Macgregor: This Time It’s Different

Macgregor: This Time It's Different

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Authored by Douglas Macgregor via TheAmericanConservative.com

Until it decided to confront Moscow with an existential military threat in Ukraine, Washington confined the use of American military power to conflicts that Americans could afford to lose, wars with weak opponents in the developing world from Saigon to Baghdad that did not present an existential threat to U.S. forces or American territory.

This time – a proxy war with Russia – is different.

Contrary to early Beltway hopes and expectations, Russia neither collapsed internally nor capitulated to the collective West’s demands for regime change in Moscow. Washington underestimated Russia’s societal cohesion, its latent military potential, and its relative immunity to Western economic sanctions.

As a result, Washington’s proxy war against Russia is failing. U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin was unusually candid about the situation in Ukraine when he told the allies in Germany at Ramstein Air Base on January 20, “We have a window of opportunity here, between now and the spring,” admitting, “That’s not a long time.”

Alexei Arestovich, President Zelensky’s recently fired advisor and unofficial “Spinmeister,” was more direct. He expressed his own doubts that Ukraine can win its war with Russia and he now questions whether Ukraine will even survive the war. Ukrainian lossesat least 150,000 dead including 35,000 missing in action and presumed dead—have fatally weakened Ukrainian forces resulting in a fragile Ukrainian defensive posture that will likely shatter under the crushing weight of attacking Russian forces in the next few weeks.

Ukraine’s materiel losses are equally severe. These include thousands of tanks and armored infantry fighting vehicles, artillery systems, air defense platforms, and weapons of all calibers. These totals include the equivalent of seven years of Javelin missile production. In a setting where Russian artillery systems can fire nearly 60,000 rounds of all types—rockets, missiles, drones, and hard-shell ammunition—a day, Ukrainian forces are hard-pressed to answer these Russian salvos with 6,000 rounds daily. New platform and ammunition packages for Ukraine may enrich the Washington community, but they cannot change these conditions.

Predictably, Washington’s frustration with the collective West’s failure to stem the tide of Ukrainian defeat is growing. In fact, the frustration is rapidly giving way to desperation. 

Michael Rubin, a former Bush appointee and avid supporter of America’s permanent conflicts in the Middle East and Afghanistan, vented his frustration in a 1945 article asserting that, “if the world allows Russia to remain a unitary state, and if it allows Putinism to survive Putin, then, Ukraine should be allowed to maintain its own nuclear deterrence, whether it joins NATO or not.” On its face, the suggestion is reckless, but the statement does accurately reflect the anxiety in Washington circles that Ukrainian defeat is inevitable.

NATO’s members were never strongly united behind Washington’s crusade to fatally weaken Russia. The governments of Hungary and Croatia are simply acknowledging the wider European public’s opposition to war with Russia and lack of support for Washington’s desire to postpone Ukraine’s foreseeable defeat.

Though sympathetic to the Ukrainian people, Berlin did not support all-out war with Russia on Ukraine’s behalf. Now, Germans are also uneasy with the catastrophic condition of the German armed forces.

Retired German Air Force General (four-star equivalent) Harald Kujat, former chairman of the NATO Military Committee, severely criticized Berlin for allowing Washington to railroad Germany into conflict with Russia, noting that several decades of German political leaders actively disarmed Germany and thus deprived Berlin of authority or credibility in Europe. Though actively suppressed by the German government and media, his comments are resonating strongly with the German electorate.

The blunt fact is that in its efforts to secure victory in its proxy war with Russia, Washington ignores historical reality. From the 13th century onward, Ukraine was a region dominated by larger, more powerful national powers, whether Lithuanian, Polish, Swedish, Austrian, or Russian. 

In the aftermath of the First World War, abortive Polish designs for an independent Ukrainian State were conceived to weaken Bolshevik Russia. Today, Russia is not communist, nor does Moscow seek the destruction of the Polish State as Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin, and their followers did in 1920.

So where is Washington headed with its proxy war against Russia? The question deserves an answer.

