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Written by Drago Bosnic, independent geopolitical and military analyst
During a press briefing after the 79th session of the UN General Assembly on September 28, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov was asked to comment on reports about Turkey’s potential resale of the Russian-made S-400 SAM (surface-to-air missile) system. As there are no official reports about this issue, Lavrov initially said he had no comment, but added that “each of our weapon sales agreements includes a clause on the end user certificate”, pointing out that “handling a product supplied with a certificate that states the initial recipient as an end user would require the consent of the initial seller”. This was a clear message to Ankara that such resales without Russian consent would be illegal. It’s critically important that Turkey gets the memo, as it has the propensity to illegally resell weapons that were supplied to its military. Serbia recently had issues with this, as Ankara resold MLRS munitions it bought from Belgrade to the Neo-Nazi junta forces.
Back in 2017, Russia and Turkey signed a $2.5 billion deal on the purchase of the S-400 SAM system. In response, the United States expelled Ankara from the JSF (Joint Strike Fighter) program, effectively banning the sale of troubled F-35 fighter jets. Since then, Washington DC has been antagonizing Turkey, imposing various sanctions and restrictions, particularly on military cooperation. This includes the refusal to allow the modernization of F-16 fighter jets, leaving the Turkish Air Force technologically far behind its principal opponents in the area, particularly Greece, which kept its fleet not only up to date, but also modernized it heavily with purchases of new gear. Initially, Ankara insisted it would not give up on its S-400 systems. However, in recent months, there have been numerous reports that it’s secretly negotiating the return to the JSF program. Such deals are certainly not out of the ordinary, as Erdogan allowed Sweden to join NATO in return for F-16 modernization.
The latest reports regarding the S-400 in Turkish service suggest that the country is distancing itself from the Russian-made SAM system, including by omitting it from national air defense projects. Back in early August, reports surfaced about the so-called “Steel Dome” program designed to enhance Turkish air defense capabilities. Described as a “system of systems” as it integrates several air defense assets, the “Steel Dome” is essentially Turkey’s take on multilayered SAM systems. This includes around a dozen projects that are either in development or already in service with the Turkish military. However, the S-400 was excluded from the program, despite being by far the most capable air defense system in Ankara’s service. Back in early August, Turkish businessman and politician Cavit Caglar, who also served as the Minister of State in the early 1990s, suggested that Turkey could sell its Russian-made S-400 SAM systems to third parties, such as India or Pakistan.
This prompted many to start speculating on how Russia would react to such a move and what implications could this have for Russian-Turkish relations. Worse yet, quoting the Turkish Cumhuriyet daily, Forbes reported that some officials suggested that the S-400 could be “put in boxes” and then “inspected” by US personnel. By the end of August, pro-government outlets such as the Daily Sabah had to resort to damage control and publish rebuffs. Namely, on August 29, Turkish officials stated that “there is no change in [their] position amid recent speculation that Ankara was keen to keep S-400 air defense missile systems in storage in return for the US lifting its ban on F-35 fighter jets”. However, when asked whether Turkey was working on the return to the JSF program and the resumption of F-35 purchases, its Defense Minister Yasar Guler said that “talks between Ankara and Washington DC continued on the matter”. This suggests that the reports aren’t entirely unfounded.
What’s perhaps most disturbing is the involvement of Victoria Nuland, one of the most infamous war criminals in the ruling US oligarchy. Namely, earlier this year, she said that Washington DC is “open to welcoming Turkey back into the F-35 program if the issue over the S-400s is resolved”. Given the fact that she was one of the architects of the Maidan coup that installed the Neo-Nazi junta and effectively jumpstarted the NATO-orchestrated Ukrainian conflict, nothing good can come from her involvement. There’s been a lot of speculation on how exactly Ankara could return to the JSF program, including reports that the Kiev regime could get the S-400. However, one thing is certain – as long as Turkey operates the Russian-made long-range SAM system, the US is virtually guaranteed to prevent Ankara’s potential purchases of the F-35. Allowing the US/NATO to inspect the S-400 could be an alternative, but it’s highly unlikely that Moscow wouldn’t find out about such a massive breach of contract.
Despite reports that neighboring Greece supposedly already transferred its own S-300PMU1 SAM systems (one of the S-400’s direct predecessors) to the Neo-Nazi junta, Athens is adamant this isn’t true, suggesting that the two old rivals still cherish their Russian-made air defenses, as they’re far more capable than the US/NATO-sourced systems such as the extremely overhyped “Patriot”. However, since Greece already sent weapons directly to the Kiev regime, Washington DC approved the sales of the latest military tech to Athens, including the troubled F-35 fighter jets. Thus, Turkey might be desperate to match this and at least allow the US to inspect the S-400s. A possible loophole for Ankara might be to allow American inspections on Turkish territory, possibly at US bases in the country, particularly the Incirlik Air Base which is largely under USAF control (even nuclear weapons are stored there). This could be an alternative to transferring the S-400 directly to other NATO member states.
