British soldiers with the Queen’s Royal Hussars conduct the Offensive Operations lane during the Strong Europe Tank Challenge, June 5, 2018. (Photo Credit: U.S. Army)
The United Kingdom is considering supplying Ukraine with Challenger 2 main battle tanks, Sky News reported on January 10.
A Western source with knowledge on the matter, discussions have been taking place “for a few weeks” about delivering a number of the British Army’s Challenger 2 tanks to Kiev forces. The government of Rishi Sunak is yet to make a decision, however.
Any announcement of new British military aid to Ukraine, such as tanks, will likely be made during the upcoming United States-led Contact Group meeting on January 20.
A Ukrainian source told Sky News that the UK could supply 10-12 Challenger 2 tanks to Ukraine. The source acknowledged that the few tanks won’t be a “game changer.” Yet, he noted that the step could help prompt other NATO allies, in particular Germany, to follow suit.
“It will be a good precedent to demonstrate [to] others – to Germany first of all, with their Leopards… and Abrams from the United States,” the source said.
Kiev asked its Western allies to supply main battle tanks, mainly German-made Leopard 2s, on several occasions since the start of the Russian special military operation.
The Challenger 2 entered service with the British military in the last 1990s. The main armament of the tank is the L30A1 120 mm rifled gun, which can fire APFSDS [armour-piercing fin-stabilized discarding-sabot], HESH [high explosive squash head] and white phosphorus smoke rounds. The tank is also equipped with a day/night capable computerized targeting system.
The 64-ton main battle tank is protected by a classified composite armour, known as Chobham. Explosive reactive armour kits and additional bar armour may be fitted. However, this would take the weight of the tank up to 75 tons.
Powered by a Perkins CV12-6A V12 diesel engine with 1,200 bhp, the Challenger 2 can reach a top speed of 40 kilometers off road and up to 59 kilometers on road.
386 Challenger 2 tanks were supplied to the British military, out of which only 227 are in service today. Supplying 10-12 of these tanks will not likely be a problem for the UK.
The U.S. has been pushing its allies to boost military support for Ukraine ahead of spring. Over the past week, Kiev was promised 50 U.S.-made Bradley and 40 German-made Marder infantry fighting vehicles as well as an undisclosed number of French-made AMX-10 RC wheeled light tanks. The new vehicles would only make up for a fraction of Ukraine’s armour losses.
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omeopathyc war, it seems. How many western tanks are REALLY efficient today? When Von the Liar was MoD in Germany, the % efficency of german weapons was about 25-30%.
It’s too late.
drop some torpedoes under the UK coast to provoke a Tsunami wave – bye bye UK
Today Ukrainian military did not want to surrender is took lead. I posted on my YouTube channel called colby kanter
How many? 2? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 It won’t help the situation, they’ll be destroyed or captured within days, then Russia will have access to your technology…..
They are modern MBT, if operatied gy good tankists, they can be serious. Good tankists are hard to instruct in such short time.
yes it is a good tank BETTER than the NAZI USA Abrams rubbish BUT one hypersonic missile and those tanks are deleted from the battlefield. =Z=
Not nearly enough time and not nearly enough in quantity to do the necessary job.
It’s a very expensive coffin.
When the Russians capture one of the “two” tanks they say they sent to Ukraine, when it would be over 100, because the UK gov’t never lies, studying the Challenger’s proprietary armor may be useful for the Russians to apply to their tanks. Then again, given they don’t want to kill all their soldiers so they don’t use depleted uranium, maybe not. The NATO countries consider their soldiers like Kissinger said, “…dump animals…cannon fodder…”
Btw, this is ANOTHER red line being crossed by NATO, when will Russia actually make good on their threatened punishments? They threatened France giving their light tanks, when will this World War be acknowledged by Russia? …after their defeat? Why again is Russia fighting to lose? Why did musicians shred the Ukrops but the reg Russian Army was playing paddy cake for 4 months before that? Is Putin being sandbagged by his own gov’t like Trump was his? or is Putin just another WEF puppet like all the other Klaus University graduates?
*Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy – Kissinger.
Maybe after 4 or 5 months of combat they weakened them enough for an assault.
Asi los rusos prueban y mejoran sus Kornet E
As if there wasn’t enough scrap metal available in Ukraine already.
They will send all the old stuff available in NATO warehouses and then some. Romania has ramped up production, APCs and IFV s are sent to Ukraine in packs of 10, 20 of them. All kinds of armored vehicles are repaired and modernized in Romania, too. Romanian munition is not that good, by the way.
The poms can’t get anyone to enlist so they might as well give their shit equipment away
haha what a joke. It takes 2 years to be able to operate a challenger 2 tanks effectively . when the hell would they train the ukies to do it? not to mention the weight of the tank and the maintenance needed. This is just an idiotic threat that nobody belives.
Unless you find the UK soldiers to go with them.
it took a month to deliver 10 leclerc 2 to Romania, due to poor roads, the bridges that can’t handle the tank weitgh and so on, and that is in a NATO country at peace . How the hell would u move heavy tanks without being noticed through ukraine at war? in order to be effective, even if operated by brit crews, they would need air cover, coms, integrated group tactics … its just not doable. Unless you just want to defend Lvov with them, and they are still in Ukraine technically …
Do not try to understand Romania.
