Syrian Army Reached Deir Ezzor City And Reportedly Broke ISIS Siege (Videos, Maps)

Yes sorry I didn’t clarify that with the Nth’s airforce which was also small in comparison, They did lose 1.000’s of choppers , there was something about that on a doco , maybe Oliver Stone’s Untold History of the United States. The loss of choppers / aircraft . equipment . muntions was what the war was about. Money in supplying by the war corporations was why they pushed for the war and possibly part of the reason Kennedy was removed as he was going too stop the war.
Didn’t Cheney have a big part of Halliburton which apart from the private army also provided the catering for Iraq which alone was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Wonder why he pushed Bush too go to war ?. I just looked it up and he/ Halliburton were awarded 39.5 Billion dollars in contracts for Iraq.He / they were the biggest private winners of 138 billion dollars for contractors in Iraq. For that sort of money I am sure he would have been happy to pay someone to remove Bush if he didn’t agree to go to war. Yeah , war is such fun..

Yes, your right, I misunderstood, sorry, your observations is ok.

The history of empires is always short they last no more than 2 centuries before they decay into themselves ,can’t use the same formula all the time it’s doomed to fail.

The 173rd out of Italy 4000 strong was the first US forces on the ground and deployed also in Iraq 2003. They were in Ukraine when it all began and didn’t respond because of Russian aggression, because there were no Russian little green men that was a blind by the US to cover for the US deployment of troops and prevent any Russian intervention in the US backed and stage managed coup.

So the “173rd airborne” are indeed American ?

Christ almighty, if so, how many times am I going to be wrong today ?.

Right, lets see how they fight against men as opposed to rag heads.

Apologies for the confusion.

They are the same ones that also took down Saddam’s statue and think they were arresting people in Fallujah for Md Dog Mattis. The NATO experts put these guys in the woefully outclassed and easily beaten category.

I knew I had heard of them before; thanks for the response.

I read about this “Mad Dog Mattis” last night …. he comes across as well strong, admired, but sort of insane….. but I am not a military man, so maybe they are the qualities required – https://www.businessinsider.nl/general-mattiss-best-quotes-2016-11-2/?international=true&r=US

This man is an a–hole number one and one of those nutjobs who should never serve in the military.None of those qualities are wanted or needed he was a Jrotc not your regular military academy trained. Their have been far better Generals in the military but they don’t play ball well.

The Ukraine was mix of Communism Jews and Nazi Jews which during WW2 they fought each other in Ukraine the small area it was at the time. Most of the territory was added from several countries to protect the small Jewish population there. They have been for decades to turn this into the New Khazarian Empire , many Jews have been moving there recently.

I have heard a lot of talk about Jews moving to Ukraine, but to be honest, it is all outside of my understanding at the moment. Is it for the new European Israel ?, another Israel ? or an alternative to Israel ?.

I get fed up about hearing of them and I certainly have no negativity or even positivity over them.

An interesting article by Mr. Cook. My take on how to proceed is with UNSC Chapter 7 enforcement resolutions for the UNSC Chapter 6 Resolution 2334 and all of the other resolutions that Israel is violating. And to extinguish the exemption that Jews have for mass raping many of their children at birth, 3,600 a year in New York City and 65,000 a year in Israel, and infecting, brain damaging and killing some of them with venereal and other disease in the process. And to outlaw their pedophile rape cult that condones and has these vile blood sucking ceremonies as an ingrained and official part of it’s practices. Anyone else doing this would be prosecuted for multiple felony and misdemeanor crimes. The Jews should as well.

Sorry I gave the wrong author.
I always associate that surperb site with Robert Parry.
You only had to look at the e mails released by Julian Assange re Pizzagate – to see there is a shocking and hideous problem with paedophilia in the elite US ranks.
However to me that is a seperate issue to Syria.
Horrible, with overtones of satanism, and I am sure you are correct in all you write – but it must be dealt with as an important issue on its own.
Meanwhile let us hope the good news from Deir Ez Zor continues to pour in.

