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In recent weeks there’s been reports that Russian MiG-29 fighter jets have “destroyed” US-made MIM-23 Hawk medium-range surface-to-air missile defense system.
This likely relates to two separate incidents.
On July 5th, the Government of National Accord (GNA) reported that a MiG-29 fighter jet from Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar’s Libyan National Army (LNA), attacked the newly-captured al-Watiya airbase.
The airbase was quickly turned into a Turkish military base and a MIM-23 Hawk was quickly deployed, alongside other equipment.
Reportedly, and according to a video, a MiG-29 destroyed the American-made system.
Separately, Russian-made MiG-29 fighters at the end of July destroyed the American-developed MIM-23 Hawk medium-range anti-aircraft missile systems located near the city of Sirte in Libya, according to Polish outlet Defense24.
The publication notes that the operators of the complex were the Turkish military, and its elimination made it possible to prevent the attack on the city by the forces of the GNA, supported by Turkey.
According to Defense24, the MIM-23 Hawk was unable to detect the MiG-29, since the latter were probably used against the former by electronic warfare systems. The publication admits that the planes were piloted by Russian pilots.
“Thus, this may be another proof that the MiG-29 aircraft still have a very high combat potential if they are equipped with modern precision weapons and are piloted by well-trained pilots,” outlet concluded.
Other outlets, however, reported that the MiG-29 fighter jet didn’t destroy the MIM-23, but during one of the sorties, a battle took place between Haftar’s aviation and air defense systems deployed in the vicinity of Sirte, delivered from Turkey.
According to one of the media versions, the fighters came under fire from Turkish short-range air defense systems but were able to evade anti-aircraft missiles.
Subsequently, Libyan artillery fire was opened on the identified air defense positions, the installations were destroyed. According to another version, the fighters were not noticed in time by air defense systems. This allowed the fighters to strike at the positions of the Turkish troops and destroy several anti-aircraft installations.
This is in line with a report by US African Command saying that a batch of military aircraft was delivered to Libya from Russia. According to photos published by the Pentagon, the Libyan troops of Marshal Haftar received MiG-29 fighters and Su-24 frontline bombers.
In addition, the MiG-29 fighters are used by the armed forces of Egypt, whose government actively supports Haftar and opposes the presence of Turkish troops in Libya. According to experts, the Egyptian Air Force uses fighters of the MiG-29M / M2 modification, which can be used to strike at ground targets.
But it is unlikely that Egypt carried out an attack such as this, since they are still actively conducting diplomacy behind the scenes.
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As I said the Turkeys are in strife all over the region now. Can’t fly like a hawk if you are a Turkey.
Erdogollum overestimated his capebilities, he wanted to resurrect the ottoman empire but has to fight against Russia, Lybia , France, UAE.
We had discussed the goat fuckers delusions before, the Turkeys would have been kaput way earlier if Sissy’s nuts had dropped. But I think the Russians and others are in good shape in central Libya now. BTW, the Turkish economy is totally fucked, their toilet paper lira fell 18% in one day.
Indeed.
They are almost as talented as “Saudisis” trolls.
The EU vassals don’t like them, the French hate them and their Americunt masters are dying in the streets like viral mutts, so perhaps Putin’s strategy may work, first inflate the goat fuckers ego, bog him down in multiple fronts and then bleed them. As I keep repeating, Turkey is an deadbeat third world shithole with huge problems and internal strife with Kurds, Christians and Shia Alevis. If the sanctions are lifted Iran can overtake the Turkey’s economy in a year.
I agree.
Also lets not forget the fact that Turks are born backstabbers.
No question, immoral arseholes, did you read the Plato’s Guns article by Taxi on how the Zionists and Americunts are using the dumbass Anatolian peasants as cannon fodder for their proxy wars with Wahhabi petro-pimps dollars.
Not yet, but thanks will read it.
And its nothing new, Turks have been used as cannonfodder since WWI.
Im sure you are aware about what ignited the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, the U.S. usually leaves out the part where they deployed nuked tipped Jupiter missiles to Turkey, Soviets responded to that by deploying nukes to Cuba.
