Iran And Israel Are Gearing Up For A War

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The Greater Middle East has been gearing up for a new war.

The Iranian parliament announced that it is preparing a draft resolution on a “defense and security treaty for the Axis of Resistance”. By signing the treaty with its allies, states and non-state actors alike, Iran will officially create its own NATO-styled military bloc in the face of the everyday growing chances of a direct military confrontation with the US-Israeli alliance.

The unofficial Axis of Resistance is, essentially, on its way to becoming a security-guaranteeing organization that will have a lot of success stories to claim.

In recent weeks, Iran’s allies and proxies have had significant success. A vivid example of this are Yemen’s Houthis. Additionally to advances on the ground, they vowed to develop, apparently with help from Iran, even more deterrence weapons to counter Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

They also pushed a base in Southern Yemen forcing the UAE forces to evacuate from it, as it said that the Saudi-UAE coalition cannot expect to stay safe as long as it is in Yemen. Such successes in the conditions of the strict naval, land and even air blockade stand a testament to the fact that some sort of higher-level organization is taking place behind the scenes.

Iran also improved its positions in Syria and Iraq, despite Israel and US attempts to stop its movements. Tehran expanded its intelligence capabilities near Jordan and Israel, while US supply convoys are being regularly blown up in Iraq.

On the wider, international front, there is hope for the Iran Nuclear Deal with Joe Biden in the White House. A full renewal is quite suspect, since Iran said that it was only possible after the lifting of every sanction, and it is still unclear if the new globalist rulership of the US is willing to go that far in attempting to de-escalate the situation.

Israel expects that it will not happen, as the IDF prepares to hold massive drills, simulating a multi-front war. Every branch of the military is planned to take part, and the forces will push both in the north and the south. The drill will simulate the “worst-case scenario” conflict.

The Israeli leadership does not hide that this is a message to Iran and its allies that an open war is not out of the question and Tel Aviv wishes to show its potential strength to deter any preemptive aggression.

Iran, however, is likely not discouraged, as the Trump Administration’s “maximum pressure campaign” apparently failed to achieve any of its strategic goals. During the past years Tehran’s position improved, and it is using the chance of re-inventing itself as an alternative center of power in the Middle East.

The core of the Axis of Resistance has been consolidated and gained new strength. The Iranian-led alliance, if it’s really created and successes in attracting at least a neutral stance towards it global players like China or Russia will likely shift the balance of power in the region, and potentially bring forth a cautious normalization of events. That remains to be seen in the future, as all sides also show their readiness for heavy hostilities.

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Frank

Frankly, the Zionist child killer cowards will be hit soon, no doubt about it.

<>

Been saying it for a while now, the only question who makes the first move.

Frank

But you will still be in the basement in diapers ranting.

Pave Way IV

I can’t read Gantz very well from the western MSM. He seems more militant than Netanyahu but I have no idea. Is he gearing up for something when he’s PM (October?) or is he just another blowhard general? For that matter, is he still the current head of the Israeli military? Not sure what his title was. I’m thinking of the abrupt shift in Saudi/UAE and Israeli relations. Netanyahu or Gantz either behind that or more approving vs. the other?

Servet Köseoğlu

Bravo Sierra..both-sides can not risk a direct war.???

Occams

Israel doesn’t have to. They own Amerika, so Amerika will have to fight it. And that’s also why the military made no ‘move’ the other day;

THEY WANT A MAJOR CONFLICT.

It’s called Job Security

Joakim Normen

Before the yanks get there Israhell will be in ruins, so yes they do

Frank

It certainly appears so. Israel is a toxix brand that has not been able to live at peace with anyone and now is headed for doom, and a well deserved one.

Occams

Ooooooo…Looks like a struck a nerve here telling the OBVIOUS truth.

Just watch, gang. IF – and it may or may not happen, as in anything – but IF it goes down, you can find me – Occams – and apologize.

And so far, my predictions – starting in Aug 2019 on the Cov!d1984 hoax (I’m not sure about censors here) have been almost 100% accurate. Anyone who follows my posts knows this, too.

Ashok Varma

No so sure as US will die for Jews now.

Occams

I really wouldn’t bet on it. Especially if I was a troop

Ashok Varma

I have been to Iran many times and don’t believe that they will directly attack a dying Israel that is beset with problems. Iranians will strategically wear out the Zionists. Iran is a huge country of 84 million and the Zionists are barely 6 million and mostly with dual passports who will cut and run when things get too tough. Iranian influence in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon is now irreversible. The only way Iran could have been checked was a Zionist land invasion of Syria and Lebanon and occupation, which is beyond their pale.

Fog of War

War is coming.

Saso Mange

Cmon please why u adopt Hasbara as narrative. Israel is not Iranian rival, it is simply too small to ever be considered as one. I am sick of reading ”Israel threatens Iran”, ”Israel war with Iran” – reality is that Israel is living on borrowed time ;)

HiaNd

so Iran have made quite few threats after so many killed Iranian nuke scientist and after all that ….nothing happened…not even bleep.
if they are so “mighty” why they didn’t revenge those criminal assassinations, specially because everybody was expecting that outcome…even IsraHell?

Saso Mange

What threats? They said they will make revenge but WHEN, HOW, ON WHOM… Those details are not revealed. So the West is left with a lot of assumptions about Iranian reaction, as usual.
That is Persian wisdom for new age colonialists.

Emad Irani

you are still eating shit after I blew up your ass already while you had no arguments anymore ? Tell me how Irans Nuclear Program is surviving after 133466583 assassinations??

HiaNd

I have no interest talking to you any longer.
Iran is country of NO IMPORTANCE, Iran is NOTHING compered to Russia!
China and India are true partners for Russia.
Iran has nothing Russia needs.

Emad Irani

Then keep your partners for yourself good luck with that, Middle East is banned zone for you. Pls help the Indians to clean their streets. We only care about Middle East not India or China (China has stolen Bulava missile blueprints by the way hahaha)

HiaNd

just big mouth аnd nothing else, thаt’s whаt you аre

Arch Bungle

Like you then. Just screaming stupid noise all over the forums like a PMS bitch.

Frank

Frankly, he is very peculiar troll with the IQ of an gnat and shallow ego of a Hollywood Blvd hooker. He is mentally unstable, one day he posts pro-Iran comments and then the next day to get attention start posting insults and nonsense. An uneducated uncouth and crass moron for sure :)

Arch Bungle

These are symptoms of Bi-Polar disorder or Manic-Depressive disorder.

My theory is that this week he didn’t get his state funded medical allowance.

Frank

He is also suffering identity crises, he wants to be Russian, without knowing even knowing basics about Russia or its changing demography and geo-strategic situation. Russia is very vulnerable and in US gunsights now.

Arch Bungle

Misguided youth from some former Soviet Republic. Probably some poor shitty place like Serbia.

(No offense to any Serbians in the house – love you guys!)

Frank

That is a fair conclusion. The Serbs are also suffering an identity crises as Vucic is a CIA agent and pushing the country into EU orbit, however the old JNA (Yugoslav army) is quite pro-Russia, so he is trying to play both sides.

Arch Bungle

Russia couldn’t even protect the Serbs, their so called “brothers” when NATO and Uncle Sam was bombing them in the streets during the Kosovo war.

It just stood by like a great big Cuck and watched the West rape those who believed in them.

JIMI JAMES

They were more under cia control back then,blame it all on gorbachev/cia!

