovely that the Neocons are getting a taste of their own medicine. BLISS.
It does not matter who they are or from what country they are coming! Hang them! Take a picture and send those to the NYT.
Not to mention the Israeli Brigadiers and other officers actually directing the battles, the Turks who are trapped and an occasional SAS sniper.
Israelis there, highly unlikely.
Turks, that would he possible.
CIA contractors? Maybe. Stupid of them not to flee to the YPG in Sjeikh Maqsud. However, even the YPG would not be happy to find americans among those who were shelling their civilians.
Remember a few years back when some Israeli officers turned up dead in Syria? It is a known fact that Israeli hospitals treated ISIS terrorists and released them to return to the battle! So why do you figure there would be no Israeli personal in Syria?
There is a difference between giving medical aid to indiscriminate syrians, both fighters of different groups and civilians in order to garner some goodwill and placing military within Syris.
Doctors have the Hippocratic Oath which requires them to render aid to any and all individuals. I’m not questioning your claim from a logical perspective, but I wanted some solid source links to the info that you claim. If I knew you were peddling propaganda I wouldn’t have taken the time to ask. The only reason I found this article interesting is how it effects US personnel, and possibly a dynamic of sorts. I’m open minded to the complexities of International Relations. Keep in mind all nations use liaisons and agents abroad to report back to diplomats, the Human landscape is incredibly complex in a volatile environment like Aleppo, there are many interests at stake.
No not just mercs.
“There is a strong cooperation between MOSSAD and ISIS top military commanders,” asserting that “there are Israeli advisors helping the Organization on laying out strategic and military plans, and guiding them in the battlefield.”
2015 Oct.
Updated: Israeli General Captured in Iraq Confesses to Israel-Isis Coalition
“General Shahak was captured by Shiite militia and is still being held in Iraq.”
“Israfil Yilmaz also known as the Dutch jihadist, was a Dutch ISIS trainer, militant and blogger of … According to the Turkish press, Yilmaz is the most famous ethnic Turk fighter in ISIS ranks. He was wounded … He is one of the most famous Western jihadists and highest ranked Western military officer in ISIS ranks. In 2014 …”
“Reports have been appearing in various pro-government media outlets since September 20 that some Russian warships, deployed in Syria’s coastal waters, hit with missiles a foreign-led military operations room near Aleppo city, killing 30 Israeli, US, Turkish, Saudi, Qatari and British officers.
The military operations room was allegedly located in the western part of Aleppo province in the middle of Sam’an mountain. ”
Aug 1, 2015 – SAS dress as ISIS fighters in undercover war on jihadis …
Is this just a coincidence or are there additional phenomenon to support Israeli support for ISIS? How could they possibly benefit from this relationship? Sounds suspect.
It always sounds suspect to a Baptist or Assembly of god member. ;-)
Here we go.. My question still stands if anyone has any facts to back up the ISIS Israeli link.. I won’t hold my breath.
@Core, Israeli link to terrorists,
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Israel-treating-al-Qaida-fighters-wounded-in-Syria-civil-war-393862
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/12/08/aiding-isis-israel-bombs-syria-for-fifth-time-in-18-months-gives-arms-medical-aid-to-militants/
Have many more links to Israel supporting terrorism, just say the word Core!
Great info thanks. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. It makes sense that Israel is leveraging paramilitary groups that fight Iran backed Hezbollah.
…balloni. Yeah, you US/UK colonialist and your insane entity Israel are the source of all evil.
Sounds like Israel has you butt-hurt. If you could coexist with others outside your radical religious ideology you wouldn’t be the bane and anus of the world. Your propensity to predate on the weak within your own culture and lack of backbone is the reason why you and your people are weak. Man-up, work hard, and stop being lazy pricks. Stop crying about how bad you have it, and how evil the world is, while you do nothing but begot more evil because you don’t have the spine to work for what you want. Go cry to the wind, because no one cares for weak men who will not sow the land to reap the fruits of their labor. Gabriel is ashamed of what you have become.
ditto!
