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UK intelligence was aware of the plan to murder Jamal Khashoggi three weeks before he entered the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, according to unnamed intelligence sources cited by the Sunday Express.
Khashoggi’s close friend says that the journalist was investigating the Saudi usage of chemical weapons before his death.
According to the Sunday Express’ anonymous sources, the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) intercepted communications by the Kingdom’s General Intelligence Directorate and discovered orders “member of the royal circle” to abduct the journalist and return him to Saudi Arabia.
The sources also said that the orders did not come directly from Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and do not implicate him in any way.
Despite ordering to abduct and return Khashoggi to Saudi Arabia, the orders did not prohibit further actions if the journalist proved “troublesome.”
The intelligence source was cited by the Sunday Express:
“We were initially made aware that something was going in the first week of September, around three weeks before Mr Khashoggi walked into the consulate on October 2, though it took more time for other details to emerge. These details included primary orders to capture Mr Khashoggi and bring him back to Saudi Arabia for questioning. However, the door seemed to be left open for alternative remedies to what was seen as a big problem. We know the orders came from a member of the royal circle but have no direct information to link them to Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman. Whether this meant he was not the original issuer we cannot say.”
According to the anonymous sources, MI6 had warned their Saudi counterparts to abort the mission.
“On October 1 we became aware of the movement of a group, which included members of Ri’āsat Al-Istikhbārāt Al-‘Āmah (GID) to Istanbul, and it was pretty clear what their aim was. Through channels we warned that this was not a good idea. Subsequent events show that our warning was ignored.”
The Sunday Express also asked why the US intelligence was not alerted, the source replied:
“A decision was taken that we’d done what we could.”
The outlet further cited Tom Wilson, of the Henry Jackson Society think tank who shed some light on Jamal Khashoggi’s past.
“The misleading image that has been created of Jamal Khashoggi covers up more than it reveals. As an insider to the Saudi regime, Khashoggi had also been close to the former head of the intelligence agency. He was an Islamist, a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, and someone who befriended Osama Bin Laden and had been sympathetic to his Jihad in Afghanistan. All of these connections are being hidden by a simplistic narrative that Jamal Khashoggi was just a progressive freedom fighting journalist. It isn’t plausible that he was murdered simply for being a journalist critical of the regime. The truth is much more complicated.”
On October 28th, BBC aired an interview with Galip Dalay, a friend of Khashoggi. According to him, he met Jamal a week prior to his disappearance and he appeared “unhappy” and “worried.”
After a little “prodding,” Khashoggi admitted that he was getting proof that “Saudi Arabia had used chemical weapons [in Yemen]. He said he hoped he be getting documentary evidence.”
“All I can tell you is that the next thing I heard, he was missing,” he finished.
If Dalay’s remakrs are the truth, the Khashoggi investigation may have been one of the key reasons behind the Saudi decision to abduct or eliminate him.
On October 25th, Attorney General Shaikh Suood bin Abdullah Al Mo’jab admitted that Khashoggi’s murder was premeditated and was not a result of a “fight gone wrong,” as the Kingdom initially announced.
“The public prosecution received information from the Turkish side through the Joint Working Group between the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the Turkish Republic, indicating that the suspects in Khashoggi’s case premeditated their crime,” the Attorney General said. “The public prosecution continues its investigations with the accused in accordance with the latest investigation results to reach the facts, God willing, and complete the course of justice.”
Meanwhile, Salah bin Jamal Khashoggi, the journalist’s eldest son left Saudi Arabia. He had previously been unable to leave because his passport had been restricted by the Kingdom several months earlier.
He received condolences from the Crown Prince, as can be seen on the haunting picture below.
Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and his father King Salman pictured shaking hands with Salah bin Jamal Khashoggi, the journalist’s eldest son, and Sahl bin Ahmad Khashoggi, another relative, at Al Yamama Palace in Riyadh
On October 28th it was reported that Suood bin Abdullah Al Mo’jab would travel to Turkey and hold talks with the investigators regarding the murder.
Turkey has called for a full disclosure about the killing, which was carried out by Saudi agents— some of whom appear to work directly under Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
US Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis aclso urged for a full and complete investigation into the incident. He spoke to Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister Adel al-Jubeir during an international conference in the Kingdom. He told reporters that Jubeir “had no reservations at all” about the need for transparency.
Asked whether his country would limit its support to the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen, Mr Mattis said:
“We’ll continue to support the defence of the kingdom.”
Washington’s response so far has been to sanction 21 Saudis by revoking their visas or making them ineligible for US visas.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan vowed that all facts surrounding the murder will be discovered and justice will be brought during his briefing on October 23rd.