Arch Bungle

Oh really? I thought Russia was such a great big amazing superpower, so much stronger than Iran?

Turns out the CIA had Russia by the balls all along … if you are to be believed.

JIMI JAMES

It was never shitty untill cia/clinton/hato deliberately set them up in 1999!

Arch Bungle

… and the Russians stood by and watched it happen.

JIMI JAMES

You know asswipes of cias,id clean 3-4 up then see who were the ones looking like fascist spastics in the end(PERIOD) pathedic gutless wonders,
Leave the man alone,atleast he ain’t a demented phsyco buttered boy like insolent nocando degenerate cia/soros menopaused,zealout pieces of sht,without any form to astound resolute sustainable economoic reforms
which is very well why you have no freedom at all,under you curse!

Matters not what the cowards say,what i say goes and that my friend is resolute,instead of revealing purpose, resort to hiding it because too afraid of own skins, insomuch as to know inside the other?

lie you may squeal you will,like they all fkn well did in my real world!

you defined the realm gets the more powerfull upvote without the bullsht!

You get the minus thats the sure sign you are gutless to defend your own letalone anyone else freedom (period)Either way truth is unbeateable!

Try toughen the fk up,before you will be the first targeted by your own kind,whom only too well you are willing and able to bendover to lgbtqs!

Hate me all you may,try to ridicule as always in my case is the sure sign self defeated fallacy based on mistrust n hate,cursed in their doings:
like it or not as in all my days,only true friends cared about others,
politial ideologists only care about ignorance,evil,stupidity and fear.

Conversely to understand all about hard pain,wish it on no one,not even all our enemies,at the turn of the friendly card:

Have such factuallly been in unarmed combat 1 on 1 with the far more menacing giants?
Thats my point,use need another several armys lotta you cia/pussis!

HiaNd

Me screaming?
Lavrov has said it clearly…Iran will not make their military outpost out of Syria to open front against IsraHell in Syria.
If you want to attack IsraHell, than do it from Iran.
Syria is Arab Sunni majority country!
They do not want Shia non-Arab country to colonize their country and use it against their will and interests.

Arch Bungle

Moron. Don’t you realise than Iran is in Syria at the invitation of the Syrian State?

You don’t, because you’re an idiot, that’s why.

Syria is Arab Sunni majority country!

They do not want Shia non-Arab country to colonize their country and use it

That is for the Syrians to say, not you or Russia.

You’re also a hypocrite. Russians aren’t wanted in Syria either – they’re there because there’s very little option in fighting ISIS.

As soon as ISIS is gone, Assad should boot the Russians and their bases out ASAP!

That’s because the American’s will want to break Syria as long as it hosts Russian bases. Russia is just a magnet for trouble in Syria.

HiaNd

“Syria would look” worse than the West Bank and all Iranians would be dead, if Russia didn’t come to save your sorry Shia arse in 2015!

In 2015 YOU were begging for Russian HELP REMEMBER?! You stupid Shia c u n t!!!
YOU were losing war in Syria and begging for Russian help!!!
——
Assad should do what Syrian ARAB people want him to do!
How about kicking out SHIA Persians?! And keeping world power Russia close as protection against NATO?
Iran cant protect them from NATO!
US and IsraHell want Iran out of Syria ONLY !
Russia must offer kicking Iran out of Syria in exchange for US leaving Syria!
If Russia finds agreement with US you are out!!

JIMI JAMES

Iran/hezbolla did nothing to stop the lgbtq fraternity hitting on assad but rather since russia was again invited by syria,then usa was checked!
Better late than never and infact the whole muslim world respects putin over the pro lgbtq incestrstrys of tommorows,to hell with cia speculations!

Arch Bungle

Are you related to Jens Holm, by any chance?

Arch Bungle

If you think India is a true partner of Russia you’re a real dumbass.

India is a US vassal. Russia is a poor sucker hoping India will be his friend but India is balls deep in serving Uncle Sam and israel.

HiaNd

India is still biggest customer of Russian weapons (much, much more than US), not to mention many nuke power stations and cooperation in the nuke energy development field, space industry etc.
India is future world power (unlike Iran) too big to have good relations only with one (US) side.

Arch Bungle

Meaningless.

India obeys the US’ every command when it comes to geopolitics.

Russia is just another shopping mall for India’s basics. In the end when Uncle Sam whistles, India comes running.

Russia has no political leverage over India – the USA has.

HiaNd

Yeah “meaningless” because Shia a$$hole say so!
” India’s basics“?!!?
Ha, ha, ha,ha,ha,hhhhah! They’re “high tech” just like Iran…they could hardly menage to build bad quality 4th generation fighter jet ( with all the parts bought from foreigners ).
They bought recently from Russia:
SU-30MKI “only” 300 (+upgrade to “Super Sukhoi” = SU-35)
T-90 all in all up to 1000 tanks
AK-203 Kalashnikov for ALL India’s Army,
“StrelA” MANPAD for ALL India’s Army,
S-400 system,
hundreds of Russian choppers,

to mention just the most important acquisitions!

India’s policy is to buy from BOTH sides, that’s why they buy FRENCH (not US) jets and Russian jets.
They bought S-400 DESPITE US SANCTIONS!
India has ZERO US fighter jets
So much out US”influence” in India !!!

and nov F**k off you m o r o n I had enough of your bullsh*t !

Arch Bungle

Unlike Russia, Iran is the only country to have struck American bases multiple times, with warnings since WW2.

Not even Russia has the balls to do that. In fact, The Russians just happily bent over and let Uncle Sam screw them – that’s why the USSR fell.

Gorby was happy sucking Uncle Sam’s balls, and happily sold out the USSR to the Jews and Americans. Dude still has a cumstain on his forehead from the experience.

Yeltsin sold his country to the Americans for a bottle of vodka, you can see him on T.V drunk from American bribes and ‘services’.

Russia is NOTHING like Iran in terms of courage and strength. Uncle Sam took the entire USSR down in a few decades.

Iran has stood tall for 40 years and Uncle Sam can do nothing about it!

HiaNd

You must know that with great power goes great responsibility for Russia (unlike Iran).
Russia must abstain much more often, then average country like Iran.
When Russia “strikes” somebody that country will not exist any more .
(Gorby should f u c k you because he is alleyways on your mind).
Iran is NOTHING comparing to Russia military might.

Arch Bungle

Syria is Arab Sunni majority country!

They do not want Shia non-Arab country to colonize their country and use it

That’s just a bullshit excuse from cowards who lost the cold war.

When Russia “strikes” somebody that country will not exist any more .

When Russia strikes any Western country IT will not exist anymore. That’s not Power, that’s DETERRENT.

HiaNd

“That’s not Power, that’s DETERRENT.”
Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!!!!!!!!!!

It is like saying ;”Arch Bungle is not moron he is just an idiot
You have won NOBEL prize for stupidity!!!
You are even more stupid than I could have imagine!!!

Arch Bungle

Russia is WEAK. The Americans knocked off SIX of Russia’s best diplomats and they could do nothing about it:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-diplomats-deaths-theories-putin-kremlin-a7602201.html

HiaNd

If Russia is “WEAK” than US and other 30 NATO countries are very badly informed. Because they are sitting on Russian border and are too scared to attack.
Just like “mighty” Iran they have only big mouth but nobody see them inaction !

Arch Bungle

You’ve got it upside down:

The entire NATO is sitting on Russia’s border and RUSSIA is to scared to attack.

