Israel To Redraw ‘Red Lines’, To Expand Operations In Syria: Media

Well believing or not I’m happy to leave as your personal choice. In addition to that, we can try to see the nuances of the situation. Without Russian intervention, the black flag of jihad would almost certainly have flown over Damascus already. But it is what it is, and there’s no doubt that Syria is in a very rough place.

Dude… you make way too much of the word “partners”. The word partners, when translated from Russian is significantly different from the way it is used in English. In engish language, the word partner suggests friendship/alliance/good relations/intimate etc. A more accurate translation would be something like the word “counterparts”.

Basically anyone in the world that Russia has any sort of diplomatic interaction with whatsoever, no matter how close or how strained, can be considered a “partner”. The word’s meaning really doesn’t go any deeper than that. I assure you with 100% certainty that nobody in China is taking offense to the Russians using the term “partners” when referring to Americans.

Seriously, this obsession over the “partners” terminology bullshit has been pointed out and explained by Russian speakers on this board multiple times already. Give it a rest. He doesn’t “mean” anything by use of that word, the word just has a slightly different usage in the Russian language.

Again, you can probably think of it as similar to the word “counterparts” going forward.

It is similar the poorly worded “translation” of some Iranian leaders who many in the western press suggested wanted to “destroy Israel off the map” when in reality a more accurate translation was that the “regime occupying Jerusalem should fade from the pages of history”. Sometimes, certain statements are very difficult to directly translate from one language to another without butchering the intent or content of the speaker of the original language. And in other cases, even when there is a direct translation from a word or phrase in one language to another, the actual meaning of the 2 words are very different when you take into account the context that particular word is used when it’s used in their native language.

You could ask for needed reforms making fx Syria to a modern and productive state in the world economics.

In stead of using the Ramadan prayings for asking others, You as number one should help Yourself.

You are like children only experts in blindfolding and killing each other blaming them for doing no changes Yourself.

You do have choises, buit even declaring Syria is kind of oil-nation with kurds and americans as thieves, You are not even able to produce simple plasticbuckets even You can by used machines for it by internet and delievered to the door.

The money is in what You do with it – not just selling it.

PYD has ideas too. Almost all Your agriculture is from ancient times too. The water evaporates by so many open channels and soon will make many areas salty. Furthermore Turks seemes to take more and more themselves.

Most people know its much cheeper growing 10 hektars giving 40 times back then 40 hektars giving 10 times back. By that You have space to grow more and fields almost all can be mechanised.

By that , You also make homogene products and Middle East close by do import a lot of food, even they do export too. But by that and cooled trucks You can make an export as well as educate the many, which now work hard for almost nothing.

I also do remember, You by no rain several years ago lost a lot of forrests and bushes and by that the sandstorms hit harder. So by reduced but better growing, You have space and time for making new ones and many of them gives something back.

Very much of that is not expensive and You have many unimployed, which can owe their needed dayli meal in stead of just giving them, what You have for free or try to work slow and drink long time tea to pretend, all has a job.

And of course I forget women are like that even worse, for You keep them down to make them not as clever as the men figting each other verbal ad well as with guns.

So You do have very good choices for being much stronger Yourself by Yourself.

Even the unrealistic morons of Yours should see, that evaporating Israel has no chance as long as You raise Your inhabitants as You do in no activity and innovation.

Your armies is a very good mirror for, what the rest is too. Tempting to campare with YPJ women, which handle weapons well, when they get the normal conditions for education in stead og being kept, raised and sold as cattle or cars.

Russia is starting to look a whole lot more attractive as a major economic partner than the unstable, reactionary USA. Europe is finally waking up to who their best trading partners will be. America leaving the Iran agreement and ruining billions of investment by European firms in Iran has been a wake up call..

I regularly agree with things you say, and rolls my eyes at Western assumptions of its superiority, but: alcohol in Russia is an imported Western vice? Thou must be joking, even at its loopiest the USSR made no such claim. Same deal for gambling in China. Given, say, how many jihadists from the Russosphere need to be cleaned up in Syria, clearly *not* all is well with social health at home, and kudos for Russia if they finally become sufficiently grown up to admit this.

I would rather have homosexuality, gay parades, casinos, alcohol, and atheism… none of which are any of my business, but someone else’s life choices, rather than some brutal medieval suffocating totalitarian ideology dictating to me and to everyone else how to lead every minute aspect of our lives.

That is your choice of course, but not everyone is amicable to living in a cesspool. If you are raising children, it gives you more of a perspective.

It is always a slippery slope too once the moral rot and decay has set in. I mention the obvious vices, but there is a lot more coming on the horizon. Where do you draw the line? Moral ambivalence because it may not effect you personally is typical of the narcissistic thinking we see so prevalent in today’s society.

Well again, you don’t seem to see the “narcissistic thinking” is actually prevalent in your way of thinking in much the same way that you accuse everyone else of having. There is nothing more narcissistic than proclaiming that you and your personal comforts and prejudices of… as you quote “not wanting to live in a cesspool” in any way justify your inclination to suggest that all other individuals in society that live around you should be forced to live their own personal lives in a way that you approve of. That makes you the oppressor and the instigator, not the other way around.