The Sale of ARMS by USA to SAUDI -INCLUDES White Phosphorous , Cluster Bombs ..was about to be EXPOSED by KHASHOGGI
Cluster bombs are old news, Saudis have used them, lots of evidence of that, not a secret.
Maybe the small, contained mini-nukes is the crux to this matter -> if of course, we are not being given a course to follow.
This is just stupid. Khashoggi has no inside track on this. Any evidence would be on the ground in Yemen, where Khashoggi has no presence. However there is a large social media presence of Yemenis, I see videos of military actions all the time, I follow a number of Yemenis on Twitter, nobody has ever mentioned chemical weapons usage.
More anonymous psy-ops.
I agree with you…anything that comes out of UK is highly suspicious…
The fact it comes out now tells me that the UK is simply whitewhasing MBS for its own gain.
Why does it whitewash MBS to claim MBS killed Khashoggi because Khashoggi was about to report on MBS’ war crimes?
I’m confused.
It says that rogue people were involved ie not really Salman’s fault. Ie Plausible Deniability for Salman just as Turkey has recently done ,giving time to Salman and Saud to change the story many times.
What does that have to do with this article? Nothing, OK, that’s why I got confused. But you wrote “comes out now”, which refers to the alleged chemical weapons usage … ahh, never mind.
I meant article from Britain comes out now ,whether it was about chemical warfare agents or not. Why were the Brits so silent until now. Do they want to show they are #metoo?
You are right. Only rumors, not less not more. There have never been any news regarding chemical weapons used in Yemen. Saudis are pounding enormous amount of explosives by air,but not yet any chemical elements.Khashoggi incident was only utter stupidity of MBS.
Now FUKUS’ intelligence agencies begin the smear campaign trying to spin the story. The question of whether or not Kashoggi was a nice person is irrelevant. The question is, is it okay for rogue regimes like Wahhabistan and FUKUS to murder political opponents of their dictators? Wahhabistan is guilty of not being tech savvy enough to do a Michael Hastings, Andrew Breitbart or Antonin Scalia “plausible deniability” murder. They just axed him up the old fashioned way.
The British are past masters at such murderous acts for political gain.
Cecil , who became the chief adviser to Queen Elizabeth 1st ,being just one example of such Machiavellian methods.
He was even responsible for the death of his half brother who also also vied for the attention of the Queen ( a Protestant ). Both betrayed the Queen toward the end of her life, with the secret collusion with James who was the Catholic King of Scotland.
Such treachery is well rewarded by power cabals. Here is Baron Burghley’s estate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Cecil,_1st_Baron_Burghley#/media/File:Front_of_Bu
Funnily enough I have been going to Burghley House every year since about 1997 for the Battle Prom Concerts in July. The cafe in the Orangery is rather nice. I can recommend the Eggs Benedict :)
The costs of building Burghley are well known due to the intact and detailed financial records. The house is estimated to have cost circa three and a half billion UK pounds in todays money.
Such wealth then and now is very rarely gained honestly.
Later in history ,Prime Minister Walpole is known to have been heavily involved in fraud. He built a very grand house as well that would cost circa four billion pounds today. Walpole however concealed his crimes by burning the documentary evidence of purchases.
It looks like a tremendous event! I’d love to visit but my social media comments would likely get me a Persona Non Grata from customs! :D https://www.battleproms.com/about/the-14th-annual-burghley-house-battle-proms.aspx
Britain is the worlds champion of Free Speech :)
With the caveat that you say what the Government agrees with of course :)
LOL! Good one!…Here in the States everyone is equal. Though some are more equal than others. :D
They should do the same thing with Mohammed Ben Shlomo…Chop him up feed him to the pigs…
small tactical nuclear bombs were used by saudi airforce, dropped by F-16 in may 2015
I recall Reports of something similar to this at the time but then, Media dropped story like hot burning Coals
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/04/30/israel-strikes-syria-with-tactical-nuke/
Really does not look like a tactical nuke, more like some Thermobaric type of weapon.
Hey, dont shoot the messenger.
I wont, dont worry.
Yes is remember that. Veterans today had a nice article on it. Once you recognize the plasma blurrs…you cant miss it.
There was also the same allegation of such use of a Tactical Nuke against the Kurds IN Turkey at about that time as well.
No, they dropped like 50 large thermonuclear bombs, didn’t you read about it? Like a few weeks ago. Check it!