They’re surrounding Russia in a strangulation manueovre, putting their weapons so close that Russia’s anti-missile defense will shortly be USELESS.

And every year, they get closer. Now they’re in Ukraine – and Russia can do NOTHING!

JIMI JAMES

Allready smashed them in ukraine back and they could do it again too fkn easy,so much for cias insolent gayto,mr under prepareds!

Arch Bungle

They smashed nothing. Instead Ukraine is smashed and NATO got want it wanted:

A base on Ukrainian soil, right up against the borders of Russia.

With Ukraine independent of EU influence and intact, at least Russia could count on a buffer.

Now the buffer is smaller, and getting smaller and more unstable.

Now Russia has a civil war on it’s borders.

Arch Bungle

You’ve got it upside down. 30 NATO countries are surrounding Russia in strangulation tactic and Russia is too weak to defend itself.

Every year, they get closer and closer …

HiaNd

Russia is sooooooooooooooo weak that US+30 countries are afraid to attack.
while if it was Iran on Russia’s place they would attack long time ago!!!

JIMI JAMES

No brainer back then however since 2008!
No,cias were smashed out of the southern regions,mission accomplished!

Hasbara Hunter

Russia…Iran….China & Others have been playing an intelligent game of chess up till know…sacrificing pawns….slowly progressing towards Checkmate instead of an Armageddon….

Arch Bungle

Sounds like Russia who allowed the Turks to shoot down their jet and did nothing about it. Not even a bleep.

HiaNd

Another US attempt to start war between Turkey and Russia
Used US – AWACS to target Russian bomber
The pilot who did that was put to trail including the Turk guy who killed Russian pilot (both in prison).
Turkey have officially apologized for what happened and paid for airplane and lost life.
The village in Syria where that killing (of Russian pilot ) has happened was raised to the ground by the Russian bombs.

JIMI JAMES

They stopped trade with turkey,this affected turkey far more than low iq cia dills dare have the guts to admit:obviously who never suffered hint of pain !

Arch Bungle

A few vegetable shops were out of produce for a while. That’s all that pilot’s life was worth.

After the fuss was over they were happily trading S400s again.

Arch Bungle

The Russians are PUSSIES. The turks killed a Russian diplomat ON TV and we didn’t hear a *peep* out of Putin and his gay friend Medvedev:

https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/russian-ambassador-shooter-turkey.jpg?w=800&quality=85

HiaNd

US-CIA did everything in their power to start war between Turkey and Russia
and have used all Turk terrorists (under their control) not only against Erdogan(in the coup) but also against Russia. Russia knew that it wasn’t Erdogan but US-CIA behind this killing.

Just like Iran KNOWS (and we all know) that all their scientists were killed by Israel’s hand (not some terrorists) and Iran does NOTHING !!!

Arch Bungle

That’s the story the Russians tell themselves to hide their cowardice.

Erdogan ordered the shootdown of that Russian jet personally.

The Turkish state engineered the killing of that Ambassador, and the Russians did nothing.

The Americans didn’t even let the Russians have Churkin’s body until they finished cooking the evidence on it … and Putin DID NOTHING.

Great big hairy cucks, that’s what they are …

HiaNd

Interpret however you want retard.
You think Russia is Iran….
Russia’s FSB (secret service ) knew about CIA – COUP against Erdogan long BEFORE coup even started.
They have saved Erdogan from certain death., and you think they didn’t know who killed Russian ambassador or shot that Russian bomber down and why?!!
Russia knows all CIA games in Turkey and Middle East and doesn’t fall in traps

JIMI JAMES

No it wasn’t erdogan but that real coward turkish ex pm who did(period)
Yous will not succeed to seperate turkey and russia ok,get the facts straight!
Putin? Do you honestly think you are a better fighter than the statesman?

Sorry,try for free soros sex change,drama queenz:

Arch Bungle

Are you related to jens holm, by any chance?

JIMI JAMES

That wanker looked like the spastic,unlike heterosexual russian whom laid on his back as any brave warroir ought to damn well do,sorry usa breeds poofs not russians,sort out your gender dude,before they sort you out too!

Arch Bungle

Jens … is that you?

Arch Bungle

Broke back Mountain, starring Reagan as the ‘Giver’ and Gorbachev as the ‘Receiver’:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYxwZ4MWcAAtKe5?format=jpg&name=4096×4096

JIMI JAMES

I like your more balanced perception about dictraitors!

Arch Bungle

There in that picture are two dick-traitors balancing each other out.

Arch Bungle

Russia couldn’t even protect the Serbs, their so called “brothers” when NATO and Uncle Sam was bombing them in the streets during the Kosovo war.

It just stood by like a great big CUCK and watched the West rape those who believed in them.

So who the F*** are YOU to point the finger at Iran, pisshead?

HiaNd

Russia was bankrupted country at the time just like Iran is (almost) now, they couldn’t help.
So who is Iran to pretend to be the big power which they are not even close?
I am the one who takes dump and piss straight into your filthy mouth, that is who I am.

StopIsraeliGenocideInPalestine

Yep – Israel is not a country it is the storm trooper entity of Zion.

erwin vercauteren

Iran has good cards and with allies like Russia and China on their side and being a part of the ( belt road initiative they can really make the bells going ringing in the two greatest sponsors of international terrorism ( US &Issrael

Diana Cornwell

That’s another thing I don’t understand. The Chinese already are selling and shipping all they wanted to Europe and the US through the cheapest route which is maritime shipping.
WHY would the Chinese go to the expense of building roads and railways through half a dozen countries and pay them duties and assorted taxes at each border?
It doesn’t make sense, does it?
I hope you’re not one of those crazy Iranians or Russians and you can come up with a cogent explanation?
Fingers crossed.

JIMI JAMES

It’s called free trade routes where each sovereign nation gets to contribute towards infastructures,we have no problem with that,Seens the men signed a significant free trade+ infastructure pact With turkey,not just in asia which kinda renders you need be updated to be on the right tracks or if your a phoney eu-epp tool aka traitor of the Commonwealth,depends on the nature of your stance,lest it be reiterated,

No future in fascism nor lgbtq,(God Save Our Gracious Queen)

Diana Cornwell

Yes, but don’t you see the point I’m making?
The (maritime) trade route exists already and it’s cheaper and safer, unlike this (more expensive and unreliable) belt road initiative which can be destroyed with a couple of bombs dropped on a railroad track. It doesn’t make sense to me to pay customs duties at each border crossing, either.
(The Union Jack is the most beautiful flag on the face of the earth ?)

Arch Bungle

The (maritime) trade route exists already and it’s cheaper and safer, unlike this

Are you serious? Please do some research, China is more vulnerable along the maritime sea route than overland routes.

You have things back to front and upside down.

Diana Cornwell

I don’t understand why you say this? There are no borders with customs and no armies to deal with in international waters?
Why would anyone impair or attack Chinese ships unless they wanted a real war? Then all landlines would be unsafe as well — and Europe would not be doing business with China whom they’d actually be fighting in such a case?

Arch Bungle

Would you rather deal with friendly customs with nations you have a free-trade agreement with or would you rather deal with having your ships attacked, embargoed or detained by a hostile power?

