AP Photo/Manu Fernandez
UPDATE: Police is investigating the death of 3 persons in Barselona, Catalonia. It is not clear if this is related to Spanish police actions in the region yet.
Estem investigant la mort de tres persones a un immoble de Sant Martí (Barcelona)
— Mossos (@mossos) 1 October 2017
Over 470 people have been injured in Catalonia as a result of violent actions of Spanish police against supporters of the region independence, Mayor of Barcelona Ada Colau said demanding “an immediate end to police charges against the defenceless population”.
Over 460 people injured in Catalonia already. As Mayor of BCN I demand an immediate end to police charges against the defenceless population https://t.co/412z6Jacap
— Ada Colau (@AdaColau) 1 October 2017
Earlier on Sunday, Spanish police launched a large-scale crackdown on the Catalan independence referendum that had started in the region. Multiple videos appeared online showing how police use rubber bullets against and beat people that seek to participate in the referendum.
Previous reports appeared that at least 337 people have been injured in the erupted violence.
BREAKING: At least 337 people injured during police crackdown in Catalonia; several people are in critical condition – official
— BNO News (@BNONews) 1 October 2017
The number will likely rise further as the clashes continue across the region.
?Catalan police officer ask Spain’s Guardia Civil to calm down during the charges against #CatalanReferendum. pic.twitter.com/4o5rwFWrAj
— АРТЕМ КЛЮШИН (@ARTEM_KLYUSHIN) 1 October 2017
Meanwhile, the Spanish ambassador to the UK, Carlos Bastarreche, described the referendum as “a slow-motion, low-cost coup d’etat” by the Catalan government, according to the Guardian.
“If the Catalan government succeed it will be a drama for Europe, starting with the UK, because it will mean that a region can disobey the rule of law,” he said.
The Spanish government has repeatedly described that Catlan referendum as an illegal and unconstitutional act.
Vice President of the European Parliament, Ulrike Lunacek, has another opinion, according to TASS. She said that the referendum is legal, but “it must be agreed with Madrid. However, the Central government must finally end the embargo on dialogue.”
Spanish brutality against voters: https://youtu.be/ySRPfljRuQM
If Yanukovich had done what he had to do, you would have an allied Ukraine today. Not the clusterf**k that you got right on your border. Now, Spain is an ancient nation that defends itself and its law. Law Enforcement officers are deployed to ensure EuroMaidan 2 doesn’t happen, ok?
These police officers have been brought from all over Spain, they are not native to Catalonia so they kinda don’t give a fuck about beating people up. :/
They do care because they are Spanish and Catalonia is a Spanish region with people of different political opinions. However, Law Enformcement officers are not that patient with criminals and people who break the law. Hope you understand that. It’s called “Rule of Law” and it’s a fundamental principle of Western States (at least in Western Europe).
Ahh…remember back when NATO sponsored the Kosovo Albanian KLA terrorists?
Despite being a listed terrorist organization they somehow – ie with US state support – got full-blown NATO support (including NATO SOF training inside actual Albania from US and German military) and then subsequent EU political and financial support for a breakaway EU protectorate enclave – that remains economically unsustainable to this day – entirely dependent on combination of EU welfare and regional narco-smuggling.
I remember those days very well and how the US, Uk and Germany (of all NATO members) supported Albanian terrorists hoping to deliver the final blow to Serbia in Kosovo. I agree that it’s a narco-state with Camp Bondsteel on top of it. But I also know this episode created big divisions withint the EU and NATO: for instance, SPAIN has not recognised (and probably never will) independent Kosovo.
compare this with chechnya
Let’s all remember the 2014 Putsch which took place in Kiev. Now that something similar happens in the West many people from the US, Russia and elsewhere start to write shit about the EU and Spain (which are two *very* different things). First, the EU is a globalist political entity with no popular, national source of legitimacy; Second, Spain is a nation-state where the sovereign is the people of Spain; Third, the EU Commission and the globalist forces behind it work day and night, all the time, for many decades now, to weaken and, eventually, dismember the nation-states that originally created the EEC, then the EU; Fourth, this process only strengthens the EU’s illegitimate power, and more general, the power of globalist, within and beyond the EU itself. Hope you ALL understand something now… Yanukovich should’ve acted to stop the Putsch on Feb 20, the Spanish govt is acting to stop the Putsch on Oct 1. Bonus: Spain never recognized independent Kosovo, just so you know. Some commentators should be ashamed of turning their jackets today…
I agree with most of your statement. We witnessed similar situation in streets of Tehran after the 2009 presidential election. So far, Spanish police seems to be armed with sticks, rubber bullets and anti-riot outfits. Doesn’t seem to carry guns.