Don’t be such a dolt. If you can’t accept that Saudis are capable of dropping small tactical nukes using depleted Uranium on innocent Civilian Populations, as has actually been the case ……. and as also is the case in Syria where the Saudis were the original financiers, backers and armers of the hordes of Islamic Wahhabi Jihad and where there have been allegations of the use of depleted uranium injected bombs made against a number of Air-Forces, none of which are Syrian or Russian, please just Fugg Off
Fugg off dolt.
Also the Israelis used them in Syria – https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/04/30/israel-strikes-syria-with-tactical-nuke/
Do you have any articles about that?
Is it just speculation or are there proof of it?
So many people thinks its nukes when its thermobaric instead
I support the houthis, but i dont eat anything raw.
Truth is the first casaulty of war
you cant be this retarded……https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/articles/2015/06/02/tactical-nuclear-ambiguity-a-short-history-of-explosion-mistakenly-believed-to-be-nuclear-detonations/
No one could be as retarded as blundercat and their friends the White Helmets. By the way is there any truth in the rumor that the white helmets are changing their name to the white colostomy bags?
” Khashoggi admitted that he was getting proof that “Saudi Arabia had used chemical weapons [in Yemen].”
IF this is proven it suggests two major scenarios.
1/ It is inconceivable that the Saudi Crown Prince would NOT have sanctioned the use of chemical weapons in Yemen.
2/ The fact that a UK MSM Newspaper has printed this hypothesis will be a major embarrassment for the FUKUS gang ( France, UK,US.)
“Oh, what a tangled web we weave…when first we practice to deceive.”
― Walter Scott. :) :) :)
“Khashoggi admitted” is a really underhanded way (underhanded as in: “cheap propaganda”) to say, “Khashoggi claimed”.
According to the Express (https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1037378/Khashoggi-murder-news-saudi-arabia-chemical-weapons-use ), this was likely use of phosphorous in urban areas.
But this is old news. Washington Post, The Independent, Sputnik and Antiwar.com reported it 2 years ago (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/09/19/saudi-arabia-appears-to-be-using-u-s-supplied-white-phosphorus-in-its-war-in-yemen/ , https://news.antiwar.com/2016/09/19/us-admits-supplying-saudis-with-white-phosphorus-munitions/ , https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/saudi-arabia-appears-to-be-using-american-supplied-white-phosphorus-in-its-war-in-yemen-a7316841.html , https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201609201045524731-us-saudi-white-phosphorus/ )
I agree. All the details were “red herrings” designed to muddy the waters and fool people. The key sentence is where they absolve salman of all responsibility,saying “rogue elements”were involved. I don’t think so!!
If the Limeys really knew a lot and were sincere, then why did they not warn Khashoggi? Why didn’t they expose his murder ,rather than the Turks Why?, because they were in on it as usual or wanting to profit from it.
2/ The fact that a UK MSM Newspaper has printed this hypothesis will be a major embarrassment for the FUKUS gang ( France, UK,US.)…………. shows it is Government propaganda (ie FALSE), do be proved as false at a later date.
Hey…Muslimbrotherhood, Al-Qaeda loving Jamal Khashoggi… Thanks to Chopping You Up Mohammed Ben Shlomo had to run to them Russians…MI6 had warned him not to do it…but the Arrogant Prick did it anyway…. the Gringos will not be to happy with this course of events… so Ben Shlomo became a Dead Man Walking… I bet his Private-Jet will crash…Or his Rolls Royce will be Parked against a Wall with 160mph… a Heart-Attack…inexplicable disease… Polonium or a Novichok-Poisoning….all these strange things can happen in our daily lives…
If MBS is contaminated with British made Novichok he will get better in a couple of weeks Merijn :)
“UK intelligence was aware of the plan to murder Jamal Khashoggi three weeks before he entered the Saudi consulate in Istanbul” – SO WAS THE UK.
Anyway, the whole article, whilst I thank the Author, sounds like a total US / Saudi sick op.
If this is true ” All of these connections are being hidden by a simplistic narrative that Jamal Khashoggi was just a progressive freedom fighting journalist. It isn’t plausible that he was murdered simply for being a journalist critical of the regime. The truth is much more complicated.” …….. WhyTF would the US even allow him into the Country, furthermore, why would Khashoggi feel safe in the US.
This is my thought as well. None of what anyone is saying makes any real sense. The idea that MI6 would out KSA is inane. This is nothing more than a psyop…the real reasons are unknown. There is either a problem with MbS or there is more afoot relating to who will run KSA. Maybe MbS is wanting to relent in the war on Yemen…maybe he just isn’t as rabid as the west makes him appear(or wants him to be). Maybe he is foolish enough to think that he has real power. What ever the reality, make no mistake, MbS is the target. I say this because of all the 9/11 ‘KSA did it’ BS we have been deluged with lately, Trumps twittering on the subject, the fact that Khashoggi worked for the US MSM dis-info system. The last 2 lines in your post say it all.
