Israel’s Wolf Armoured Personnel Carrier (Infographics)

Israel's Wolf Armoured Personnel Carrier (Infographics)

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On September 1, Hezbollah carried out an anti-tank guided missile strike on Israel’s Wolf armoured personnel carrier near Avivim in Upper Galilee. Hezbollah says that the vehicle was destroyed and several Israeli soldiers were killed or injured. Israel denies any casualties.

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Tiresia Branding

and some dumbasses affirm it survive to two ATGM designed to destroy much better armoured tanks. If true, IDF can invade all they want, just by now. Wolf seems to be a miracoulus vehicle, the definitive weapon :-D

Ceasar Polar

The Wolf was hit by 2 different Kornet missile from 2 different angles, using the new technic “double tap” using 2 missiles quickly to bypass air defenses in place.
I can affirm that following those missiles, no one survived inside that armored Wolf. Everyone was killed. According to hezbollah, the target was the general of the North region, as they were waiting on their target before firing. Great intelligence if that ends to be true from Hezbollah.

Redadmiral

If what you state is true Ceasar, then Hezbollah have killed General Yair Golan. Maybe the forerunner of “Golan” itself being brought back to Syria.

Tiresia Branding

I don’t know if it is true, but nobody shot two ATGM, from extremely risky positions, on a low value target

Ceasar Polar

2 ATGM’s of type Kornet were fired one from 1.6 km and the other from 4km distance. Both striked the back and side of the Wolf armored vehicle. Reminder even the Merkava cannot stand a Kornet missile from the back, as the 2006 conflict against Lebanon proved. 2 Kornets on the back of the Wolf, means sure kill!

Link from VT:
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/09/02/israel-lied-a-general-died-in-hezbollah-attack/

Ceasar Polar

Another link from VT is confirming that israel lied:

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/09/02/israel-lied-a-general-died-in-hezbollah-attack/

If that is true it is a major milestone for hezbollah. And a huge blow to the IOF

Redadmiral

Was wondering myself about the price tag. Probably $467,000 each paid for by US tax payer. Hezbollah have really stamped the squatters bio-metric passport with a one way Exit visa to Hell

Spit

70% of the Israeli Millitary is Muslim.
if I get Drafted the First Kike that crosses my path I will shoot.
the 70% will see this and will do the same.

Israel is a Paper Tiger. Whites will not fight with them.
They Flooded our lands with Blacks, and they Now want us to Leave and fight a war while the Noggs are left alone with our Family.
Israel is screwed.

Tiresia Branding
Redadmiral

70% of IDF Muslim? more like 0.007%. “Four years ago, the number of Arab Israelis who volunteered for military service was under 10. Today it stands in the dozens.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/arab-israelis-are-joining-idf-growing-numbers-officials-n724586

Real Anti-Racist Action

The burst of smoke you see at first is the automated self defense against missile attacks. It worked well and both missiles hit the pavement and now the carrier.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1168632155708231682
https://twitter.com/i/status/1168560286426697729
https://mobile.twitter.com/Obs_IL/status/1168560286426697729
https://khbrpress.ps/uploads/images/2019/09/eMn3k.jpeg

Tiresia Branding

do you know the Kornet ATGM has IR visor for sighting? No smoke can stop the guidance. Second, that video demonstrate nothing, but denies only all previous official versions issued by Israel. And for me it only confirms those of Hezbollah

Davki

Exactly right. This is the third version of events Israel gives… the pictures also don’t match at all. There should be more would and no entrance to the street etc. And the blast ist quite different. This is obviously fake. This only makes things worse for the Israeli leadership. By now, even their staunch supporters should understand that they have zero credibility. It’s an Israeli circus.

Ceasar Polar

Exactly.

Ceasar Polar

I think he is a Hasbara troll. Trying to mislead the 100% kill shot on the General that was inside the Wolf. Rip Amir baram

Uncle Meat (meet john doe)

yep, I had thought he wasn’t as such but I’m beginning to think you’re right. Lame.

Uncle Meat (meet john doe)

Possible that is an entirely different vehicle driving by (notice the edit/splice before it appears?) I’m tending to go with this scenario, but who knows.

Real Anti-Racist Action

I did see that and believe that is a strong possibility.
#1 Perhaps this was a different targeted transport and it survived. Or…
#2 Perhaps IDF media wing quickly went out and filmed such an event like a mini Hollywood movie for psychological reasons. Jews do that stuff all the time. Like the fake movies about the faked holohoax.

Real Anti-Racist Action

My assumption is that Israel implemented multiple counter measures, and that the smoke screen is just part of it.
Don’t get me wrong, Israel does so much evil. I am not taking there side at all here.
Only going over that their is a possibility that they have a semi decent counter measure (possibly). I am just trying to examine the information from all sides.
I know full well that Israel has started this round just as Israel started the war in 2006.

