Syra, Russia & Turkey Agree on Joint Military Operation to Recapture Al-Bab City – Reports

So what about the Syrian government? It’s only by their permission that Russian forces are legally there. Buy leaving them out, the Russians are undermining the Syrian government’s position at the bargaining table!

South Front; Is Jabhat Fateh al-sham in Al Bab? You may be referring to another operation or plan.

This is ISIS occupied al Bab. Yet the opposition is described as Nusra (alQaida).

Nusra fighters and ISIS fighters are interchangeable. The two coordinate their offensives against the SAA, their fighters constantly move to either side as needed, and they bring their weaponry with them. In this case they brought considerable expertise in ATG weapons. The command structure may be different, but they share the same taqfiri ideology and share the same goal of erasing indigenous religions in syria , including islamic ones, with a saudi salafism.

Islam has major division into sects, primarily sunni and shia.
Each sect is divided into schools of jurisprudence. These schools interpret sharia laws and can range from liberal, like the Maliki of North africa, to conservative like the hanbali of saudi arabia.
Each school has movements, the hanbali school is famous for two movements, the 18th century wahhabi movement and the 20th century salafist movement. Not all followers of a school follow a movement.

The wahhabi movement was a reaction to the spread of shia sect in arabia. The saudi royal family was founded on the wahhabi movement and they reversed the spread of shia in favor of sunni islam. The hanbali clergy supported by the kingdom enforce the movement to this day.

Salafism is the extremely rigid form of Islam originating in saudi arabia in the 20th century as a reaction against the ottoman young turks movement (which wanted to liberalize society and remove the influence of religion in government). Salafist are reactionary. They only represent a fraction of saudi’s muslims, but starting in the 1980s they began to be more influential with the saudi monarchy and have been given considerable support in state sponsored clergy since they are seen as natural enemies of any wahhabi that want more liberal politics. By endorsing a more conservative movement the monarchy can tighten their grip on power. Anyone petitioning for reform can be declared to be immoral.

Taqfiri is the more extreme form of salafism that says all other muslims must be forcefully converted to salafism or be killed as apostates. Taqfiris originated with alqaida in the 1990s, with encouragement from the saudi government to recruit muslim mercenaries to wage war on other muslim countrise to set up pro-saudi theocracy and expand saudi arabia’s sphere of influence.

Syria, is majority sunni muslim, and their school of Islam is hanafi. The saudis do not consider hanafi true muslims, and want to re-write the Islam in syria by installing a theocracy that mirrors saudi arabia (without the benefit of trillions of oil dollars to placate an oppressed populace). The result would be to turn syria into another taleban run afghanistan. Taleban means student, their teachers were the state sponsored saudi clergy.

Time for the Neocons in the U.S. to howl that this is awful because we weren’t there to call the shots. After all, a rules based world order means that the U.S. has to authorize every troop movement on the planet. I really hate those jerks, all they care about is power while braying about freedom.

Why not go for Deir Hafer instead? That would cut the ISIS supply lines.

I personally doubt this information… Sounds more like rumor thrown as a provocation to cast some mess among Turkish supported armed terrorist groups.