Vanessa Beeley, for 21stcenturywire.com, has this to say about a bunker in East Aleppo — http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/12/16/reports-at-least-10-nato-military-officers-captured-by-syrian-special-forces-this-morning-in-east-aleppo-bunker/
Israelis should be hanged too.
They have got the lot, American, israel, Turk, Saudi they are all captured.
As I predicted 2 weeks ago, sometimes I am so smart I scare myself.
http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/12/16/reports-at-least-10-nato-military-officers-captured-by-syrian-special-forces-this-morning-in-east-aleppo-bunker/
absolutely clear. great comment, i earlier asked myself , why they have not wanted to come out of the cauldron?. ty pave (y)
There are over 1,000 Green Beret terrorist advisers with these criminals. The last few weeks their have been various reports of Green Berets dying in various ways here and there. Covering their loses? Mercenaries have NO protection under the Geneva Conventions. US troops illegally inside Syria fighting on the side of AlQaeda, Al Nusra and ISIS are essentially legally in the same boat. They can be summarily executed.I will bet if any are captured alive they will be interrogated and put on TV to spill their guts and then executed for war crimes.
When you say Green Beret terrorist advisors what exactly do you mean? Okay I think you are referring to US specops that are supporting some sort of unsanctioned paramilitary forces? What are your sources? Tia
They are paid terrorists. Not opposition. This is Wesley Clark doctrine regime change for Israel’s benefit.
Does this mean US contractors can perform abortions in Afghanistan? Iraq? Syria? Israeli settlements? Is YPG pro-choice? As an overpopulation activist I support pro-choice factions, which would either be Russia or YPG or Israel. OR the US but not many of it’s proxies as I doubt FSA is pro-choice, and I know Assad isn’t.
If there is no pro-choice faction, then at least if the anti-choice factions all kill each other, it will reduce the population, which will help the environment.
the same thing happened in Ukraine. the candor was stopped for the mercenaries to be withdrawn after US and rest begged Russia but the Syrian case will be different with the bombing of the hospital
That was the obvious intentions from the US who have their covert operatives on Syrian soil as do the UK, France, Saudi and Turkey. Russia exterminated 30 of them by missile when the US coalition killed about 80 Syrian soldiers plus some Russian through an air attack during the previous cease fire agreement.
lol where’s the source of what you say? I’m pretty sure that if there are “consultants” to the ragheads entrapped in Aleppo they’re israeli, or anyway ppl working for Israel. Which you by the way omit to list in the list of your suspect countries. If they’re there they would prove the connection between zionists and jihadists, which is something much more feared than proving US support for Nusra or whatever whores they connect to.
Google it, that way you can familiarize yourself. Regarding Israel they aren’t worth mentioning since they are a no account nation.
There’s images of US special forces and SAS in Syria driving around like the TV series
The Rat Patrol.
Russia’s declarations to act and protect Russians in Syria rings hollow when the above
Roam around and create mayhem on command.
These foreign assets are Terrorists….no different than headchoppers.
Maybe it’s time to really stand on the Theme of opposing Terror,
And stop cutting deals with the Devil
Israel a no-account nation? Besides you should explain what you mean by that, since I’m not that sure, you are probably forgetting that the source of all the problems, the wars and millions of deaths in all the Middle East since 1948 has been Israel and its unlawful, fascist-repressive style military occupation of other countries sovereign territories.
Lavrov explained in pretty plain and easy understanding language, that those who don’t surrender will be eliminated. Syria and Russia provided safe corridors for the terrorists, at numerous occasions, now if they don’t want to utilize that generous opportunity to evacuate from Aleppo, why should anyone feel sorry for them, if they instead choose to fight until the bitter end? That is a choice they have made themselves. Now in my opinion something else must be behind this desperate quest for a ceasefire, and I think it might just be that the strategic advantage for the Syrian government will be irreversible if Aleppo falls (witch it will very soon) and that the U.S doesn’t have any finished plans for the escalation of the conflict, since neo-cons in Washington counted boldly on a Hillary victory, witch would have given them plenty of time for planning the escalation of the Syrian conflict. Now they have a lame duck president that can’t do anything but sit and wait for the expiration of his second term in office, and a establishment deeply divided amongst pro Trump and pro Hillary camps, and no one want’s to stick out his chin before Trump is inaugurated as the president, since a wrong move in the security or military questions, could mean the ending of their careers, example James Comey, the current FBI director, who after the prodigiously incompetent handling of the Hillary’s e-mail scandal, I find it very hard to belive that he could retain his position, since he has accomplished something, witch requires a very unique talent, witch I thought that only one other person had, the Turkish president Erdogan, namely to severe his relationship with both the Hillary and Trump camp.