Every foreign power should stay out of it. The Otoman turks never occupied those lands, they kept them under terror but used locals to l rule it. Germany had a very nasty surprise at August, 24,1944. Stalin was smart enough to take Soviet troops out. In ’68, USSR knew better than sending their troops in Romania… Romania cannot fight, Romanians are sick, that land will drag any foreign power like a swamp.
even though i am romanian, have to 100 % agree with you. We are the shittiest nation of them all …. always betraying allies, stabbing people in the back, cheating and stealing whatever we can and also fuck eachother and hate eachother , but thinking we are the “belly of the world” and nobody is better
“Allies”?! They were no allies, they were enemies from inside just like USA today. As USA is an “ally” for Ukraine pushing them to death for their dirty work. The German staff who had to provide food and ammo for Romanian units on Don told them “You, Romanians, belong to the graveyard, get the hell out of here!”… Such “allies” are worse than enemies. As the Soviet “allies” did to Romanian troops at Oarba of Mureș.
They should learn their lesson and stay out of Romania. Or they must be given new lessons…
10.000 KIA romanian casualties but finally it was a victory.
And I’m a romanian too, and I fully agree with you. A low level nation, or how I use to say: a gipsy-ed people like no other !
It’s no different than giving soldiers in WW1 a bunch of alcohol before going up over the trenches.
You don’t understand. Cocaine solves all these problems.
Cum not cummed? Please hurry the fuck up guys, pleeeease
1. With its additional side-armor it could hardly move in Iraq, let alone in the Ukrainian mud (before the Rasputitsa).
2. The only arsenal of these tanks is in Jordan, which is newly threatened by Syria with its 4th armored division now positioned on the Jordanian northern border.
Threatened by Syria??? Syria can’t even defend against a few militias on its own.
The British military don’t have enough challenger tanks to supply Ukraine with it’s just a bluff by the British government
NATO is giving their weapons away and Russia can check their technology when capturing their weapons.
The Russian engineers are in for some hilarious surprises in NATO technology. :)
The U.S is actually using the wholesaling of their military equipment to justify new procurement budgets.
Defence contractors are cashing in big with the replenishment of new assets for the U.S military branches and I think they could give a fuck if the stuff they’re sending over collects dust or gets blown to rat shit.
Either way Ukraine will be owned by the IMF and U.S creditors forever unless they decide to beg father Russia to return.
Mmmm, I seem to remember the super heavy German wonder tanks having great problems at the battle of Kursk.
The Challenger is not reliable and too heavy for the very deep topsoil and most bridges in Ukraine.
The tracks are vulnerable as well.
If the Challenger is too heavy, just wait for the 80t Abrams!
The Houthis have secret weapons to destroy Abrams tanks.
A gallon of diesel fuel and a Bic lighter:)
The only reason there are houthis is because saudi arabia has not decided to just bomb yemen into nothing. Yet.
Excellent ! Now put the Leopard 28.000$ reward also on them ! Or, maybe 30.000 to make a difference between the anglo-nazi shithole and the saxon-nazi shithole ! That is no more than an equal to the Leopard in its main characteristics and so they will have the same destiny as the Al Bab turk Leopards !!!!
Yes, I recall that ISIS destroyed Turk Leopard tanks.
Germany was not happy!
The Leopard 1 is completely obsolete, and the Leopard 2 rather overvalued. They still have a “Ladeschutze” (4th crew member) instead of a autoloader. A Sowjet T-72 can smoke them with its fast fire rate.
why? At 70 tons, just wait, it will break down by itself. They made the same mistake as the nazis, too big, too heavy, just driving it any distance will break it. Pay the fuel bill lol
If you though British cars were unreliable, poorly engineered junk, then wait till you try their military vehicles!
Monarchy is obsolete. Occupy the Fuckinghan palace
country 403 aka widows nation aka Ukronazistan about to collapse
Hey nigger, you cannot count. How would you know what is 403?
Oh no not 450 tanks!
Just so everyone understands, there are today at least 20,000 operable tanks in old soviet storages across the territories of the Russian federation.
NATO has kept no such cold-war storages, and even before christmas they were begging to buy Moroccos suply of old T-72s because they were completely out of anything but their prechious currently in-service modern tanks.
The idea that NATO can just keep throwing away their suplies and reach some kind of parity is moronic and completely irrational. Only escalation remains as a possible successful avenue for NATO.
right.
450? nope, even the brits themself confirm only 10 pcs!
because the whole british army have only a few dozents fully operational.
They will be destroyed easily by the new weapons Russia has already displayed and that is not even the use of the new weapons Russia has not revealed yet, one hypersonic missile and that tank is no more. All NAZI NATO weaponry needs to be destroyed the SECOND it crosses the border whilst still enroute i think the time has come to launch the offensive from the North and cut off Polands border from NAZI UKRAINE thus eliminating NAZI WEST from supplying NAZI UKRAINE after the offensive is launched and Polands border cut off then onwards to Odessa and thus landlocking NAZI UKRAINE and then onwards to NAZI KIEV to HANG THAT NAZI ZELENSKY and his cronies. =Z=
The Challenger 2 tank is severely challenged on the modern battle field! It does not even have an autoloader.and needs 4 crew members to fight. In a way it is obsolete like the Leopard 2. :)
Does it also need donkeys to propell it?
UK is all niggers and shitskins who pretend to be British. Like shitkins imbeciles living in Greece pretend to be Greek. They cannot produce anything, unless they find something in storage that was made eons ago.
We heard that all the UK can send are 2 units, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🇬🇧 Russian Lancet drones can’t wait…..