Let’s not forget in any situation like that, normally 2 groups protest: 1- The ones with legitimate demands, this group usually start the demonstrations and 2- The professionals, a wide array of thugs, agent provocateurs, bored people and so on, who usually join the demonstrations later and hijack it’s direction. No doubt there are people with logical and lawful demands but normally when it comes to clashes, it’s no longer in the hands of them.
If it’s anything like Iran 2009, there will be shots fired and people get killed, from BOTH demonstrators and police. In such level, both accuse the other of committing a crime, while possibly NONE of them did that. It’s the fingerprint of artificial riots. In the following days we’ll see if that’s the case.
I visited Barcelona a few years ago. Beautiful city, nice people and very good industrial base. Funny a lot of tourists or even locals mistook me for a Spaniard and asked me for directions or various things which I didn’t understand because my Spanish sucks and I can’t speak a sentence to save my life. It’s a shame to see it in trouble.
If EU is an enemy of the state sovereignty (and it is) what the heck are all these states doing there, then? Aren’t their politicians simply the traitors of their countries, there? Why beat up the population?
Politicians are traitors, but they also have their hands tied by the EU treaties and big business, especially the financial sector (e.g. have a look at Syriza). The formal destruction of nation-states is yet another step towards the total submission of people to the EU technocratic dictatorship.
This how the globalists take power by weakening the nation-state and then what everybody thought was a good idea at the time. They are hoping this spreads and you have all these tiny regions beholding to a large entity like France and Germany. Watch out if they step out of line it will be exactly like the fascist state you imagined but 10-1000 times worse. The only problem is you will have no way to protect yourself your rights will be stripped as you will be deemed a third class citizen and subject to imprisonment and you will be need to pay for these services your self and then you will be a slave one way or another.
Catalonia is not Spain.
Beside, the EU backed its “democratic” puppet regime in Madrid.
The problem is that it would only be democratic if the entirety of Spain was allowed to vote on this issue.
This is how Algeria became independent : first the French voted in favour of a local
refendum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_referendum_on_Algerian_self-determination,_1961
Only after the French accepted did another referendum take place, this time only in Algeria :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_independence_referendum,_1962
But they told us that the breakaway of Kosovo was democratic, but the other Serbians havent voted until today…
Spain never said Kosovo independenve was democratic and KLA were “freedom fighters”. Actually it has not even recognised Kosovo as an independent state.
If the Catalonians were a minority from a neigboring country, immigrating illegaly for decades and forcing the locals to leave, using violence; and when a superpower would help them with weapons and millitary training, facilitating their drugs smuggling and trafficking with the organs of the locals, and then if Spain would be bombed for 3 months with DU and the rest, destroying most of the industry – I could see your parallel.
But the mentioned superpower is an ally of Spain, Havier Solana is my witness.
Spain doesn’t recognise the independence of Kosovo to date.
Spain bombed Serbia for 3 months together with all the NATO, Havier Solana being the NATO chief at the time. That is what they have done. And this recognition- that’s the words.
And if you ask me, the chickens have come home to roost.
Javier Solana is a career politician, the guy is a physicist… he’s the typical traitor. Stop identifying the Spanish people with this globalist agent. Spain had a tiny contingent in Aviano to support NATO operations because the Spanish govt at the time was one of imbeciles and traitors, just as now. I didn’t support NATO bombing of Serbia, no one really did in Spain. The demonstrations against the Irak war were enourmous as well. And as I said before, Spain was wrong in many respects following NATO in Serbia, but it has never recognised Kosovo as a state, Spain supported the territorial integrity of Serbia. It’s easy to verify in the internet, have a look.
I never said a word against Spanish people. But Spain the State took part in the 3 months of bombing of Serbia. If you want to say Spain supported the territorial integrity of Serbia at the same time, let’s leave it at that. Why should I fight against that..
Spanish soldiers were really appreciated in the Balcans by all the sides. I agree that as an state we should not have took part in the operations against Yugoslavia but on the other hand, those soldiers were probably the most humanitarians of all the armies there.
Many forget about NATO they call the shots of member nations and to go against it would imperil your position in the military. Personally was in favor of what Trump stomped about and was silently hoping he would break up NATO. If he did none of these countries would be there and have formed new alliances with big changes to the structure of those alliances.
NATO is Marionette theater the strings are pulled by he who controls the power as head of NATO.