Actually, do read this paper first and then we can continue the discussion:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344897618_Is_the_Naval_Blockade_of_the_Straits_of_Malacca_a_Realistic_Option_for_India_An_Assessment

“The Straits of Malacca is the shortest sea rout z z between Persian Gulf suppliers of oil and key Asian markets. It links major economies such as Middle East, China, Japan, South Korea, etc. Being the 500 nautical mile funneled waterway, the Strait is only 1.5 nautical miles (2.8 km) wide at its narrowest point─ the Phillips Channel in the Singapore Strait. The Strait is not deep enough to accommodate some of the largest ships, mostly oil tankers, but it is significant as through the South China Sea it connects the Indian Ocean with the Pacific Ocean.

Very often, the blockade of the Straits of Malacca for disruption of Chinese energy sources and trade is being offered as a possible Indian strategic deterrence option against China in a conflict scenario. 1 With hardly any other deterrence options available to India, this strategic perception is gaining prominence in India’s own deterrence discourse. But opting for such measures would, at the foremost, require careful deliberations. In this process, a thorough analysis is required about this option of naval blockade of the Straits of Malacca”

… This is just India. The US Naval Academy is also producing studies evaluating the option of blockading Chinese shipping traffic.

Diana Cornwell

Thank you.
I will analyze the information you graciously provided before I make further comments.

Diana Cornwell

1. Those Turkic central Asian republics are populated by people who were the very reason the Wall of China was built. I wouldn’t call them “friendly” towards China. One of them (I forget which one) already has US military bases on its territory, doesn’t it?
2. In the medium- to long-run, trade is beneficial only to big international corporations and the governments they own and control. Its ultimate “benefit” to the average European or American citizen is lower wages, job insecurity and unemployment. It is not to the advantage of the average German that Volkswagen builds cars in China and exports them to Germany, hiring Chinese workers and firing German workers in the process. Same with Apple and American workers. The only people that benefit are the shareholders of these mega corporations.
International trade is deleterious to the ultimate wellbeing of the average folk inhabiting both the West and the East, lowering wages and standards of life everywhere, in the end.
If your life depends on making and selling something to a foreigner who competes with you for everything, that’s a losing proposition.
This big lie (free trade for big business is good for the little people whose rights and laws are rescinded in the process) which only profits the billionaires will not last more than another decade or so.

The Belt and Road Initiative is a nonsensical and uneconomical stupidity. It undermines the very economic foundations of western civilization.

It will implode in the next financial crisis which is about to hit us all like a global tsunami.

Why should the Chinese continue to produce and ship real and valuable goods and services to Europe and America in return for intrinsically worthless electrons in a central bank’s computers called dollars and euros?

How stupid is that?

Arch Bungle

Your post contains so many issues it’s hard to know where to begin fixing it. But let me give it a shot:

1. Those Turkic central Asian republics are populated by people who were the very reason the Wall of China was built.

I wouldn’t call them “friendly” towards China. One of them (I forget which one) already has US military bases on its territory, doesn’t it?

1. Do you realise you are more than a thousand years behind the times and that that the Chinese have not been building a wall to keep barbarians out for centuries?

(Incidently, only a buffoon like Trump still thinks a Wall can keep invaders out in this era – even the Chinese gave up on wall building centuries ago)

2. In the medium- to long-run, trade is beneficial only to big international corporations and the governments they own and control. Its ultimate “benefit” to the average European or American citizen is lower wages, job insecurity and unemployment. It is not to the advantage of the average German that Volkswagen builds cars in China and exports them to Germany, hiring Chinese workers and firing German workers in the process. Same with Apple and American workers. The only people that benefit are the shareholders of these mega corporations.

International trade is deleterious to the ultimate wellbeing of the average folk inhabiting both the West and the East, lowering wages and standards of life everywhere, in the end.

If your life depends on making and selling something to a foreigner who competes with you for everything, that’s a losing proposition.

This big lie (free trade for big business is good for the little people whose rights and laws are rescinded in the process) which only profits the billionaires will not last more than another decade or so.

So many problems with your statment, let me point out a few:

a) You are making an argument against Capitalism and in favour of Communism. So you should be aware that the entire system of Capitalism used by the UK, USA and EU is based on this model … China is not special here, it is simply participating in the same Capitalist system used to build the modern world.

b) So your argument says nothing about the strategic value of the BRI to China, which goes beyond Capitalism vs. Communism. In fact, your argument is an attack on the very same system your country used to become a “First world nation”.

c) Isn’t it hypocritical to claim the BRI is of no value to the common man while the entire West is based on projects like the BRI?

The Belt and Road Initiative is a nonsensical and uneconomical stupidity.

It undermines the very economic foundations of western civilization.

Your statement is an inversion and perversion of the truth. It is false on multiple levels.

a) You have not defined what Western Civilisation is. It is a myth, unless you define it. So please tell us what you are talking about here.

b) For me, modern “modern western civilisation” is Capitalism. That is all. The BRI is based on Capitalist principles in the most pure sense. Therefore the BRI is the epitome of a system based on Western Civilisation (Capitalism).

c) You provide no data showing the BRI is an uneconomical activity. All you’ve done is made an emotional statement based on no hard, demonstrable truth.

d) Your claim that it is “nonsensical” is false. The BRI makes complete sense as I’ve shown earlier why the BRI is needed to prevent a blockade via the Mallacca straits.

It will implode in the next financial crisis which is about to hit us all like a global tsunami.

This statement is contradicted by reality. Here is a list of financial crises that have affected countries taking part in the BRI during the time that it was in it’s infancy:

Ukrainian crisis (2013-2014)

2014 Russian financial crisis

2014-2017 Brazilian economic crisis

2015 Chinese stock market crash

Turkish currency and debt crisis, 2018

2020s

COVID-19 recession

Economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic (2020-now)

2020 stock market crash (2020-)

Black Monday (March 9)

Black Thursday (March 12)

Lebanese liquidity crisis

Despite these economic crises, which in capitalism happens every 4-7 years, the BRI has continued.

Despite these economic crises, which in capitalism happens every 4-7 years, the BRI has continued.
In fact, the BRI may be a lifeline to countries in financial crisis because it is a stimulus.

Why should the Chinese continue to produce and ship real and valuable goods and services to Europe
and America in return for intrinsically worthless electrons in a central bank’s computers called dollars and euros?
How stupid is that?

This is a stupid statement. Here’s why:

a) China converts all the “intrinsically worthless electrons in a central bank’s computers” into material assets like gold, industrial materials (e.g coal from australia) and in funding real projects like the 3-gorges dam, the so called ‘ghost cities’ (which are now being filled with Chinese citizens) and into material goods including defense spending.
b) Those so called “intrinsically worthless electrons in a central bank’s computers” fund Chinas technological development. That is how they can land a robot on th other side of the moon, be the number one launcher of space rockets in the world, be the largest recipient of patents in the world, have the largest number of STEM graduates (universities funded by worthless electrons)

So in fact, the Chinese are *much smarter* than you think, certainly much smarter than you.
If you are ignorant of the BRIs objectives, just bear in mind this little paragraph:

BRI was first mentioned by President Xi Jinping in September 2013 as he announced the Silk Road Economic Belt, which focussed on enhancing overland links. … BRI was not conceived as an aid programme – the Chinese government aims to reap political, economic, and financial benefits from its investments.

Arch Bungle

Your post contains so many issues it’s hard to know where to begin fixing it. But let me give it a shot:

1. Those Turkic central Asian republics are populated by people who were the very reason the Wall of China was built.

I wouldn’t call them “friendly” towards China. One of them (I forget which one) already has US military bases on its territory, doesn’t it?

