Eugene Prigozhin and PMC Wagner fighters during the liberation of Soledar
The public conflict of the head of PMC Wagner Eugene Prigozhin and the Defense Ministry of Russia seems to be heating up amid the developing operation to liberate the town of Bakhmut (also known as Artemovsk) in the Donetsk People’s Republic.
In recently published audio messages, Prigozhin directly accuses top officials of the Defense Ministry in not providing enough ammunition and logistical assistance to PMC Wagner fighters involved in the battle of Bakhmut.
The translation of the 1st audio message:
As for the supply of ammunition to the Wagner PMC, – Akhmat, some other units have shared what they could. Generals who are around the leadership of the Russian military grouping sign documents for which afterwards they can be put in a jail cell by the Military Prosecutor’s Office, just to provide us [PMC Wagner] with ammunition, which we get directly from the wheels. At the same time, the Chief of General Staff and the Minister of Defense are giving orders to not only stop providing PMC Wagner with ammunition, but not even help us with air transport. Now I received information that they had even cancelled distribution of sapper shovel, so the guys could entrench themselves up. There is simply a direct opposition, which is called nothing else but an attempt to eliminate the Wagner PMC. This can be considered equal to treason against the Motherland. This comes at a time when the Wagner PMC is fighting for Bakhmut, losing hundreds of its fighters every day.
The translation of the 2nd audio message:
The Wagner PMC is not provided with ammunition. Why do other units also have a constant shortage of ammunition? Because a bunch of military functionaries decided that it is their country, it is their people. They decided that people will die when it suits them, when they would like. So instead of doing their duty and giving as much ammunition as we need, say, – keep it +20%, just don’t make any more fuss. They sit giggling in their offices and try to spin intrigue, call up telegram channels and say, – don’t publish Prigozhin [statements] or [if you publish] write that he eats this ammunition or sells to Americans or something like that. I have no options, I go all the way, I have people dying by the dozen because some strange persons made the decision to let them live or not live. This is not a revolutionary call, this is a demand to provide us with ammunition! I can no longer write various statements and appeals on paper, no one reads them!
This is not the first time when Prigozhin makes critical statements towards representatives of the defense ministry. Since the start of the Russian military operation in Ukraine, Prigozhin has repeatedly criticized actions of Russian military officials.
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This is serious. It appears this problem has been there for quite some time now. If the unity and trust between Russia’s fighting forces has deteriorated to this level, how can they win the war? Wagner is not only important for Russia in Ukraine but also Syria, Libya, and other African countries. Looks like Russia has bitten off more than it can chew with all these interventions. Suppose the Syrian situation flares up again? there are reports of America building a new proxy army in Syria. Suppose the Libyan civil war resumes?
This is the second time i read about “the Wagner PMC is fighting for Bakhmut, losing hundreds of its fighters every day” in a more or less “official” news channel.
Emphasis lies on…
1. ONLY the Wagner PMC
2. ONLY fighting at Bakhmut (at that tiny section of the front)
3. losing HUNDREDS EVERY DAY
4. running OUT OF AMMO
5. the russian leadership at the highest positions of the government trying everything they are able to SUPPRESS support for the fighters at the front.
To be honest, i do not really buy point 5: I rather believe that the russian military industry is simply at its limit, not able to sustain the war without REAL mobilization of the economy of the country for warfare.
Good points. I also think Eugene wants to make pressure so his boys get the ammo they need. I don’t think that ammo is withheld just so. Rather, there will be some shortage. Not surprisingly. It‘s, on contrary, impressive how well Russia does… but they’re using an awful lot of ammunition. He stresses Bakhmut because it’s such an important place. I do think Russia can mange, but there will be difficulties in supply. Support from other countries would be important.
If that “losing hundreds of it’s fighters every day” is true then it’s a disaster! Does Ukrotards lose that many men in Bakhmut each day or do they lose many times more in the Russian meat grinder?