If the main force has secured a land transportation route into the western side of the city, there may not be any roads and it may be over open desert. That’s what it looks like from the maps that I’ve looked at. They can move supplies in with all wheel drive high ground clearance vehicles at 5 to 10 miles per hour over open ground. I’m sure that they’re working on securing paved roads and possibly putting in some dirt roads as an intermediary step.

What they can do under those circumstances, and probably are doing, is moving motorized rifle companies and heavy weapons into the part of the city that they control. And are beginning clear and hold operations to expand that and to capture adjacent important locations that aren’t contiguous, but are important to the overall success of the mission. And that can be made contiguous over time as the enemy is driven out.

Wikileaks has to be a front for an intel agency or agencies. Mossad, CIA and MI6 are likely candidates. Some of what’s being released may be and probably is true. But it’s also politically motivated to serve the purposes of the agencies running the operations.

Elements of Judaism and Satanism reportedly have a nexus that goes back thousands of years. Public “legal” mass rape of infants is probably Judaism “light”, Kabbalah black rituals involving ceremonial cannibalism, the worst forms of pedophilia, and human sacrifice torture murders is reportedly Judaism dark. There is so much evil that the Jews are involved in, that I’m assuming that there’s quite a bit of truth to some of the satanism and pedophilia information released by Wikileaks.

Thanks for that.
I have rather more faith in JUlian Assange than you.
Hope to God I am right.
But anyone who has any faith at all in most US and British intel is in la la land.
The only God they do not appear to serve – is the christian one.

I don’t see how a lot of the information that Wikileaks is publishing could have all been obtained by hacking. It’s clearly being deliberately leaked by people in government in my opinion. If that’s the case, then Wikileaks is either working directly with intel agencies, is part of an intel agency itself, or is an independent organization simply publishing what it’s receiving anomalously with no interaction with the source of the leaks. If you agree with these observations, then you have to make your own determination exactly what type of organization Wikileaks actually is.

Another thing that’s clear to me, is that somebody in government positions is running cover for Wikileaks to keep it operational. The last thing that Wikileaks and Julian Assange is and are from my perspective. Is an independent organization receiving highly classified and political information anonymously that it is then publishing as it sees fit. So if your faith in Mr. Assange is based on that premise, you might want to reevaluate it.

There also the issue of funding, who is paying for all of this? Again is it all independent, or is there government funding involved?

“The Wau Holland Foundation helps to process donations to WikiLeaks. In July 2010, the Foundation stated that WikiLeaks was not receiving any money for personnel costs, only for hardware, travelling and bandwidth.[116] An article in TechEye stated:
As a charity accountable under German law, donations for WikiLeaks can be made to the foundation. Funds are held in escrow and are given to WikiLeaks after the whistleblower website files an application containing a statement with proof of payment. The foundation does not pay any sort of salary nor give any renumeration [sic] to WikiLeaks’ personnel, corroborating the statement of the site’s former German representative Daniel Schmitt [real name Daniel Domscheit-Berg][117] on national television that all personnel works voluntarily, even its speakers.[116]
However, in December 2010 the Wau Holland Foundation stated that 4 permanent employees, including Julian Assange, had begun to receive salaries.”

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How is it that a government licensed organization is funneling cash into an organization involved in highly illegal activity, yet no one is being prosecuted or held accountable for the myriad of laws being violated? It doesn’t make sense. The only plausible explanation in my opinion is that Wikileaks is operating with government permission and control. Which makes Mr. Assange and his organization, if it even is his, a government operation by any practical definition of the term. And the primary part of the government that deals in the type of information that Mr. Assange is a purveyor of, is the intel agencies. And the ones that I’d start looking at first are the CIA, Mossad and MI6.

Wikileaks has more info than hackers.
It has many brave and courageous people putting their lives on the line and the threat of life imprisonment – to leak out the info that we the people need to know.
Edward Snowden – one of the heroes of the modern world.
Chelsea Manning….
Sybil Edmonds
And many others.

The difference is that everyone on your list as far as I know, with the exception of Wikileaks, actually is someone acting independently of government. I don’t think that any of them were providing the information in collaboration with government.

Wikileaks looks to be much different. The scope and volume of information being provided to the public could only occur with the active, ongoing and collaborative participation of people in government at very high levels with a lot of security clearance and administrative responsibility. I don’t see any way that it could be anything other than a high level intel operation.