I know that Spin thinks so, should have added that. But the oppinion of Spain is not very important in the West ^^
These police officers (or whatever they are) are completely crazy and without empathy, a true danger to society. Normal police officers would never accept to throw and kick defenceless people. The people are treated as cattle.
Show me one police corps in the world in which all its members behave perfectly, all the time. Showing cherry-picked violence (was this article does and the other one referring to Catalonia today as well) is some 2 minutes videos (meaning we don’t know was precedes and follows the violent action) is intended to provoke reactions such as yours. Sad that they succeeded.
I don’t know which country you live in, but if this happened in mine there would be massive lawsuits. I feel sorry for you if you think this in any way might be normal.
What country is this where this dream world of lawsuits are enforced on police forces. They are only acting on orders and training they were given you can neither fault them nor blame them.
Those citizens were helding an illegal referendum, that is a coup d’etat, using childs and ancients as human shields. Where it is the exagerated reaction? There has been 800 injuries only if we consider that the people treated by the ambulances in the streets are injuried. Only two of them has been send to the hospital and one have an infart! In the other than there have been 400 policemen injuried. There are millions of citizens in Catalonia that want to be part of Spain and they have at least the same rigths than the other if not more because they are not out of the law.
So let the people hold their referendum and then just declare it invalid afterwards according to law. Don’t throw people around and kick them. Who as a policeman in his right mind would ever do such a thing.
Fascinating isnt it, and some even drools about Sore-ass associations huh, get real, Catalonia is millenniums old, have been a nation for longer that Spain have existed, and Catalonia was brutally attacked a little bit over 200 years ago, and forced into the realms of Spain, and have since then been raped and plundered, and people, even when this is happening in the Iberian lands, in Europa, dont know jack shit, I am in awe, the fake Facebook is packed with fake persons whom is, writing exactly like the Hasbaratnjiks did, and do against Syria and the same rhetoric is echoed about everything, but somehow the Kurdish is Ok, huh, and others, where the scums whine about this regions right to make their own Gov and follow their own politics and people, but not Catalonia.
I bet they are the same people, I just ran over some of our Norwegians MSM where they still have comments, aka Facebook, and I did noticed how much fake “people” there are out there, and now, like flies around an Turd, busing around and jamming everything, with lies and stunning levels of bullshit, divert the issue to whatever bonkers item they want, Russians colluding, huh, or simply hype something, but the over all consensus, is to throw as much shit at Catalans as they can muster or invent.
Nothing new, we have seen it on an day to day basis, and no the shit storm is against Catalans.
Do notice, how brutal the Police is, makes one wounder, and the Catalans have been kicked wide awake.
The Catalans, and dont bother to debate with shit heads, whom is just showing their ignorance, but follow your hart, the utter nonsense about economy, well, how about the Spain Gov, whom soaked their own people in an debt spiral, with no bottom, threw the bill on all Spanish and have sucked the life of the Catalan region, to pay for the Spanish insane monetary policy.
Do you idiots pay attention at all, incl the so called “alternative” sites, an narrative most can shuffle up their asses, are in synck with the MSM, and everybody is deliberately, again, as many times before, fogging the debate with bullshit.
I hope the Catalans never gives up, what the Brexit did show, and what the MSM dont want to debate is that Britain is doing it much better when they have control over their own nation, their own recourse, and people, that, is something they dont wanna admit, and in stead of doing the right thing, regarding Britain, the are killing it by suffering the land and comer’s, to south the scums in EU.
Vaia con Dios, compagneros.
Never give in and never give up.
peace
Catalonia has never existed as a state as such. They’re not even milleniums old… All the rest is just delusional BS from someone that obviously doesn’t know a shit about this issue.
The Defenders of the Constitution look quite like some street scum to me.
I’d like to see what you’d do in their position. Become a traitor? Lose your job? Get beaten by protesters? Maybe you’re the scum here.
Very simple, I would never look for a job like that.
You could as well ask what the Einsatzgruppen-SS member in Babyi Yar could have done, and then finish the question with ‘Maybe you are the scum there’.
Nice comparison: Einsatzgruppen-SS and Spanish Police / Guardia Civil. Totally discredited by such ’boutade’.
Do take a look at these videos. Look at the little bastard pulling with all his might at a girl’s hair, or jumping onto someone’s back, just to kick him lying on the ground. Guardia Civil. Well they reminded us today of the foundations of the present Spanish state.
I cannot tell you what that little bastard would have done at Babyi Yar (I can imagine, though), but I can tell you for sure, I am no scum.