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Already lost, cock sucker ! The last road was captured yesterday, as Verkovka fall, Grodnoe and Dobovo-Vasilovka are now stormed ! I mean asphalt main road used by wheeled vehicles, and not back country tracked vehicle ones…..stupid nazi piece of shit. A proper supply CANNOT be DONE with tracked vehicles, as all war academies know that. So, sorry arsehole about your fucktards bandera friends inside Backmut: the clock ticks !!!!
…it ticks, but not only in Artemovsk.
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This public infighting needs to be curtailed immedietly before your enemy siexzes upon it
Ne znam šta je istina,ali uvijek je problem sa administrativnim aparatima, pogotovo kada vide da je ovaj učinkovit na terenu.Sirotinja sinove,država topove,bogati volove.Putin mora napraviti čistku u zapovjednom kadru, dovesti mlade i sposobne oficire.Neki ljudi ne shvataju da ih je vrijeme pretralo, ali zato glupostima utiču na rat.
I don’t believe this article I think this is war propaganda.
I believe its to make the banderites counterattack where they want them to do and then “surprise we got some ammo left”.
Now that’s what I call brilliant thinking.
I’d really hope it was that instead of real! I don’t know, I just hope.
If you have no ammunition then how are you putting up offensive maneuvers? If you have no ammunition then you should digg-in in a defensive positions, you shouldn’t be sending people to die in vain for lack of ammo, and should not try to be the center of attention sacrificing your men to say that you are the MVP.. Stick to the Russian chain of command and stop being so damn war gullible..
They have no shovels either. The officials are far away. In war, you need to work with resources at hand.
why would complaints by Wagner PMC, if any at all not common during war, go public? This report sounds suspicious. Wagner losing hundreds of fighters everyday? Read some of comments of those that accept this story without question as they serve the old anti Russia mentality.
No, no, no. On the contrary, if such conflicts are brought out and talked about, that’s actually progress. It breaks with the aparachik mentality. A friend will point out shortcomings in order to achieve the common goal. Every administration has its problems. Supporting Russia doesn’t mean idealizing everything. They‘ll sort it out in the end.
Whatever it is, the lack of due actions, sitting on the fence and pussyfooting tells it own story.
Yep, the propagandists can’t even get his name right. I suppose they’re talking about Yevgeny Prigozhin’s younger, poorer brother, Eugene.
Daily Mail is stating he is accusing the Head of the Russian Defence of treason. The Daily Mail still believes in the Ghost of Kiev and fully paid up media member of Integrity Initiative. I assume this article comes from the same propaganda unit.
I am sorry for butting into affairs but the only way Russia as whole will survive is if it stands together, all of you. You do not have time for infighting put that on the back burner until this war is over. They (the West will use this to divide, conquer and destroy you. If they succeed in that objective they will show you no mercy and will eliminate everyone who can stand in their way of what they want and oppress the weak. On that day God forbid if it comes none of this squabbling will matter and you will only have yourselves to blame.
PS Do not make the same mistakes the USSR did please. I am praying for Russia to overcome this.
The USA get this present from all their enemys everytime. Some twinsted good seems to help them divide everyone else …
The russian military will make sure the wagner end like givi, motorala amd sacharchenko.
They can’t have those outsiders be more successfull than the glorious russian armed forces.
Which are only good at parading on the red square…
More ammunitions for PMC Wagner! Now!
I bet that is a classic russian mashkirovka.
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Igual esta nota me parece falsa aunque he visto ya un cierto numero de mensajes iguales en canales rusos.. Si PMC Wagner pierde protagonismo entonces puede que sea cierto lo que Progizin dice.
Russia ministry of Defense has been for long time run by incompetent people. Putin and Russia ministry of Defense better careful what they wish for. PMC Wagner can wake away one they and Russia operation in UA will collapse and UA and NATO will walk in to Russia. Maybe Moscow.
Eugene? Who the fuck is Eugene?
Same problem as in the 8 years shelling of Donbass.
Leaders in Donbass were killed because they defended themselves against the AFU shelling, because Kremlin wanted to maintain friendships “with our equal partners”.
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why “private military” ask regular army for ammo?
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Kadirov was also unhappy with military.. Possible the whole management needs to be sacked