On Sunday December 7, 1941, U.S. Ambassador Averell Harriman was with Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill having dinner at Churchill’s home when the BBC broadcast the news that the Japanese had attacked the U.S. Naval Base at Pearl Harbor. Harriman was visibly shocked. He simply repeated the words, “The Japanese have raided Pearl Harbor.”

Harriman need not have been surprised. The Roosevelt administration had practically done everything in its power to goad Tokyo into attacking U.S. forces in the Pacific with a series of hostile policy decisions culminating in Washington’s oil embargo during the summer of 1941.

In the Second World War, Washington was lucky with timing and allies. This time it’s different. Washington and its NATO allies are advocating a full-blown war against Russia, the devastation and breakup of the Russian Federation, as well as the destruction of millions of lives in Russia and Ukraine. 

Washington emotes. Washington does not think, and it is also overtly hostile to empiricism and truth. Neither we nor our allies are prepared to fight all-out war with Russia, regionally or globally. The point is, if war breaks out between Russia and the United States, Americans should not be surprised. The Biden administration and its bipartisan supporters in Washington are doing all they possibly can to make it happen.

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Sunny

The problem is that Macgregor is a retard or a disinfo shill. He’s been saying the war is over for an entire year now. He’s also been saying that 700.000 Russians are mobilized for a winter offensive. Where are these 700000? There’s not been any talks of additional mobilization anywhere.

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Glen

^^^^^^ RETARD ALERT^^^^^^^

Sunny

Is this website completely unironically full of bots or what? There’s nothing in my post above that is anything other than established fact.
Russia did NOT mobilize another 700k troops for a winter assault despite what Macgregor said, that is a fact or it somehow went so under the radar that not even Russians seem to be aware of this. Which would make me wonder how such a thing is possible. If close to a million additional troops were mobilized you’d think that someone would know.

Meanwhile Ukraine is kidnapping men of all ages wherever they can find them. Malls, banks, grocery stores and then they send these men directly to the frontlines to replace their fallen ones. Ukraine intends to mobilize around 200k men in this way. Yeah sure this cannon fodder is good only for dying, but Russia still has to expend ammunition to take them out. Not to mention it takes a lot of time. We’ve had a stalemate for almost an entire year now.

Care to elaborate what part of my post you seem to disagree with?

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Clyde

MacGregor did not say that the Russians mobilized another 700k for a winter assault. He’s a John Bircher douchebag, but you’re lying or too stupid to understand what he said. He said that six weeks ago the Russians had a total of 550 000 troops available and had added 100 000 support troops. That’s the total in theatre. There were, absolutely, some quarter of a million troops including republican and allied, and 300 000 known to be mobilized. Fuck-o.

Sunny

mobilize – to assemble or marshal (armed forces, military reserves, or civilian persons of military age) into readiness for active service.

If they’re already on the front lines then they’re obviously not just now getting mobilized. So in either case he chose his words poorly or is outright wrong.

Either way this is just a single example of all the times he’s been wrong. He said back in march 2022 that the war is already over. We’re almost a full year into the war now.

Later he said that HIMARS systems are irrelevant because they’re sending only one. Apparently he had not yet figured out that America is escalating gradually. Now he’s playing the exact same game with the tanks. Any time more lethal aid is announced, he downplays the effect, completely ignoring how the lethal aid always comes in gradually.

Clyde

Jizz-rag, I listened to what he said. I don’t like MacGregor but you didn’t listen to what he said or you’re too fucking stupid to parse the details. My money is that you are both too fucking lazy to listen to the clip and too stupid to understand. At no time in the clip does he say that the Russians mobilized “another 700 000 troops”. You said that because you are a lazy and stupid cunt. The war was basically over in March but the US owners grabbed their shitty Ukrainian puppet by the scruff of the neck and took over control of the Ukretard army. I’ve noticed that a common Ukretard fuck-pile troll move is to claim that observations of previous situations were inaccurate because the situations changed.