Witch should be ‘which’. . . . a mistake no native English speaker would make. I do wish the folks in Russia who write most of the copy and comments on the site would make the effort to learn better English. I prefer honest ‘Russian English’ to ‘Russian English’ trying to masquerade as Native English.
Have the English “professor” heard of Dyslexia?? Obviously not. And by which criteria did you conclude that i was “masquerading” as an native English speaker, which by the way i am not. Does that make me per se, an “undercover Russian” in your opinion?
I have dyslexia too. Got to check my comment before posting.
No native English speaker would make that mistake? What about the ones who write for Yahoo? I see worse every day.
I think that your point is trivial, and is, perhaps, an attempt at deflection. By the way, I’m not Russian; I’m Canadian.
Apart from the littlest of mistakes you made by saying “if Aleppo falls”, it can only be liberated…
The rest is spot on, thanks for that analysis
A city falls to the enemy. Aleppo is being liberated by the Syrian government. Aleppo is a Syrian city and is being liberated.
Why doesn’t Kerry just come out and admit culpability. Then he and the rest of “the gang” can turn themselves in, to face justice for war crimes. It would save lives, time, effort and money. It is also the honorable thing to do. Snigger, snigger. Chortle, chortle.
The expression “caught dead to rights” comes to mind.
In Kerry’s case “flagrante delicto”.
How about Lavrov publicly request response from Horse Face if there are US Special
Forces,CIA or other assets in Aleppo.
Kerry and deep state are on the record then….
Lavrov could also jab with a reminder that the SAS roaming around Jordan/Der Ezzor province
Like it was North Africa and Monty,….best leave before they become trapped and disavowed by their gov.
It’s a bizarre conflict where lying and denial is given courtesy in public image.
Sadly, I can envision the special forces being offed and buried before Aleppo falls to legit Syrian forces. Just saying.
No US citizens serving with the US military or CIA would likely be on the ground in the rebel pockets. What you would find are paid CIA third country proxy fighters and instructors. Such assets would not even know who their real controllers and paymasters are. Possibly you would have some paramilitary intelligence officers from either Saudi Arabia , Turkey or the Gulf States embedded with the rebels , however they would have most likely been evacuated or disowned by now. Funny how the rebels collapsed so soon , methinks somebody turned off the spy satellite coverage and eavesdropping over the Syrian army front-lines and headquarters buildings! With a change of administration in Washington , the gophers at Langley and Centcom are moving quickly to cover up the tracks of CIA support , directly and indirectly to Al Nusra and even Isis in Aleppo and possibly Syria as a whole.
There are already pics and vids of US Special Forces in uniform with their little terrorist buddies in Syria. Your whole comment is about 6 months behind reality. Quite a few reports in American media the last few weeks of Special Forces soldiers being killed in training accidents ect. Covering their losses?
There’s a difference between the US Army Special Forces in Northern Syria embedded with the Kurdish YPG and the so called SDF(Syrian Democratic Forces) and the CIA paramilitaries and proxies. You are speaking of the former which has been officially acknowledged. I am speaking of the latter. The CIA has a long history of using proxies and third country nationals to fight it’s wars. As I mentioned the majority of these hired fighters would not even know who their final paymasters are. You cannot have Green Berets advising Al Nusra in Aleppo , but you can have paid mercenaries that blend in and fit the role. If they are killed , or captured they either look like so many other dead rebels or what they say seems like a far fetched conspiracy. It’s called ‘plausible deniability’.This is the ‘reality’. You get the picture??
northern Syria is the same than Aleppo is Syrian Sovereign territory and they are in the same situation. are war criminal, as all personnel of Usa, Turkey, Arabia, and all european of NATO. same thing, they are not in their house, Only Syrian Army, Russians and Iran personnel came in Syria with Syrian request.