Take the so called “vices” that you have cited. I am not a homosexual, I do not participate in gay parades, I don’t gamble or go to casinos (except on rare occasions), I rarely drink alcohol, and I am not an atheist (although I am also not particularly “religious”. I prefer to refer to myself as “non-affiliated”).

However I also understand that some people in society are homosexuals and they prefer to have intercourse or intimate relationships with a person of the same. Is someone forcing me to be attracted to other men? Is someone telling me that heterosexuality is immoral? It is none of anyones business who I am attracted to or who I have intimate relations with, and it is equally none of my business if another man is attracted to another man or another woman is attracted to another woman. If I don’t like or approve of that kind of thing, there’s a very simple solution. I just don’t participate in whatever homosexual activities that homosexuals engage in. I mind my own fucking business just like they mind theirs. It is the epitome of narcissism for me to suggest that because I do not approve or am repulsed by someone else’s personal life choices that I should therefore have overbearing control over that other person’s life. It’s none of my business.

Same thing with “gay pride parades”. I don’t like or particularly care for gay pride parades? You know what I do? It’s called “don’t participate”. Nobody is forcing you to participate in a gay pride parade, or any sort of parade. Just don’t go, its not a big deal. If someone were to force children to participate in a parade without their parent’s consent, that would be a completely different story and a massive intrusion into your own personal life. Again, the overarching principle is very simple, which is that in the same way that noone has any place in forcing you to observe a religious fast or participate in a parade, you have absolutely no place in dictating to someone that they should not be allowed to observe their own religion or enjoy some parade.

Now of course things do get somewhat complicated when you start confronting more complicated scenarios, and in different situations and different circumstances warrant different “lines” to be drawn. For instance, when it comes to any sort of protest. Let’s say somebody doesn’t like you and they want to protest you. Well, where do you draw the line? Where should they be allowed to protest? How should they be allowed to protest? etc etc. Obviously it would depend on a lot of factors and a line has to be drawn somewhere, but that line should be drawn based upon some sound principles like the one I outlined earlier.

For instance, someone criticizing you online or picketing/criticizing your views in the public sphere would under most reasonable circumstances be considered ok. However, when somebody crosses the line, such as violating your privacy, issuing threats, going to your home/business and clearly doing things that can be reasonably interpreted as harassment and interfering with your personal life. To simply say that because something is a “slippery slope” and therefore no slope should be allowed is the epitome of arrogance and has been an argument used for ages to justify some of the most brutal crackdowns and repressions throughout history. That same “slippery slope” argument has been used by Taliban to justify forcing women to wear burkas, the Saudis to segregate the sexes, and racists to justify repression and slave ownership, all because they didn’t want their particular surrounding society to become whatever they thought of as a “cesspool”.

The biggest problem by far throughout history, and the source of most human conflicts and unspeakable suffering (outside of resource scarcity) has not been “cesspools” or so called “moral decay” (as defined by whatever self centered tyrant was uttering these phrases at the time), but by power hungry, self centered narcissists who want to dictate to OTHER people how they must live their personal lives.

Gay pride and casinos were never responsible for the mass slaughter of other human beings. Despots, fundamentalists, and overly zealous morality tyrants have.

Me saying this is not a reflection of “narcissistic thinking of todays society”, but rather a result of being able to ponder and reflect upon what it would be like for someone to put you and the ones you love on the receiving end of some absurd accusations that declare you as being a component of some “cesspool” or pronounce that your personal way of life is one of “moral decay” and should be usurped by force.

Very limited perspective. Many more are there – more or less.

Russia and Iran are not allied more then Churchill and Stalin was and You also forget EU and probatly Turks even they have turle shield.

OH, there we go guys…. its about time the conspiracy fantasies and delusions on the comments section reached epic proportions. And now we have it… “REPTILIANS”. I was waiting for that shit to come along.

ONLY THOSE ON TOP OF THE TARGET GET THE FLAKS.

Definitely not. Modern Zionism is neither an expression of traditional Judaism (indeed not all jewish sects agree with it), nor a consequence of WWII. It has a common origin in time and place with other central-European ethnonationalisms, and this is not a coincidence: if Serbs, Germans, and Hungarians can have a country for their own race why not jews, the thinking was. The Zionist World Congresses were held well before anybody’d heard of Hitler, and formulated a dream: “After we chase the Arabs out, the land lies wide open for us”. The early Zionists knew *exactly* what they were doing, they just decided that a bit of deception would be prudent to get the major powers of the day to support them.

Yes bad things happened to jews several times, but not only to them. Nobody lost more than the Russian people at the hands of both Hitler and the Georgian Stalin, but they never seem to merit special consideration in the lands of their butchers. And there is something deeply dishonest in the attitude of most jews, in that they skip the part where their families only survived WWII thanks to the sacrifices of Russian patriotism; this just doesn’t register–the way the Talmud sees it, the goy owes the jew, and it cannot be changed.

Precisely!