JFK negotiated with Krustchev, the U.S. would pull their jupiter missiles if Soviets pull theirs from Cuba, so they made a deal, but there was a catch, the U.S. was only willing to sign the deal if the whole part with the Jupiter missiles was kept a secret, and it was, hence why most people still dont know about it and MSM will never mention it albeit its no top secret anymore.
Turks could have remained neutral in WW1.
Thre we go again. Another joke form You. Comic Ali was funny but were also exucuted…
Their GDP and military potential dont say that at all.
Joke again. Thank You ha ha.
BREAKING NEWS; Zionist cowardly cunts panic again
False rocket alarm sounds in northern Israel along Lebanon border as a Hezbollah drone over flies Metulla in Northern Occupied Palestine.
BREAKING NEWS; Zionist cowardly cunts panic again
False rocket alarm sounds in northern Israel along Lebanon border as a Hezbollah drone over flies Metulla in Northern Occupied Palestine.
I may be paranoid but they did this false alarm BS before the Beirut incident, they also said they would never ever hit Hezbollah.
I dont by the fertilizer story, in my humble opinion they hit an underground Iranian base at the harbour with a tactical nuke tipped bunker buster, most the explosion was absorbed by the ground.
Iran said just a week that they have underground bases all around the coastal regions, maybe they had one in Beirut too.
But if thats the case Mossad had already a coverup ready to dish up to the sheeple.
Somebody is playing a very dangerous game.
That was an act of war.
Very impressing with no radiation.
Did you measure it…?
Yes I did. None would be there, if there was.
Very logical as always Jens…
The economic situation in Egypt is the prime reason for Sissy´s contention. Egypt can´t aford a war with Turkey in Libya and besides, they are preparing for one with Ethiopya.
10%
Don’t think so, Ethiopian military is more battle tested and nationalistic. Egypt is a vassal failed state and will not fight anyone with Americunt and Zionist approval. Ethiopia has already put a dam on the Nile and water flow will be reduced gradually. Egypt is a net food importer and has a history of bread riots and much worse is coming.
The Ottomans also died of incompetence and over-stretch. Turkey is a poor country, their rural areas are more under-developed that the poorest Armenian village. Some still don’t even have electricity or paved roads.
Fluffy cookies! Zio, you made me laugh! ROFL! The best joke of the week!
PS At my point Turkey must much more hardly cooperate with Russia and Iran to establish a long term peace in the region. Hope there are enough military officers in the Turkish army who think this way too.
Joke couched in fact, you can’t get any better than that :) Turkeys can’t soar like Eagles and that is the truth. Erdogan has gutted their officer corps by sacking and imprisoning more than 1300 senior grade officers. That is three times the total attrition of the Iranian Artesh (military) high command after the 1979 revolution. Turkeys are stacked with chickenhawks loyal to Erdogan and the Wahhabist AKP.
Thats equivalent of s200
More of a medium range, the new Russian and Iranian S-200 are far more powerful with over 75 kms range with boosters. Hawk is Vietnam era point defence like a Tor 1.
S-200V “Vega” has 240 km range. It’s missile weight 7 tons.
S-200D – 300 km and 8 tons. Mass of warhead – over 200 kilogramms.
Indeed, the newer versions are far more powerful and long range. Even the Iranian Sayyad 3 (Hunter) can now fly 150kms. I have seen the Hawk operate in my day, not a very effective system was trailer towed back then and not self-propelled like Russian/Soviet SA-6, which was far superior.
S200 are “Vietnam” age too. They did well.
Nice one.
I have just mentioned a Stalkerzone article, on another SFO article. Which randomly can go with the above, if you are a Russian Mercenary, going to Libya or Syria, via Istanbul. Seriously check out who is asking for your services.
“The Arrest of 33 Russians in Minsk Turned Out To Be A Provocation Of The Ukrainian Security Services”
stalkerzone.org
Live lab testing of Russian ARM anti-radiation missiles. (Kh-58 or 31?)
I think it was the airstrike vs Misrata base where a huge fire was reported and posted image.