Do you realise you are more than a thousand years behind the times and that that the Chinese have not been building a wall to keep barbarians out for centuries?

Do you realise that China has *GOOD* diplomatic real relations with all the countries on the BRI?

Contrary to what you state, they are in fact VERY FRIENDLY towards China (Research backs this).

(Incidently, only a buffoon like Trump still thinks a Wall can keep invaders out in this era – even the Chinese gave up on wall building centuries ago)

Regarding your statement of the US military base in Central Asia, I remember very well the situation around that. It was closed right after the Americans were booted out of uzbekistan (neither Putin nor Xi tolerated them there:

The Transit Center at Manas was especially important for U.S. and International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) efforts in Afghanistan,
as it was the first and last stop for soldiers entering Central Asia en route to fight in Afghanistan. Additionally, it was home to a
logistics and refueling operation run by the United States Air Force for the war in Afghanistan.
The base at Manas was set up in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks with Russia’s consent and has transported 5.3 million military servicemen from 26 countries in and out the Afghanistan conflict theatre.
It became especially important as a transportation hub after 2005, when the United States was evicted from its other base in the region, in Uzbekistan.

https://thediplomat.com/2014/06/the-united-states-just-closed-its-last-base-in-central-asia/

Your next statement is not really relevant to the discussion, but I’ll comment anyway:

2. In the medium- to long-run, trade is beneficial only to big international corporations and the governments they own and control. Its ultimate “benefit” to the average European or American citizen is lower wages, job insecurity and unemployment. It is not to the advantage of the average German that Volkswagen builds cars in China and exports them to Germany, hiring Chinese workers and firing German workers in the process. Same with Apple and American workers. The only people that benefit are the shareholders of these mega corporations.

International trade is deleterious to the ultimate wellbeing of the average folk inhabiting both the West and the East, lowering wages and standards of life everywhere, in the end.

If your life depends on making and selling something to a foreigner who competes with you for everything, that’s a losing proposition.

This big lie (free trade for big business is good for the little people whose rights and laws are rescinded in the process) which only profits the billionaires will not last more than another decade or so.

So many problems with your statement, let me point out a few:

a) You are making an argument against Capitalism and in favour of Communism. It doesn’t really have anything to do with the BRI. So you should be aware that the entire system of Capitalism used by the UK, USA and EU is based on this model … China is not special here, it is simply participating in the same Capitalist system used to build the modern world.

b) So your argument says nothing about the strategic value of the BRI to China, which goes beyond Capitalism vs. Communism. In fact, your argument is an attack on the very same system your country used to become a “First world nation”.

c) Isn’t it hypocritical to claim the BRI is of no value to the common man while the entire West is based on projects like the BRI?

d) It is also false that free trade does not help the little man. Due to Free Trade (via Capitalism), the average man now has a better quality of life than ever before in the history of mankind. Projects like the BRI bring jobs to people who have no jobs to begin with.
e) Similarly, China’s massive African infrastructure projects based on Free Trade has created jobs for millions of Africans – where otherwise there would be no jobs to begin with! So your statement is false.

The Belt and Road Initiative is a nonsensical and uneconomical stupidity.

It undermines the very economic foundations of western civilization.

Your statement is an inversion and perversion of the truth. It is false on multiple levels.

a) You have not defined what Western Civilisation is. It is a myth, unless you define it. So please tell us what you are talking about here.

b) For me, modern “modern western civilisation” is Capitalism. That is all. The BRI is based on Capitalist principles in the most pure sense. Therefore the BRI is the epitome of a system based on Western Civilisation (Capitalism).

c) You provide no data showing the BRI is an uneconomical activity. All you’ve done is made an emotional statement based on no hard, demonstrable truth.

d) Your claim that it is “nonsensical” is false. The BRI makes complete sense as I’ve shown earlier why the BRI is needed to prevent a blockade via the Mallacca straits.

It will implode in the next financial crisis which is about to hit us all like a global tsunami.

This statement is contradicted by reality. Here is a list of financial crises that have affected countries taking part in the BRI during the time that it was in it’s infancy:

Ukrainian crisis (2013-2014)

2014 Russian financial crisis

2014-2017 Brazilian economic crisis

2015 Chinese stock market crash

Turkish currency and debt crisis, 2018

2020s

COVID-19 recession

Economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic (2020-now)

2020 stock market crash (2020-)

Black Monday (March 9)

Black Thursday (March 12)

Lebanese liquidity crisis

Despite these economic crises, which in capitalism happens every 4-7 years, the BRI has continued.

In fact, the BRI may be a lifeline to countries in financial crisis because it is a stimulus.

Why should the Chinese continue to produce and ship real and valuable goods and services to Europe
and America in return for intrinsically worthless electrons in a central bank’s computers called dollars and euros?
How stupid is that?

This is a stupid statement. Here’s why:

a) China converts all the “intrinsically worthless electrons in a central bank’s computers” into material assets like gold, industrial materials (e.g coal from australia) and in funding real projects like the 3-gorges dam, the so called ‘ghost cities’ (which are now being filled with Chinese citizens) and into material goods including defense spending.

b) Those so called “intrinsically worthless electrons in a central bank’s computers” fund Chinas technological development. That is how they can land a robot on the other side of the moon, be the number one launcher of space rockets in the world, be the largest recipient of patents in the world, have the largest number of STEM graduates (universities funded by worthless electrons)

So in fact, the Chinese are *much smarter* than you think, certainly much smarter than you.

If you are ignorant of the BRIs objectives, just bear in mind this little paragraph:

BRI was first mentioned by President Xi Jinping in September 2013 as he announced the Silk Road Economic Belt, which focussed on enhancing overland links. … BRI was not conceived as an aid programme – the Chinese government aims to reap political, economic, and financial benefits from its investments.

Ronald

Shipping may be the cheapest, but can be blocked by outside powers.
Interior roads and rail lines are much easier to defend and repair if cut.

Diana Cornwell

That would be an act of war? Besides, hitting one ship wouldn’t take out the thousands of others, while one bomb on a railroad would derail the whole thing and stop it cold on its tracks. In other words, all ships cannot be stopped with one bomb but all trains can be immobilized with one bomb. Plus, Turkey is NATO and the Silk Road is going through them? What if Turks change their minds and refuse passage? It takes only one border closing to render the whole affair moot. There are other Turkic States in Central Asia who have friendly relations with the US, if I recall correctly.

Ronald

“Hitting one ship wouldn’t take out the thousands of others”, tell that to the Houthi who are starving because of the Saudi/US naval blockade.

This is basic military and commercial strategy.
Add to that Europe and Asia in the past were considered “worlds apart”, or at least separate continents, were as we know today they are in fact One.
Turkey would be side-stepped in 24hrs if they were to behave that foolish.

Diana Cornwell

I don’t understand?
Are you equating China with the Houthis?
Without Chinese imports, the American economy would come to a grinding halt.
That would amount to suicide on the part of the Americans, not blockade.

Arch Bungle

That would be an act of war? Besides, hitting one ship wouldn’t take out the thousands of others,

Concurrent targeting by guided missile is a well understood technology.

It’s possible to attack multiple ships concurrently.

Diana Cornwell

Anything is possible.
In my opinion, maritime shipping is cheaper and safer for a world power like China whose products the West needs on market shelves and NOT at the bottom of the ocean.

Arch Bungle

I’ve just realised that your reasoning about the BRI economics vs. Sea Shipping is even more defective than I thought.