There have been some abuses (as shown in the videos). Now, think that those 2 minutes videos with cherry-picked scenes of violence are used to blame the Spanish Police / Guardia Civil and compare it to some tyrannical or genocidal force. Which is completely over the top. You’re being manipulated by a few 2 minutes videos… The modern Spanish state foundation dates back to the 18th century, but hispanic kigdoms existed long before (you can trace back Hispania to the Romans time). So if you imply that what you saw today reminds you of Franco and his dictatorship… well, it’s an overstatement again. The real fascism (ethno-cultural nationalism) comes from the other side, the poor Catalan pseudo-elites that organised this illegal and illegitimate circus for the joy of the EUcrats and some West /Spain haters.
I can only tell you I do not like what I have seen here. We live in a totalitarian age that simulates being something quite oposite, the freedom. In many a country and many a city people are going to be confronted with things like this, I am sure. Quite possibly you, as well. You are not going to like it, then.
I did not like what I saw today either. It was predictable though. I know who profits from it and I know what people will feel when they see the images (without proper contextualization -history, law, politics- of this conflict). We’ve been here before. I see the whole fucking picture and I don’t like it. BTW, What is Serbia doing to escape the totalitarian age? Do you have some magical idea? Maybe adopt some Putin style of government? Or integrate the EU? Or maybe get in a rocket an go to Pluto with a foodbox and some water? Good luck
Serbia is more or less an occupied country, thanks to US and the NATO. Our politics reminds of a certain Norwegian from the forties, whose name wasn’t Francisco but Gudrun. The country is thoroughly plundered and infested with thieves brought to power by the US, mostly. The people are slowly on the verge of hunger, and I am afraid, we could see the scenes much worse than in Barcelona.
Thanks for the good wishes. In my turn, I wish you sincerely the best of luck , and none of such things.
Europeans know how to fight for small rights and forget that you need the Major Core rights to make the individual rights enforceable. What you see is a quiet coup being staged with a difference from before, they are learning from Kiev and soon people like you the lost sheep will baa down to them and give up your freedoms and do it willingly.
Remove Catalonia.
>Move artirelly outside Barcelona
>If they become independent announce like Radovan Karadžić:If they go independent,
there will be no Catalonian left
>They dont care so start bombardment
>Roll tanks and infantry into Barcelona
>Annex all Catalonia
>If they riot then removal shall begin
Ypu can be sure that, people stood in the street is because the police ,was becuase the police actuación was not hard. If Polices would use their power, anybody didn’t stand in the street.
Esta es la manipulación más burda que se puede hacer de una noticia. Incluyen la muerte de una familia como brutalidad policial, cuando es un asesinato investigado como violencia familiar. Muy bien por los analistas de esta página web. Ahora van a convertirse en una página de sucesos.
This article is rubbish … How much money recieve southfront from catalonian independentist? … Pfff
The tree deads are domestic violence (but you used this notice in the article)… The mossos yesterday were in holidays…. They converted in independentist´s police …
I will try to explain what is happening rigth now in Spain. In Catalonia, the local government has been teaching a completely false History during the last 30 years and repeting that kind of stuff in the local TV, practising a perfect manouver of social engineering. Obviously it would have been imposible to do that without the support of the central government but it is not difficult because during the “Transición”, all the political parties and even the king were seduced by the globalism by different ways such as corruption or the secret societies. As Gen. Franco said to the English ambassor when he was talking about the benefits of the Masonry: “I don’t have any doubt about how usefull is the Masonry in England to England; the problem is that in Spain, the Masonry still being very usefull to England”. After 40 years of this kind of manipulation, maybe 3 millions over the 8 millions who lives in Catalonia want to be independent. The local president has violated all the laws to held something sligthly similar to a referendum (with people voting four times in different places, more votes than people in the census or 1000 votes in a town of only 400 people) And now they say that the government has been extremely severe! In any country, doesn’t matter if we talk about Russia or the USA; this never would have happened. It is obvious that is a manouver to destroy Spain, to prevent any kind of reaction of this country that was able in the past to defeat the Napoleon’s armies and a comunist revolution. The globalist know that when Spain is strong is dangerous as it was said by H. Kissinger to Carrero Blanco in 1970. One day later, Carrero Blanco was assasinated quite near the US embassy.
https://www.facebook.com/jorge.porras.37669/videos/843641442481242/
That woman said that her fingers were broken by the police. However, we can see in the video that the police only held her rigth hand and she has bind up the left one.