Real Anti-Racist Action

The missiles would have destroyed it if they had hit. The plum of quick smoke you see at first was Israels protection system. The whole thing was a trap set by Israel. I post the video of a different angle of the attack below. https://twitter.com/i/status/1168632155708231682

Ceasar Polar

They hit from the rear and the side. The Wolf is dead, with the General Amir Barram that was inside.

Saso Mange

Maybe it was not a mistake. When we take US aid money into account Israel actually gets paid to produce their own vehicles lol

Ashok Varma

No tank or armored vehicle is a match for the new generation of Russian and Iranian missiles. Israel simply lost this round.

Ceasar Polar

PressTV says Hezbollah claims the Wolf armored vehicle contained the General of the North region (IOF troops).

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/09/02/605103/Lebanon-Israel-Hezbollah-response

If that is true it is great news.
Also the IOF from kikeStollenLand are used to lie when some major objectives are hit successfully.

RichardD

Press TV edits and deletes my truther comments. They have a credibility deficit.

Ceasar Polar

Check this one straight from Hezbollah, on a pressTV site, but still the video released by Hezbollah:
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/09/02/605160/Hezbollahlinked-alManar-TV-airs-footage-of-attack-on-Israeli-positions

RichardD

It doesn’t contain any after detonation video or stills showing the vehicle after detonation. Hezbollah is hiding something. From the looks of the CCTV video it’s that both missiles missed their target completely.

The only fire and forget Kornets are some of the post 2012 Russian ones. All the others require skilled operators. Particularly at the distance involved in these shots at a moving target. It looks like they both missed.

StafJustice

Let’s wait and see the second video….Hezbollah is not fun of releasing videos quick….
They study the trend and will always use the second video to prove the lies of the Zionists…
But firing atgm from inside occupation territory and Israel evacuating the avivim military barracks is a strategic victory.
Because Israel did all it could to prevent this attack..

RichardD

It may be a long wait. The first missile clearly missed. And the second operator was firing blind into a cloud made by the first missile that made the target impossible to see.

RichardD

There’s no proof in that article.

Tiresia Branding

names and pics of the victims expected

Ceasar Polar

The delay of the video was smart and it exposed the zionazis lies by showing a fake pic of injured kikesoldiers. Later they admitted it was a fake. That also is a shame.

RichardD

This is a screenshot from the video played at .25 speed showing the center of the fireball as it was contracting to the left front of the vehicle about a second after the detonation as the flash was dying down and the vehicle was entering the cloud of smoke. The armored truck had traveled about 1 vehicle length by this time towards the detonation. The first missile clearly missed, as did the second which detonated a considerable distance behind the vehicle.

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b47c3c77ae857d106448ef6787928d14f8ae24625a65ab157f54c3546356492.png

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Ceasar Polar

The operators used the new technic of “double tap”, 2 missiles to counter any air defenses. Also, they exploded from the back and the side of the Wolf. Not even the Merkava can stand a Kornet shot from the back. Let alone 2 missiles one on the side one on the back, it is a sure kill.
The wolf with its occupants didnt even understand what hit them.

RichardD

You have no proof of that.

Ceasar Polar

The proof is hezbollah’s video. Yes, they actually have credibility, since they are the ones conducting the strike.

RichardD

Not when they don’t show the video after the second detonation, what they do show shows the first shot clearly missing and there’s CCTV security camera video showing a detonation and a drive by with smoke dissapating in the background.

RichardD

Pull up this video on the YouTube site and tap on the screen. Go to the 3 dot settings icon in the upper right hand corner of the video and tap on it. Tap on play back speed and choose .25 and watch the video in slow motion. Both misses are clear as day. The first missile detonated to the left front of the vehicle and the second detonation is to the right rear of the vehicle. Case closed, you lose.

https://youtu.be/PQ20ZuVNQrY
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Redadmiral

Great Video. If Golan was in the APC then without doubt he is dead. This shows exceptional intelligence gathering and execution of operation. The squatters must be shitting themselves, now knowing no matter how high up the chain of terror you get in IsraHell you can and will be targeted by Hezbollah at their leisure.

RichardD

I’ve looked at the Hezbollah video and am skeptical. The first missile missed and detonated in front of the vehicle somewhere. Where the second missile detonated is undetermined. Because it entered a cloud of smoke prior to detonation. Plus there’s a CCTV video of the vehicle evidently surviving the attack. And Hezbollah has so far withheld the video of the aftermath of the missile detonations. Which weakens their credibility.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1168632155708231682

RichardD

I haven’t seen anyone debunk this video. And I fact checked it. The only thing that I haven’t been able to confirm is where the gate is. It should be visible from the sat imaging. But I haven’t located it yet. But it’s not a real big gate. So it may be a resolution issue.