Any independent organization releasing the type and volume of information that Wikileaks is, without government sanction, would be quickly shut down, it’s revenue source cut off, and the people involved prosecuted. None of that is happening with Wikileaks that I’m aware of. With the exception of Mr. Assange. And his legal troubles are for rape, not violating national security laws.

They were acting for the government.
The rape charges have been dropped.
They were always bogus.
He can’t get out because the UK government is wanting to arrest him on a completely scurrilous charge – in order to deport him to the USA where he will face life imprisonment.
Julian Assange is a courageous and hunted man.

You have a different take on it than I do then. I don’t think that Manning, Edmonds and Snowden were working with intel agencies to release information. From what I’ve seen they were acting on their own as independent whistle blowers to expose what they thought the public should know.

Assange and Wikileaks on the other hand, is deeply involved with intel agencies doing their bidding from what I can see. Whether they’re employees, independent contractors or collaborators I don’t know. But I think that for all practical purposes the net effect is that Wikileaks is an intel front for disseminating information that they feel furthers their objectives.

Governments aren’t monoliths and there can be factional infighting. I think that’s the cause of Assange’s problems. He’s an expendable fall guy that was jettisoned when the heat got turned up to much, or he wasn’t cooperating, or probably a combination of both. He may believe in what he’s doing. But he’s also deeply involved in intel work and is doing the agencies bidding for them. Or Wikileaks would have never reached the level of development that it has.

Yes of course they were.
Whistleblowers.
So is Assange in a big big way.
In fact he could be called the whistle – he provides the platform.

Yes they’re all whistle blowers, Assange included. If you have information showing that Edmonds, Snowden and Manning were working with intel agencies to get the information out, I’d like to see it. Because so far I haven’t. Assange on the other hand looks to be clearly working with intel agencies doing their bidding. His platform wouldn’t exist without substantial government complicity. I don’t think that there was government complicity with Manning, Edmonds and Snowden. With Assange there is.

He’s providing information that the government, or elements of it, wants out. No element of government wanted or helped facilitate the release of information from Snowden, Manning or Edmonds. They’re real whistle blowers, not intel fronts. Assange is substantially an intel front made to look like an independent whistle blower, when he’s not. At best he’s a combination of both. Releasing what the intel agencies want out, while releasing other material in the process that the he wants out that the intel agencies may not want out. Which is probably part of the reason why he’s having the trouble that he is.

All of them were working FOR intel agencies.
The agencies themselves are beyond the pale.
Collective treasonous scum.

It looks like Snowden, Manning and Edmonds broke with the agencies to get the information out against what the agencies wanted. Assange on the other hand is working closely with or for them to get the information that they want out out while still providing a shield of plausible deniability for the people leaking it. The people running the agencies didn’t sanction what Snowden, Edmonds and Manning did. They’re running much or all of what Assange is doing. That’s the difference. Which is why I don’t put as much credibility in the Wikileaks material. Because a lot of it or all of it is deliberately staged by elements of the government itself for public consumption. It’s a con job, and the material may be or is compromised.

I don’t think Assange is working with any agencies – he gets his stuff from whistleblowers.
Where you got the idea he works with intel agencies I am not sure.
Could you tell us?

Because I don’t think that he’d be allowed to do what he’s doing without government complicity. If the government wasn’t running interference for him, he’d have been shut down long ago.

He is loathed by governments.
The USA is passing a bill through Congress naming him basically an enemy intel agency.
He is being categorised as an ‘Enemy of the State’.

They have every intent to get him to the USA, try him and imprison him for life.
That is why he is holed up in the Ecuadorean Embassy.
It has just been suggested that the attack on the Russian diplomatic premises is a softener up for them to raid the Ecuadorean Embassy and drag him out.
Never underestimate the destructive force, violence and illegality of the US government.

He’s funded at least in part by a German government licensed entity. He uses the Rothchild’s law firm. Wikileaks would have never gotten to the stage that it’s at without government support. No charges have ever been filed for a single crime. When there’s a long paper and money trail to follow. That doesn’t happen without government complicity.