Here is why:

a) You don’t seem to realise that the BRI is overland routes PLUS sea routes! How could you have missed that?

b) You don’t seem to realise that the rail-based overland routes of the BRI have benefits over the Sea Shipping routes, like:

b.1) With a transit time of approximately 16 days, rail freight is much faster than ocean freight which takes up to 45 days to reach the French port of Le Havre from China. It is more expensive than sea freight BUT for products that need to be delivered quickly, the cost is worth it and the profit margins higher.

b.2) Since these are time-critical products, they will not go via Sea route anyway – they will go via Air Freight – AND AIR FREIGHT IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN RAIL.

Therefore China delivers cheaper than Air Freight and faster than Sea freight by using Rail to Europe – a perfect compromise.

So this means China can deliver time-critical products to Europe in 16 days what used to take 45 days. THAT is why China is the preferred manufacturer and product source for the entire world. Speed and efficiency – options.

(reference: https://container-xchange.com/blog/belt-and-road-initiative/)

Diana Cornwell

I appreciate your opinion and yes, you are right again. For me, the only new significance of the Belt thing are the new overland routes. The maritime lines exist already; what do they have to do with new railways?
Anyway,
As I explained previously, the Belt Initiative is a waste of time, money and emotion. In a couple of years’ time, people everywhere will be liable to hit you on the head with something hard and heavy if you were to bring it up.
We are at the cusp of a economic and political change where people are starting to see that so-called Free Trade is just code for international slavery and misery.
Mark my words.
China will stop selling stuff to the West in a few years and the Belt and Road Initiative (what an inaccurate and stupid name which means nothing) is dead on arrival.
It only serves the interests of the 0.01 percent and it’s not going to function when the 99.99 are suffering from the results of their neo-mercantilistic policies.

You Muslims are funny that way: you hope to make gains from the projects of people you consider your enemies (the big western corporations who are China’s partners).
Iran and Turkey are “dead men walking”.

IMHO

“IRAN AND ISRAEL ARE GEARING UP FOR A WAR”

LOL! I have been hearing this sort of claim for decades now. I don’t see anything different now.

Hasbara Hunter

https://youtu.be/i62MDG81mlI

Those are Muricans during an Iranian Attack….I bet Israelis will cry for their mommies too…

https://youtu.be/4RBMu4zcqvQ?list=PLxCWZDxGmVWefTxrAF448EOV_UhoXfrBh

Hell yeah they do….

Neurasth

Most beautiful video on the internet (idf getting blown up). Made me want to scream ALLAH AKBAR

Icarus Tanović

Yeah, go ahead. But not like Wahhabis does, when kills some child.

JIMI JAMES

Usa!

Emad Irani

they can’t even fight some militias

Arch Bungle

Where’d they get this footage?

Hasbara Hunter

I got it from me brothers….

Arch Bungle

Nice. More please.

Arch Bungle

I don’t understand how people who join the army knowing they could be killed still pray for their lives on the battle field.

It don’t make no sense.

Either go o war and accept death, or live and avoid the battlefield.

Joe Bloggs

OR, the US government threatening countries if their soldiers get killed – Thats what soldiers are for , no? to get killed. LoL

Frank

US Navy Sex Trafficking in Bahrain

In the summer of 2017, a grave crisis was already boiling in
the US Navy’s Fifth Fleet, stationed in one of the Persian Gulf
countries, namely Bahrain. That summer, investigators began to uncover
an intricate web of allegations against American sailors that began with
prostitution but ended up in cases on international sex trafficking.

What the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) uncovered, had three themes in common: US sailors, hookers and money.

StopIsraeliGenocideInPalestine

It is always a pleasure to see US negro army soldier stationed in Ramstein Germany to fight for diseased street whores. Very easy to wack those guys.

JIMI JAMES

fkn lol!

Icarus Tanović

Say your prayer little one,
Don’t forget my son
To include everyone

JIMI JAMES

I’m rather dissapointed, after all brave hollywood war movies in nearly believed in:

Dick Von Dast'Ard

Ex Intel Boss: It Is Impossible For USA To Defeat Iran!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-yG_sOdbYY&t=19s

Occams

“War is not meant to be won. It is meant to be continuous” ~ Orwell

‘Winning’ doesn’t factor into Amerika’s wars. WARS factor into Amerika’s economy

Dick Von Dast'Ard

It’s those wars that have made that economy incapable of paying it’s way with deficits that are now so astronomical and money printing that has gone into a parallel universe.

Occams

And yet 95+% of Amerikans still have absolutely no clue what’s coming.

Fingal Carson

I seriously think most people actually think this “flu”/”cold” actually has an end. Yeah, it does have an end. When half the world is dead or when the world actually ends itself. That’s when it ends…

Occams

As a friend said, you must give credit to your enemies. This is brilliant, because ANYTHING – and that’s what’s happening – now becomes ‘Covid’; cold. Flu. Pneumonia. Stubbed toe. Heart attack. Fire. Auto accident…….everything thing is like the positive ‘cases’ and ALL becomes ‘related’ because most – especially Amerikans – are simply so stupid and misled that they cannot stop for even a few minutes and say ‘wait a sec….this doesn’t make sense’.

So THIS winter’s flu/colds, etc., becomes covid – or a ‘new strain’, and next, and next….

Unless, of course, Gates and Fauci make good on their ‘wait for the next one’ release.

Some asked the other day – again – why I never wear a mask?

I said if you see me in one it’s time to worry

Billy Jack Galt

“I said if you see me in one it’s time to worry”

…..and it won’t be a freaking piece of paper or a gaiter!

Occams

lol…the very minimum will be my double respirator I use when glassing a surfboard or in a paint booth.

JIMI JAMES

nailed it!

verner

russia is the only party that easily can end the dysfunctional criminal statehood called israel and can do so with no physical hardship to itself – 100 or 200 or 300 or 400 missiles in swarms from the Caspian Sea would more or less eviscerate the jews and allow hezbollah, syria and iraq and turkey to follow up with the necessary cleaning operation and return palestine to the palestinians. even a slow-witted putin is bound to come to this conclusion and set things in motion with the aforesaid legitimate countries (which means that the jews in palestine are in every respect illegitimate).

Diana Cornwell

By God what a liar and a fool you are. Putin is an ally of Israel. He’s going to destroy those who’d seriously endanger the wellbeing of the Jewish State.
What is this place?
Psychopathic Russian and Iranian trolls gone wild?

verner

as said before, just feck of.

Arch Bungle

Tell that to that dumbass HiaNd – he worships Putin like a God on a daily basis.

Bob

Good. Use the same weapon you used on the US drone on Israel.

JIMI JAMES

Not gonna get their fkn war,whilst the other is present,Israel needs to chill out too!

Arch Bungle

This is a good thing. Those who do not belong in Iran will flee to where they should be.

Those who are willing to fight for Iran are the only ones who should remain.

A country is created by those who are willing to fight for it.

Let the rats flee the ship until there are no rats left …

Free man

It’s brain drain.
The percentage of the zealous Islamist zombies in the population is rising and rising.

Arch Bungle

The opposite is true.

The smartest and best have remained. That is how Iran managed to build a space program, master the nuclear fuel cycle, work on producing their own vaccines and produce thousands of scientific advances and patents.

All these people could have run away decades ago under US and zionist pressure but they stayed and built a world power.

Those who ran away will now have to hope they can succeed in a hostile world in a country that sees them as refugees.