And if in Northern Syria they have yet possibility to escape, perhaps in Aleppo they are in a trap and I can’t think they can evacuate. I hope they pay hard and if possible after the world can see proof of american rule in syrian war.
We must think of in the last 15 years Usa make a lot of damage all around the globe.
today I hear of American implication in the epidemic of cholera in Haiti, after seen 100 years of american war crimes all around the world all is possible.
the burden of proof at this point is ever on the Americans (and their trusty dogs, British, French and all those countries that continue to want to impose by bullying their interests, usually is called imperialism, but I see it as something infinitely worst).
my language isn’t english tongue, but this thing don’t tell us nothing, only …… I can assure you that my country is into NATO, also if we don’t like be servant of americans. Specially after see afghanistan, Iraq (2 times), Serbia (all Jugoslavian country), Lybia (this was the best of the worst, Gheddafi was great!!!!! Life Lybia was better than in several countries also in Europe. There was no poor men, there was more social justice than in USA, believe me, I’ve been there.
I can guarantee you that the reason for his murder and the subsequent war (with hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths due to American bombing, British, French) had nothing to do with the reasons that were talking NYT, Washington post and the usual servants of a certain power that governs the US since the time of the Kennedy assassination. The real reason has already been identified by many, but even after that disaster no one has dreamed of nailing the US to their responsibilities.
one thing is certain, with no possibility of being denied and deniable. say there is democracy in America is the dance of the century !!!!
There might be a point in this comment.
Most likely. I’d suggest them being Poles, South Africans, etc….
BLA HA HA HA NO WAY ! You never gave a damn about this trash when YOU sent them in so LET THEM PARASH. Next time THINK FIRST and do WAR CRIMES last.
DO NOT let this crap back into the USA!
Time for the hired killers to pay the piper..
“If these ‘supporters of Syrian democracy’ are captured alive or dead, the Syrian-Russian-Iranian alliance will be in possession of rock solid evidence of US special operations directly supporting terrorists in Syria”…ONLY the most, naive, gullible, fool, brainwashed or brain dead don’t know that the UNITED STATES is SUPPORTING TERRORISMS AND ARMING, TRAINING AND HAVE SPECIAL FORCES FIGHTING ALONG SIDE WITH I.S.I.S.
Unfortunately, there are many many people here in the states who are as you stated. The MSM and the education system has turned them into dumbed down sheeple.
It doesn’t matter. “World Order” is just a phrase. Just US and Russia going behind the scenes and make deal (= Americans paying very heavy price, political, geopolitical, economic, strategic) . How about US give up in Ukraine, some gas pipeline consensus favoring Russia etc???
40 days tic toc any CIA vs Delta could easily get out if they wanted to tunnels by now all the way into area . I figure the city its self has 48 to 72 hours before another major collapse in defense based solely on ability of Troops without replacements and resupply. Massive tunnel bombs probably will be used soon.
It is CLEAR to me. It is a political issue. Obama does not want to have ALEPPO FALL UNDER HIS ADMINISTRATION. All he wants is anything after december 31. Nothing before. So the democrats can blame TRUMP. DOWN WITH ALEPPO. NOW !!
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Putin, don’t accept this bs.. every other time, all they did was rearm and get more fighters.. just erradicate them!
US is always a loser on the wrong side of history. Never learns.
One would imagine Us and other special forces would fight to the death. The notion of America’s top-flight best soldiers surrendering meekly to Syrian and Iranian and Hezbollah forces is a bit bizarre.
KILL them ALL!!! Russia should KILL them ALL , to the last one !!!
Mercs are dead men no matter what laws are quoted.
I suggest dresses and long lashes..
I have thought this as most likely reason why Kerry is so nervous. This looks like the last days of Saigon in 1975. I can still remember. Russia should make a deal but make Americans pay are very, very high price (Ukraine + Syria + gas pipeline deals to Europe etc…).
This US troopers are terrorist combatants and should face hanging. Perhaps it will keep the US scum out of other countries.