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i find it hard to believe that the us hasn’t already “inspected” the s400. conversely, can the americans trust the turks with the f-35? a scenario where russians inspect the f-35 is also not very far fetched. all it takes is: russian inspectors dressed as turkish aviation mechanics in a highly coordinated clandestine operation. turkey is known to play all sides.
miloslav slino.
nasty catch catch catch always a trap a sales pitch trick from the slick trick stick
don’t worry the turks never got the latest firmware upgrade
are you catholic protesting the islamic istanbul conquest of constantines collapsed eastern roman empire?
are you jeffrey epstein hiding in tel aviv mossad safe house???
and the turks wouldn’t get the f-35 with all the latest technology either. not even close. i suspect that russians have very little need to inspect the f35s anyway as they are not superior to any russian 5th gen bird. and i also suspect that the s400 is already tweaked to target it at long range.
thats right, its only export quality. nothing like the domestic
don’t worry, russia can disable it remotely even cause the system to self destruct!!! in any case, if turkiye stabs russia in the back, russia can always help turkeiyes sworn enemies to exact a devestating revenge!!!
since they bought the system to defend themselves from an attack from the us/uk/is it is hard to believe that they would risk letting them inspect it but the turks might have reverse engineered part of it to produce some kind of local equivalent.
the story about the f-35 doesn’t make sense since turkey is already developing its own 5th gen fighter (tai tf kaan) and that the prototype already completed test flight.
usual bs by drago the udba guy.
usual bs from a al baghdadi guy.
better remain friend with russia than the bankrupt disunited states of a, purveyor of second rate weapons!
have you had your head up clyde’s backside wally? wakey wakey wally golly the world’s just about bankrupt.
wakey wakey jeffrey epstein.
what’s that smell, you still trying to extract that catholic preist from yer backside?
us is not the world.
putin and russia proved to the world once again how stupid and naive they really are. selling a s400bto a turk….good god.
youre a cesspool alright. imo. goog god! awww mein gotte dumbkopf
i find it highly suspect that turkey would even want the f-35 considering everything that is known by military experts. also turkey wants to join brics. and there’s a reason why the americans never gave ukraine any f-35’s and it has nothing to do with price. if they were confident that they could fly undetected and have successful missions — but that is not the case.
us does not want to expose the f-35s to russian s-400s. forget shooting down an f-35, a mere detection of so-called ‘invisible’ f-35 jets by the russian air defence systems could crash the sales lockheed martin and dent the great american pride.
the f-35 is not that great. it is an awkward design. its small wings and fat fuselage will compromise its maneuverability. in a fly-off with an f-16, the f-35 could not cut the mustard. like previous designs that had to meet conflicting requirements, the f-35 is a jack of all trades, but a master of none. it would be eaten alive by a fighter that has been optimized for air combat from the beginning. the latest model of the mig 35 would have it for lunch.
isn’t that a big surprise? you get what you pay for don’t you.
the martins are part of my irish catholic family connections. they’re not really publicly involved so much anymore its lockheed really now publicly
there are many deadly venomous creatures i would trust before i would trust a turk.
i wouldn’t trust any snake in the grass.
turks got rewarded with an earthquake for their last betrayal…
there is a saying to never turn your back on a turk or he will stick a knife in it.
are you catholic wanting to crusade against the islamic empires takeover of the eastern roman empire? well wake up. it s just more if their divide and conquer when they know war is their most profitable business
never trust the turks or the zios! never!
hehehe, the yankees and eu keep stabbing them in the back, no eu membership, making agreements to keep migrants, the isr/pal situation. who’s the biggest sucker to get duped with a yankee carrot to supply these aircraft.
buying ultra expensive american junk? it is up to them 😄
yeah, they’d be better off buying pakistani nukes…
if true, stupid move. f35s are flying money shredders, pilots are essential, can be compromised, s400 is easy to train peeps on, versatile, and easy to maintain, a much better investment. turkey can do with its bayraptor drones, pretty much all the air missions it needs for the enemies it currently has in form of israeli proxy kurds.
s400 is crap, erdogan knows 🇷🇺=🤡 😆😆😆
no,on the contary turkish drones are crap against the russian military,completely.
why, why on earth would you want an f35. more maintenance than flying. the perfect pile for the mic,
i don’t think it’s true. erdogan can’t even upgrade the f-16’s after the s400
nato spat. why would he buy f35’s knowing that the supply chain is 100% weaponized for these planes. and everyone knows that the f35 is overrated. it’s a great aircraft but certainly 1) overpriced; 2) not as stealthy as advertised 3) cost of ownership is immense
the neo nazi propandist , drago the shithole has less neurons than a chicken
.the master parrot from sf, the neo nazi propagandist
f-35 is said to be a fiasco, thus why being so eager to get some?
f35 is a bluff that us dont want to expose but just sell it as the best wings out there. turkey wings are old and need immediate upgrade and they are falling for it instead of developing missile tech far cheaper and more accurate. s400 is the most advanced system in market but needs support from additional systems vs multi missiles barrage. there is no chance turkey to antagonize another major player.
f35s about as usefull as the apple 5g phone but without 2-3g credo to cater emergency calls =pfft!