Unless you think a refugee life is peachy? You know the Turks ship refugees off to Greece right?

Free man

I am the son of the “refugees” you describe.
You probably don’t know exiled Iranians.
If we wanted to return to Iran we could buy half of the city our parents left.

Arch Bungle

I know a lot of exiled Iranians who ran away because they lost their privileges under the Shah.

The Shah being the biggest, most useless Iranian refugee as well. I hope he enjoyed the loot he took with him to his American masters when the Mullahs booted him out.

If you could, why don’t you?

Free man

Because Iran is a bad place to invest in.
For exactly the same reasons that so many people run away from it.

Arch Bungle

For some, maybe, but there are always some who can thrive where they are and others who must always run away to make an easier buck.

There are thousands of International companies investing and making profits in Iran, and creating a livelyhood for the people there … so your statement that it is a bad place to invest in is false.

It may be for some who are not smart enough to make a profit there.

In the bigger scheme of things:

Everywhere is a bad place to invest in. Everyone is running everywhere looking for the best deal.

Example: People are running away from Europe to Thailand because their retirement funds can’t sustain them in Europe.

Personal Capitalism is a never ending game and does not begin and end with Iran.

I worked with several companies who are investing and making profits in Iran, Afghanistan because they know how to profit there.

Brett Connor

Can’t wait. Watch the Israelis get their ass’s handed to them again.

Just Me

Israel struts on US backing and simply does not have the strategic mass for the type of asymmetrical war Iran is planning on. The Zionists are running really scared and killing civilians in Syria in panic. Iran will hit them but keeping the cowards guessing and mobilized is part of Iranian psy-ops.

Brett Connor

I’d rather nothing happen like this but evil seems to prevail everytime. In the end everyone looses except the Jewish Bankers funding both sides.

Hasbara Hunter

The Khazarian Mafia could always fool them Sheeple…with Lies, Deception, Treason, False Flags, Smokescreens…etcetera…etcetera… History always has repeated itself for Centuries…same Babylonian trick…over and over again…those days are GONE…a Shitload of information freely available…The Veil came down….and a Devilworshipping pathetic little Zio-Dwarf is standin’ there Buttnaked….D*mn what an ugly sight it is….

Icarus Tanović

What Babylonian trick, or Babylon symbolizes anyways?

Hasbara Hunter

Yeah Babylon symbolizes anyways… Babylonian Magick (Money) Tricks the source of All Evil….Them Parasites hide under many aliases & identities…masters in Deceiving & Deception…..

StopIsraeliGenocideInPalestine

The Jewish scum bankers don’t fund Iran!!!

Brett Connor

OH yes they do. And I bet you didn’t know Muammar Gaddafi’s mother was Jewish either. The Jews through out history have interbred with almost the entire planet. That’s why the ruling class of northern Africa do not look like the the sheep they rule over. This has been going on since Egyptian times. Egypt “NO” it’s “Eg ypt or Egg Whipped” It’s a Freemason secret society thing. All those leaders throughout Northern Africa and the middle east are part Jewish or they’re married to one. Every Fucking one of them! The Elites don’t have wives as we understanding. All the women are Breeders from Elite Breeding blood lines. Look at the Pedo’s in Hollywood. They’ve had multiple kids with multiple breeders creating these bloodlines. They just haven’t told you yet. Well they have but you didn’t make the connection in history class. Sheep and Lemmings don’t think for themselves. They’re told “WHAT TO THINK”
And one more thing. The Jews run the Genocidal operations on the entire planet. It’s their job.

Joe Bloggs

I say bring it on Israel. I need to see the Polish Ghetto rats drown in the Med as Haifa and Tel Aviv are levelled and Thieving settler dogs are massacred like pigs to slaughter by the Pals and Shiite PMU’s LoL

Ashok Varma

Israel is in panic mode as it see its end, and all these theatrics and killing Syrian women and children are to stay relevant, as US priorities are shifting as its economy has crumbled and there is socio-economic collapse. US is divided now and Trump’s supporters blame the Jews for their misery, so despite Jews in many positions of power, they are despised and US military will not die for the Jews, as even Trump was overruled.

Just Me

According to reports Iran has moved Shahab 2 to the Iraqi border in case it needs to smack the Zionists.

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/295f9a4eda10b3ff6d989afe130f75cab55a30e1be1bb4bb66e24338d26b08e2.jpg

Icarus Tanović

They can hit them evwn from south.

Arch Bungle

Better hide that sucker and lay the decoy gravy on thick …

StopIsraeliGenocideInPalestine

Funny the Zionist fucktards won’t believe they are going to be wacked.

Evan Vokes

the only people that kill Syrian women and children are Moolim men
BTW, where are all your Syriac and Chaldean christians????
Emulating the non prophet is all we see from you thugs
Jesus in the bible is not the jesus you think he is when you repeat your inane recitations
He is coming to tread you like a wine press

Frank

Frankly, Iran would shut down the Zionists in a matter of hours in case of hostilities. Iran is one of the largest countries on the planet and 60% mountain and very rough terrain that is ideal for a long term defensive war as many invaders over several millennia have found much to their chagrin. Iran’s topography is very mountainous. The main mountain chain is theZagros Mountains along its western side with peaks over 3,000 meters (9,843 feet) above sea level. Mount Damavand, part of the Elburz Mountains in northern Iran, is the country’s highest peak and Asia’s highest volcano with an elevation above sea level of 5,609.2 meters(18,403 feet). The occupation of such a large and diverse nation is simply not possible, combined with fiery Persian nationalism any invader would be suicidal to take on Iran, as Saddam quite recently fatally found out.

The only reason Iran will not attack Zionist cities is due to large Arab Muslim and Christian populations in Occupied Palestine. However, Zionist infrastructure, airbases, dams, air ports, water supplies, Dimona and ports are fair game. Only if the Zionists in desperation cause massive civilian casualties in either Lebanon, Syria or Iraq, then Iran will literally raze them to the ground. However, the Axis of resistance will slowly and strategically start operations against the Zionists in the wider region now

Brett Connor

I’m afraid Mossad is going to sink a US ship as they have before and blame Iran.Or the other way around.

Wars are always started (based on lies). This ideology goes back to the stone age.

And the Zionist and Communist Jews have strangle hold on the US military as well as the country. Our entire election we just went through was nothing more than the Jewish left vs the Jewish right, and it’s been that way since 1776.

Just Me

The Jews did the same to Russia, one Marxist faction led by Lenin and the other “white Russian” imperialists backed by British Rothschild house of Windsor in a civil war lasting five years and killed millions of Russians. They have the same plans for the US.

The White armies created by Britain supported by Anglo-American Jewry (also known as the ‘White Guards’ or ‘Whites’) were counter-revolutionary groups that participated in the Russian Civil War. These White armies fought against the Bolshevik Red Army for control of Russia.

Brett Connor

For sure and if you trace history as far back as you can go. It’s all the same as you have stated.Behind every world crisis there are board rooms of Jewish Bankers. Most lemmings have no idea the Windsors ” Wittens of Sax Coberg Gotha” are German Jews. They changed the name when they went to England enos ago. Every President here in the US has been Jewish or of Jewish heritage. Half of Hitlers Military Brass were Jewish. Himmler “the death camp god” was Jewish. Most people don’t take the time to really research whats going on. Sheep don’t realize the gate swings both ways.