RAKONI

Brother you do not listen or you do not understand English !! Yes he said that the war was LITETALLY over in March meaning that it was clear that Ukraine stands no chance and it should have been over. Even Ukraine wanted it to be over by accepting the Istanbul agreement which Boris Jhonson made Kiev reject it just like they rejected the Minsk accord1&2 !! Where the fck do you get that he downplays the Western military effect, he keeps saying that all it does is prolong the war, more killing and suffering !! What he did say is that no matter what military shit they send will not change the outcome !! THAS VERY TRUE !!

Chris Gr

What is wrong with John Birch society, except for your Stalinist views?

lonegan

He knows shit about John Birch society but will quickly read some MSM articles about to look smart here and will preach his thesis. These socialists/commies are true morons. One would reason that after what these bankster cannon fodders like bolsheviks and commies have done in Russia (which is true genocide and dictatorship of the worst kind) some people would come to senses to understand danger such ideas and movements represent. But naaaah, Clyde is smart cunt, and he is also vaccinated, more than twice, maybe with Sputnik V crap, maybe with Pfizer, which made him developing Tourette’s syndrome.

Clyde

Now what kind of fascist closet-case thinks my vaccine status is anyone’s business but mine? You.

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Isser Harel

Communism was created by the Freemasons to stage the cold war and primarily to destroy Christianity. Look up the hidden hand gesture symbology of all the leading murderers in history and you’ll see the freemason gestures. Fauci included.
Jesus must have been who he is claimed to be since for 2,000 years now the powers that be have conspired to dismantle the Christian churches.

Clyde

You show your plethora of Holodomor evidence, and I’l tell you.

Warrior Nation

BUT YOU ARE A DOUCHBAG!

RAKONI

Macgregor never said that Russia mobilized 700,000 troops, and I will not get into his statements but in short he stated that there are 700,000 Russian troops ready to fight at this time which is TRUE and he breaks it down all the troops involved Russian, Chechen, Wagners, local militia and so on !! Having said that I think your post is all GOOD and no need to be deleted or not posted !! Every war has a stalemate for all kind of reasons, Ive gone through 4 years of wars it sucks and I get very upset when people cheer or push for more wars while sitting 10,000 miles away !! Best regards and God bless !!

Clyde

Lying Ukretard cunt on the loose! Hide the silverware!

lonegan

All, right, he is maybe an Ukrotard cunt, and you are a cunt from where exactly?

Clyde

Are you hitting on me?

Armin

Well written article. I should add that the founding of the United States in 1776, and the rush to the far west, to reach the Pacific and then conquer the Philippines, Japan, etc. and then the World, even if the Americans tried their best, were too slow. By now it’s too late and they have lost dramatically. They wanted to imitate the Roman Empire, but they don’t have the ability etc. . They are losers.

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Chris Gr

George Washington wanted to make new Atlantis.

Armin

I believe you, but they knew little about Atlantis,
only Plato mentions it, among the ancients. They wanted to build an aggressive empire of conquerors, but they didn’t know how to do it and even today they are not capable.

Jean de Peyrelongue

As long as Washington can make this war by proxy using european as cannon fodder, the war will remain a conventional war. Should Washington declares war to Russia, this war will become a nuclear war because Russia cannot invade the US nor bring enough destruction to it without weapons of massive destruction.

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Well, in the hypothetic scenario that internet would be globally disrupted for couple of months it is quite possible that western citizens would kill each other even without using WMD.
Just imagine it, healthcare, logistic, banking, markets, industry, retail … al down at the same moment.
I think maybe small part of military has backup plans for that, other sectors would be total mess.
I call it “asynchronous reaction”, something Russia mentioned many times.

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asymmetrical..

Hip

Just 5 EMP-s , 4 over US and one over West EU are enough to do this.

something

Funny part is Poland and their role in NATo. Poland dreams about Nato victory in Ukraine and active participation of Poland military and $$$ billion contract for Polish constructing companies to rebuild infrastructure in “liberated” Ukraine. I call it delusion. War in Afghanistan took 20+years and Nato was defeated, war in Ukraine in the best scenario would be permanent and would end with social unrest and civil war in the USA and Europe, in the worst scenario it would escalate to nuclear war. As for as rebuilding infrastructure after civil war or nuclear war, I think it is a bit far shot because 90 percent ppl would perish and the rest would be glad to survive with stone age technologies.