Allegations such as these they use to smear people like Assange.
How true they are I cannot say – I am sure you are very genuine in your concerns.
However – there is no question that he is not doing governments any favours.
And I have to judge from what he does rather than covert suggestions which may or may not be true.
I am with Edward Snowden and Julian Assange and what they have done to expose the shocking state of affairs ….
To me they are modern day heroes.

You’re ignoring a lot with Assange that I’m not willing to ignore. Maybe he’s being thrown under the bus now that he’s become to much of a problem. But for Wikileaks to have operated at the level that it has with impunity for as long as it has can only be because of government complicity. And Assange ran the organisation for years. He was clearly feed leaks by insiders. 99% of whom have never been prosecuted. Do you honestly believe that the government doesn’t know who these people are? I don’t.

He has not operated with impunity.
He has been hounded, falsely accused and virtually imprisoned for years.
He is in fear of his life.
He has been holed up in a small embassy.
If that is what you get fronting up for governments and their intel services – heavens help a real whistleblower.
I think you you are wrong about Assange but time will tell.
We must agree to differ.

Sure, they’re going after him now, no disagreement there. But what about Wikileaks? It keeps churning out massive stolen and leaked material on an almost daily basis. That doesn’t happen without government complicity. I don’t know how anyone could ignore that, it’s so obvious that elements of the government are doing it.

I think we are all right.There is a little con job on us,there is alittle factional infighting,there are some honest brave individuals and maybe assange is a tool of some intelligence agency.who cares? As long as some truth comes our way for whatever reason , i am happy.let the reader beware and make their own minds up.After all that is why we are all on this site commenting to the world,right?

Yes, that’s right. For me I never took much of an interest in the Wikileaks material. Because it was clear that it was a front for intel and not an independent whistle blower operation. Not much different than the msm. Just with no official rubber stamp on it. The Manning, Edmonds and Snowden stuff looks genuine. The Wikileaks stuff, I’m not so sure. Some I’m sure is, but some is questionable and may be a fabrication or diversion. So I use my time on other matters.

Too right Emily.I remember when it first happened a group called ” women against rape” came out screaming and marching in the streets demonstrating on his behalf! They knew it was unfair and untrue and as obviously brave and intelligent women did not want their organisation besmirched with this frame job.

Of the two rape victims ,one was proven to be a cia plant in the circles Assange moves and the other had a complete breakdown due to guilt and said she was pressured into making those statements.

Have you ever seen women against rape ever supporting an alleged rapist before? I never did until then.I knew then that i wasnt being easy on Assange.

Yes ,certainly brave at great cost to themselves.The pen is certainly mightier than the sword.As the famous author HG wells once said,in dark times it is those who tell the truth who are hunted and persecuted or something like that.

They do need the oil but Israel wont release it in a time soon.I remember something about Israel formally annexing it a few years ago? Also US Big oil including Genie energy / Noble energy have bought lots of rights to it.Murdoch owns alot of those shares and I think kissinger ?and cheney? Also Golan is seen as strategic by Israel.Being on the heights they do not want to give up this military advantage.

Israel has never cared what UN has to say about anything for a very long time and as long as US NATO is big friend it wont change soon .

Might is not always right.
Certainly in this instance.
I get your point, thanks.
But things are changing in the Middle East.
With Iraq, Iran, Syria and Lebanon – all well armed and fighting fit and pretty furious about things – maybe Israel would be wise to respect international law and surrender what is clearly and legally part of Syria and parts of Lebanon too..
See the article I posted just before.
It looks like Israel is getting the picture.
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/09/01/the-reasons-for-netanyahus-panic/

Heard the US has to start making concessions in regards to Israel if they want to keep NATO allies from leaving and every demand by the UN will be met. They are working on the Two state solution but with Israel all of those territories they claimed will be ceded back to all the original owners and all Settlements will be turned over to the Palestinians. This is for the continued support in the Middle East and Financial support to the US ,but like Israel the US can’t be trusted.

The company Cheney and all of them are involved in ,is AFEK HQ in New York City, CEO positions and board positions for this illustrious group.