RichardD

No it’s not. It’s a screenshot from the video.

Tiresia Branding

this is at least the sixth version of the facts we listen from Israel. Find an agreement dear trolls :-D

RichardD

Then debunk it rather than engaging in childish name calling. I’ve looked at the sat images. Everything checks out.

Tiresia Branding

are you who need to demonstrate something. Good luck

RichardD

Really?

I’ve provided judicial quality evidence that will stand up in a court of law until it’s disproven by superior evidence. So you’re the one who needs to demonstrate something, not me.

Tiresia Branding

surely can be a proof in your outlaw fake nation :-D

RichardD

I’m an American. And it would be admissible at the USSC. And the ICJ.

Tiresia Branding

my little troll, Houthi’s videos can teach you something about ATGMs
https://youtu.be/agyEyEwci3E

RichardD

How does that prove that the IDF APC was hit or that the CCTV video is fake?

RichardD

Where is the proof that the second Hezbollah missile wasn’t a miss? The first one clearly missed and detonated to the left front of the vehicle. And the second one detonated in the cloud made by the one that missed.

Tiresia Branding

are you serious? No time stamp; and an unidentified vehicle that appeared out of nowhere is a proof? LOL

RichardD

The video shows an HE explosion and the APC drive by with the cloud dissapating in the same place. It’s far more evidence of the vehicle’s condition than anything that Hezbollah provided, which was nothing. In a court of law it would be both admissible and superior evidence.

Uncle Meat (meet john doe)

I was skeptical, as is only normal, but seeing this dude’s enthusiasm, spamming that video at least 3x on this thread, I’m not having very many doubts now to Hizbollah’s claim to the contrary. Propaganda tends to have that effect on people with above 50 IQ, ie BS detector functioning.

Redadmiral

Jew Propaganda shrouded neath “indo media” smell the coffee and wtfu

RichardD

Name calling and nonsense doesn’t disprove judicial quality evidence that the APC and crew survived not one, but two near misses.

RichardD

This is a screenshot from the video played at .25 speed showing the center of the fireball as it was contracting to the left front of the vehicle about a second after the detonation as the flash was dying down and the vehicle was entering the cloud of smoke. The armored truck had traveled about 1 vehicle length by this time towards the detonation. The first missile clearly missed, as did the second which detonated a considerable distance behind the vehicle.

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b47c3c77ae857d106448ef6787928d14f8ae24625a65ab157f54c3546356492.png

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EveryoneIsBiased

I too am pretty sceptical. On both sides versions.

Israel first abandons the border in 1 4-5 KM distance, and then a top IDF general should drive right on the border next to Hezbollah positions? Dont make sense at all.
And Hezbollah cut that video right after the impact. They could have shown the aftermath, especially from the other positions on that road.
In this situations of psychological warfare one needs to provide proof, and hezbollah sure know that.
And when Israeli soldiers die, just like US soldiers, sooner or later the Army has to disclose their death, even though they take some days for that.
The death would have leaked into Israeli media by now anyway i fear.
The Wolf is a very good APC/MRAP, and fatally hitting it with an ATGM at that target speed is pretty damn hard. That seems why Hezbollah planed to double tap it with a second ATGM, which clearly did not hit. Missing with the second ATGM may prove to be a reason if it is later confirmed that no IDF died.
Nasrallah only threatend one retaliation, but it seems their self imposed time window for the attack was to short, which seems to have let to pressure to find a target after IDF removed all their troops on the border.
A hint that the strike was not successfull may be that now Hezbollah plans to down a drone, even though Nasrallah first only promised one retaliation.
Sadly we will likely have to wait quite some time to get to the truth, if we ever hear it at all.
Both sides always lie and deny as part of their strategy.

We should not get fooled to believe either sides story here 100%.

RichardD

I’m guessing that it was an older model missile where the operators have to fly it all of the way to target. Rather than the newer computerized fire and forget version. The manual missiles are ok at shorter ranges. But long shots are more difficult. Especially against a moving target.

Once the first one missed and detonated. The vehicle drove into the cloud making it invisible to the second missile operator. Making a difficult shot a pot shot.

There are fire and forget versions available. And the next time the crew may not be so lucky.

RichardD

Pull up this video on the YouTube site and tap on the screen. Go to the 3 dot settings icon in the upper right hand corner of the video and tap on it. Tap on play back speed and choose .25 and watch the video in slow motion. Both misses are clear as day. The first missile detonated to the left front of the vehicle and the second detonation is to the right rear of the vehicle. Case closed.

https://youtu.be/PQ20ZuVNQrY
-“,

RichardD

This is a screenshot from the video played at .25 speed showing the center of the fireball as it was contracting to the left front of the vehicle about a second after the detonation as the flash was dying down and the vehicle was entering the cloud of smoke. The armored truck had traveled about 1 vehicle length by this time towards the detonation. The first missile clearly missed, as did the second which detonated a considerable distance behind the vehicle.