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Chris Gr

There won’t be civil wars in Europe, because Europeans are more united, unlike US.

jens holm

Mac Gregor I readed, throu . I think he is correkt. they brought them there. Rusticas are becaming stronger. I wonders, but I accepts the fakts.

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Pet

Shit stirrer

inferno

In that case, Cuba is allowed to have nuclear missiles, so does Mexico, Canada, Venezuela or Brazil.

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gustavo

URRS defeated USA in 1918, and USA soldier had to run away (like rats) from north Russia in 1920. So, the bright idea of USA was to confront Russia with Europe and Ukraine, and to obtain military profit from this and to Destroy Russia internally to have total control of it, as USA have done with many countries. However, Russia is not Afganista, Irak, Siria, Libia, Yugoslavia, Viet-NAM, Cuba, Hondura, Guatemala, Colombia, Argentina, México, or Egipt…. and this is a very bad news for USA.

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Based US Vet

The US lost their SMOs against Vietnam, Korea and Afghanistan.

Nahavar

russia never tried to delete the polish State. i agree the rest

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ZARPOWER

CUANDO EL MUNDO ESTA EN MANOS DE LOS DEMENTES MACHOS ALFAS ANGLOSAJONES
MAS BRUTOS QUE UN ELEFANTE LOCO EN UN BAZAR
Y A SIDO ASI POR AL MENOS 200 AÑOS
LA UNICA OPCION VIABLE ES SACRIFICAR AL PERRO RABIOSO ANGLOSAJON
PARA QUE VUELVA ALGO PARECIDO A UN ESTADO DE PAZ UNIVERSAL
O LA FAMOSA MULTIPOLARIDAD
LO MAS IGUALITARIA POSIBLE ENTRE LAS NACIONES
Y SOLO ASI HABRA PROGRESO REAL PARA LA GENTE ESE PROGRESO CON SUFICIENTE PLATA
EN EL BOLSILLO PARA SER TODOS Y TODAS LO MAS FELICES POSIBLE
Y ESO ES INVIABLE CON LOS ANGLOSATANES CODICIOSOS
SOLO RUSIA PUEDE GARANTIZAR UN ORDEN MUNDIAL MAS JUSTO
AUNQUE NO IGUALITARIO DESDE YA

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Tzar Tellus

Play with the thought – maybe its dollar that is collapsing and one way to hide the default is to start a war.

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Clyde

The dollar racket is all that allows the US to maintain their hundreds of overseas bases. It’s the lynchpin of the current form of the Empire.

Chris Gr

Ukraine is becoming like Afghanistan and Azov are becoming like the Taliban.

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William White

Douglas Macgregor, Worlds best truth teller, go Doug!

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John

Have fun, I won’t be fighting against Russia. The real enemy of the American People, Our Constitution, and Individual Rights is Washington D.C. and the WEF. Our Government along with most other governments has been taken over by the agents of the WEF. The goal is to get the USA and Russia to start WW3, both of our nations will be destroyed and the Great Reset of the elites will be achieved. I won’t fucking be a part of the charade.

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Christopher

The last time the US population experienced the realities of war was in 1861 to 1865, if they are not carful they’ll get a reminder what war is really like.

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thoughtful

They NEED a reminder.

Matias

Electricity prices in Europe went sharply down from mid Dec to 31 Jan. Europe is easily winning energy war Russia started in 2021. Natural gas prices in Dutch market now lower than in spring 2021.

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Limp dick Putin was not chess master

Mean while Rooskies are forced to sell its oil with price of only $37 brl.

Isser Harel

At production cost of $2 per barrel who are you fooling. Imbecile. Go suck another vaxxed nafo cock.

Clyde

Derp or be derped, fuck-o.
“Germany has fallen into recession, experts have warned, after official data revealed a surprise slump at the end of last year.
Speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos this month, Mr Scholz had insisted Germany will avoid a recession this year despite the energy crisis which has ravaged its economy.”