Well, Khashoggi certainly wasn’t killed because he was simply a ‘progressive’ journalist. That much is true. However, it’s also certainly not about chemical weapons. K was in favour of the war against Yemen. Rather, he was gaining influence. The Muslim Brotherhood is an arch-enemy of the Saudi establishment. The Saudi power structure is frailer than ever. Hence he had to be eliminated.
Western media have heavily diverted criticism, and protected Saudi’s in last decade – war on Yemen has been largely ignored. The British under Cameron horse-traded to get KSA onto the UN International Human Rights Commission, in return KSA bought half UK’s off-loaded Typhoon jet fleet, despite fact KSA publicly executes own citizens. Needless to say KSA are only state that does this on Commission. So when suddenly western media is in lock-step and criticizing bin-Salmam-jr something is up.
Could it be the western states are concerned that bin-Salman-jr refuses to end war the on Yemen, before a major humanitarian catastrophe occurs, that implicates all of them all in major war crimes? Or, perhaps is far simpler, recall bin-Salman-jr shook down all his oligarch relatives to tune of $800 billion at Ritz-Carlton, that is money under his control, could it be the western politicians are just looking to blackmail and control the pretender to the crown – with pay-to-stay?
What are real connections between Donald Trump, Saudi Arabias’ Royals and elimination of Khashoggi?
What was of so importance that one of Trumps first moves after elected to travel to Saudi Arabia?
And what of the list of disidents trump wanted silenced that he had delivered to Saudis’ in August of 2017 that contained Khashoggis’ name, as was reported within the UK Mail upon April of 2018.
It is not always acts at tme of those running and winning office that are only corrupted by influence of dark money.
International finsnce institutions have always been used to launder covert funds through, the Bush and CIA have very close relations with family that own Bank of Lichtenstein, as nut one example which Bush Sr. used for Saudi financed operations in conjunction with CIA front Companies.
Ever wonder what route and where the hundreds of millions of $100 dollar bills disapeared to. that were paid out in Afghanistan and Iraq ?
Millions ended up in Nank of Lichtenstein and Euro Banks then wired to secret off shore accounts in Bahamas.
Who backed with their collateral the billion$ loaned by US and German interest
to Trump even when he was actually bankrupt for hundreds of millions?
What banks and individuals help laundrred loans and huge military contractors to Saudi in kick backs to Individual Saudi Royals?
The old saw, “Follow the money ” has withstood the test of time and within international politics money reigns supreme.
As for the common mans knowledge of such things, most never never take note of the dots of info not hidden, let alone give a fly’n pig about connecting the dots.
As to American public no one batted an eye when news released that in 15 years since Afghan invasion the Pentagon cannot account for some 6-8 “Trillions” of dollars.
No there is a lot more to reason Trump showed little reaction as to Khashoggi butchery, with his strongest words were “That it was a poorly executed and coverup attempt by Saudis.
He was only converend about protecting own political financial connections to whole affair.
What people between Russia, China and Saudi Arabia has most money invested and intertwined with GOP/Democrat polititions, and banking industrial concernsespecially as to energy, upon US shores”$
Hint: name begins with an S.
What! Saudi is doing nasties in Yemen. Stop the presses! Oh wait. 5 year old children already know this. OK. Delete all that.
This “chemical weapons” story looks like a diversion to me. I think MBS was tipped off by Jared Kushner last year when he supplied the Crown Prince with a list of his “enemies”. This led to the Ritz Carlton round up of those opposed to MBS. It just took a while for MBS to get to Kashoggi, who was working on an “Arab Spring” project for Saudi Arabia.
Moon of Alabama probably has it more close to reality:
“Recently Khashoggi started a number of projects that reek of preparations for a CIA controlled color-revolution in Saudi Arabia:”
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/10/settling-the-khashoggi-case-will-be-a-difficult-process.html#more
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Agreed. Moon of Alabama has nailed it.
That proof is where? Any journalist sitting on a story like that knows to provide themselves with ‘insurance’. Especially someone who has been in the inner circles of the House of Saud.
Well done Southfront. You got the scoop before bellingcat (as if they would ever print THAT story). The Saudis are guilty of multiple crimes against humanity. They are ugly war mongers and they butcher their own people. Their only friends in the world are war mongers too.