I’m not sure why, but I tend to discard the American version on principle
Americunts are such desperate stupid cunts that they are flooding Russian and Iranian phone users with paranoid bullshit as the deadbeat Pimpeo viral arseholes die in the streets homeless https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8094192e1e953cb8de0ec102645a47aa48fb514ec5f0834c5e832d70b8f459a1.jpg .
Russian and Iranian citizens are receiving text messages hyping a $10
million bounty the US State Department has offered for information on
anyone interfering in US elections on behalf of foreign governments.
Desperate much?
Nothing strange in that kind of try. Its a worldwiew problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ax2LzBkqrw
Another one? First photo is Su-24. Some say that first attack was done by UAE’s “Mirage-2000”. MiGs could by egyptian.
The Russian really going to be in Libya as they’re in Syira ?or is it just minor support and supplies, Haftar can’t be trusted he’s worked with both the Americans and the USSR, the guy flip flops a lot
Haftar is a Kaddafi era old guy but pro-Russia and anti-Turkey, so this is good investment.
They were rivals with Kaddafi. Haftar was a commander of failed operation in Chad. Kaddafi blamed him for this loss.
The second. Support for money and may be for military base in future.
Looks like Wagner Group is going to whup some Turkish ass.
There is no “Vagner”, “Bach” or “Mozart” groups, it’s the fruit of liberal MSM. But of course there are other groups of private guards (not mercenaries).
Good job Comrades.
CIA trolls and hasbarats will cry and rage :)
Libya is turning into a battle lab for air warfare
https://www.defensenews.com/smr/nato-air-power/2020/08/06/libya-is-turning-into-a-battle-lab-for-air-warfare/
Let’s hope the S-300 are finally used and few F-16 Turkeys bite the dust.
When you say ”did not challenge them” can you be more specific?
Cause every time they violate Greek FIR they get ”challenged”.
They get a Greek F16 or Mirage 2000 on their ‘6’ every time, and every time they desperately look for the compass that points to the east to run like rabbits with tails up their bottom! EVERY TIME!
Unless you mean the Greeks did not shoot them down… Uncle Sam wouldn’t like that very much if that was to happen you see.
Do not fall for that big mouthed Shia agent provocations.
The name of his game is to be provocative against all possible enemies of the Turks to steer the shit (except when it comes to his beloved Iran )
So in his eyes everybody is coward for not declaring war to Turks
( except all Shia Muslims and Assad )
But I am sure that when Turk drones have killed Iranians than he didn’t say anything about the Iran declaring the war to Turks.
Actually Iran is in bed with Turks just as much as Russia and I don’t even say they shouldn’t be. They must protect their own country interests like every normal country and not replace their interests with Assad’s.
Where are you from? you are an idiot BTW, just post nonsense. Have you been to Iran or Russia?
That’s exactly what I have impression of you words, reading what you wrote.
Explain yourself first, why “nonsense” than we will go from there.
PS.
I migh’t be an idiot , but judging by your confused sentence I don’t have impression that you are capable to see any of that.
Greece would be in its rights to shoot them down. Armenia would down Turkish bandits in a second without an after thought.
Αrmenia wouldn’t down nothing without Putin’s authorisation first, be real.
Greece should have enough balls to act without Americunt masters approval. Independent nations act on their own if their national interests are threatened. The Turkeys are cowards and even one F-16 is downed they will backdown. The problem is that everyone is coddling the arseholes. Even a superpower can not fight on 5 multiple fronts, but sadly they have not yet paid the price as Putin is kissing Erdogan’s arse on a full time basis. If Russia had declared an NO FLY ZONE in Syria from day one, the terrorism and Turkeys illegally flying over Syrian airspace would have long stopped. Egypt is the same, can’t do anything without Americunt and Zionist masters approval.
”Independent nations” … that title alone is a theme for a big discussion right there!
What are real Independent nations in this day and age.
How many and who are they?
If you are part of a bigger alliance are you really independent, whether its a military and / or an economic alliance…
And can we go back in the time before ww2 and even ww1 where nations were in deed independent, or to be more precise : states were independent.
Or does the future not got any space for independent states / nations any more …?
The UK begs to differ …
Its definetely Not a ”black OR white” matter, its complicated.
Can someone explain to me why they show a photo of a Su-24 and not the MiG-29?