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b47c3c77ae857d106448ef6787928d14f8ae24625a65ab157f54c3546356492.png

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Ceasar Polar
RichardD

You’re a liar and a fool ignoring quality evidence disproving your nonsense. You’re sick in the head.

Ceasar Polar

True hasbara troll. Just look for yourself, fully blown up WOLF. Stop covering facts: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dee838c87f124b70bd612d4161bd2324a88dc2bc5b08193f2929dc2994f19a1a.jpg

RichardD

That’s a missile detonation. The first missile clearly missed and the drive by video is proof that the vehicle survived both detonations.

RoyDSkeptic

They need a German engineer to redesign that ridiculously overbolted front tire. They get a flat and they’re out of service. ‘For the lack of a (horseshoe) nail the battle was lost.’

Real Anti-Racist Action

The whole thing was caught on a very close CCTV camera for building security. Watch the video folks.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1168632155708231682

Davki

Oh please! Don’t know where that was filmed but it certainly has nothing to do with Hezbollah’s operation.

Uncle Meat (meet john doe)

He seems all too excited to post this here. Political motive much?

Ceasar Polar

You are FaKe NeWs.
Hasbara troll detected.
Obviously fake material.

Spit

The Window, Suggests Israeli soldiers sit in the middle Further suggesting the rear half of the Machine is all Kevlar.

If one wants to destroy that thing a double action explosive is to be used.
to be exact Mining explosive instantly followed by a bag of needles.

Ford Fairlane

I believe the Israeli version until I’ve seen definite proof.

Uncle Meat (meet john doe)

Lazy much? Did you forget the /s tag perhaps? Is that you Tommy? lol

Redadmiral

ELINT News is being peddled on this thread as “a verification” for the supposed “failed Hezbollah” attempt on the Squatters APC. ELINT is an acronym for ELotronic INTelligence = ELINT which is part of what ORG ? None other than the N fuckin SA. For the dimwits that are using it that equals NSA Doh……………..

russ

Hezbollah claims they killed a senior general Somestein. Israel says not so. In a couple of weeks Israel will claim general Somestein was killed by a bird strike… just like the F35.

Ceasar Polar

Business as usual for zionazis

hvaiallverden

Listen, I have my self seen TOWs fired, live, and its NOT that easy to hit anything/whatever you aim at, it requries expirience and that alone dont grow on trees, shitheads, and usually they have an modus where they can switch to IR/UV, and smoke/dust dont mean much, its the man aiming that matters, keep it steady, since the missile is really fast, and watch the Houtis video and you get it, its not as plain as it may seem.

ISISrael always denies everything, until its glearingly obvious and even then they denie everything, and just look at what happens after the shoot out, they have found out that this is maybe to hot to handle, and the Gate video can be everything, shows us nothing, and I doubt that this vehicle was so spottless as it turned out in that video, so close to an detonation as it was in the Hezb video, that alone is prof enough for me to dismiss the IDF counter propaganda as usual they make them self just to be idiots.

I also guess, since the IDFs forces drawback is aparent that the causaltys must have been high ranked officers, nobody likes to loose seniors, that alone is an prime target, and very costly for the scums of this earth, so I am confident that the general indeed was killed, nobody comes from such an attack without some problems and certanly not the vehicle.
Houtis have also taken out Wankeedoodle Abrams, with good old fasion RPGs.
Reminds me of an saying we had in the times I was in the Norwegian forces, whats in the backpacks of our officers, and deepes in the sack was an pair of snikers, so they could run/destert much faster into Sweden or maybe Finland, in the times where we are suposedly there to stop the red army, hehe, even we the cannon fodder knew it was certain death, and our garison was menth to last for somewhat 10-12 hourse, yup, 5 batalions, and if you survived the first day, you where an veteran.
IDF as I have said it, before, will be crushed, airforce or not, that alone isnt helping, just look around,, wars are always done/won by foot.
I was an infaterist (MG3), the real deal, I would piss on specs and so called snpiers, coward rats, the real warrior is the infatery, and IDF have non, Hezb have thousands, highly expirienced infantery, nothing beats that.

I expect more coming, but not for now.

peace

Ceasar Polar

True. You dont wars with air force alone. Ground forces is what wins wars still.

Saddam Hussein

Oy vey.. .Burger tax dollars at work.

The Farney Fontenoy

The IDF went from saying 5 troops were rushed to hospital to “only a flat tyre was suffered”, Netanyahu screwed this up very badly, he really thought Hezbollah wouldnt hit back, too used to shooting children.

Lavrenty Beria

Where’s the burning wreck with the black smoke and exploding ammo? My money is on Trophy countermeasure defeating the mudders missiles.