StopIsraeliGenocideInPalestine

Well after I found out that the Austrian Hitler had a Jewish mother and the real name was ‘Hiedeler’ I also noticed that British led Zion was responsible for WW I/II.

JIMI JAMES

born from incest too.

JIMI JAMES

First casuality being truth,never fails:

JIMI JAMES

Post French evilution:

klove and light

your conclusion is correct…only your drift is wrong…..

the satanic zionist do not want to occupy persia……

they want to destroy it.and sadly to write they will on a massive scale by using nuclear arms.

you…we…….cannot stop or eben slow down the inevitable.

That satanic zionism will get their way for starters.They got their capital already, jerusalem, the satanic temple is next….the one world government is next….worjking through total digital control mechanism for the world including digital currency…..digital vaccine pass(barcode on your palm and forehead..the sign of the beast) alll controlled via 5G quantum internet of things….

does that mean it will stay that way???

nope……… several nations will rise up against satan arihman…………

ps. right now…humans are tooo weak in every country to counter the satanic plan………some a in denial mode…..some are scared etc…. the wakeup call will be the digital vaccine pass on your palm and forehead…..only….it will to late then…espically for humans that get the sign of the beast…the sign of satan arihman……..it is the 666……check out at home ALL of your BOUGHT products…the barcode has 3 barcode lines that are longer than the others with only those havinh no number beneath….the first the middle the last 666

Joe Bloggs

They cannot destroy the Persian Empire. There is simply not enough time to accomplish that. Forget Iranian missiles, the Hezb has enough missiles to carpet bomb Tel Aviv and Haifa out of existence.

Joe Bloggs

PRECISELY why Israel has NEVER attacked Iran – and the US could not even manage a LIMITED strike – hence Nuttyyahoo and thug in the White House Pompeo killing Soleimani to provoke the Iranians to strike first. US oil corporates have been salivating over Iranian Oil n Gas for decades, but after 40 years, still not regime change – wassup wif dat USA? – US military balls the size of peanuts and Israel’s balls even smaller.

cretins

You don’t think Israel will use it nuclear arsenal?

Arch Bungle

No. Because that will seal their fate.

Instead they will do what they did in 2006: Ask the US to ask the UN for a ceasefire.

<>

You are full of BS Arch, no one asked for a ceasefire on our side. We had 30K soldiers waiting to join the war besides the 10K who entered, when the UN asked us to stop the offensive. How do I know? because unlike all of you, I was there and we were ready to keep fighting and reach Beirut despite all of the rockets. I just don’t like liars, you are one of them.

Helen4Yemen

America is what has kept the International Jew squatting
on Arab soil.

…………

Washington, October 9, 1973

Nixon: Dinitz (Zionist ambassador to the US) has to
keep the pro-Israel group off our back.

Nixon: Why do we have such lousy tanks? Let’s give them
some M–60 tanks. It would give them great assurance if we could
eventually give them laser bombs. Let’s go ahead on the
consumables. But the quid pro quo is to tell Golda to call off
the Jewish Community in this country. If it gets hairy, we may
need to do more.

Kissinger: But not today.

The President: The Israelis must not be allowed to lose. How
about sneaking in planes and tanks?

Kissinger: We can wait until Thursday. If the Israelis for the
first time were pushed back by Arabs . . .

The President: Let’s identify the tanks and planes on a
contingency basis—in Europe.

Kissinger: We want to stick by Israel now so they won’t turn on
you during the diplomatic phase.

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v25/d140

Washington, October 10, 1973

Nixon: There is a serious situation in the Middle East.
It has developed into something tougher than the
Israelis anticipated.

Kissinger: The Israelis were caught with their pants down
—unmobilized.

Nixon: The Israeli tank losses have been extremely heavy.
We won’t violate the confidence by giving you figures, but
they are far heavier than anticipated.

Kissinger: If the Arabs start to win, all the Arabs will jump in.
Israel has suffered the equivalent of 100,000 killed.

Nixon: We will not let Israel go down the tube.

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v25/d143

Joe Bloggs

Yep, thanks for the facts. The carefully cultivated myth of israeli military supremacy over the Arabs was always a fabrication. Now, its a tiny militia that holds the future of the Ziorat squatters in their hands

Joe Bloggs

IF you were really THERE, you woulda known that
1. The IDF got their asses handed to them in 2006 – by SEVERAL unbiased accounts.
2. 60 000 diaper clad cry babies were mobilised to war against 2000 – 2500 lightly armed Hezbs
3. the IDF could not penetrate the 5km into the Leb border.
4.Over 100 Merkavas were destroyed or incapacitated (Israel admits to only 50)
5. Olmert begged for a ceasefire from the UN and while that was going on, he was crying for Bunker Busters from the US so he could commit war crimes and flatten a few residential blocks in South Leb to try turning the populace against the Hezb. YOU were either not there, or hiding in some bush 10km behind the lines , wanker.

Joe Bloggs

“Ask the US”?? you mean BEG the UN

Brett Connor

They might, then Pakistan will take them out. There are always checks and balances in the World of Freemasons.

Evan Vokes

pretty sure that it was the followers of the non prophet that lost.
sad, when you lose, you still think you won. too bad no one send back the tens of thousands of body bags so it sinks in what losers you are.
tens of thousands of your soldiers dead from Israel, hundreds of thousand of non prophet soldiers dead from each others hands, sounds like Israel is the only one winning
this next round should be extremely interesting, looking forward to the complete destruction of the followers of the non prophet this time

Pave Way IV

Four decades of this animosity BS is too much. History lesson: Israel had good relations with the Shah up until the Arab-Israeli war. Cooled down after that, but still continued through the revolution. Israel saw value in Iran countering the regional threat from Saddam’s Baathist Iraq, and Israel bought discounted oil on the sly from the Shah – he made a fortune.

Iraq is no longer a threat (U.S. Freedomization­ Through Annihilation­­ and Impoverishment® program). Iran could just bite the bullet and officially say they don’t want to destroy Israel (so israel would stop whining about that) and guarantee to sell Israel all the oil it needs. For it’s part, Israel could recognize the olive branch and agree to the old nuclear arms inspections. And buy Iranian crude at market price after sanctions are lifted.

Trouble is, I can’t ever see Israel doing this. Psychopathic politicians can’t exist without ‘existential threats’ and Israel is never going to pay market price for crude. How about the U.S. taxpayers subsidizing a third of the price, Israel? It would be like you’re buying crude from acquaintance of your uncle at 33% discount. I’ve been getting ass-raped for decades subsidising your regime to the tune of billions, anyway. I think the Iranians would be too busy buying food and medicine and too happy to attack you. Besides, American troops will accept orders to die for Israel (or Saudi Arabia or the UAE), so not much threat there.

Helen4Yemen

I am an Arab and I am here to tell you we do not want them, we
do not want them if they call themselves Jews or Hindus or
Zulus. Palestine is Arab land that European Jewry seized by
force. We find their unwelcome presence very offensive and we
only wish for their good riddance.

Pave Way IV

I am American and I am here to tell you there are

Diana Cornwell

Thanks for being respectful and honest unlike those other boys, Helen.
What do you think the outcome will be?
Will Jews be ousted out of the region when they have nuclear arms and the support of the prosperous and powerful West? How can Arabs or Muslims hope to evict Jews from Israel when their OWN Muslim governments and dictators are cooperating with the Jewish State and the US?
Are you Muslims and Arabs going to rise up against your own governments and armies? Fight both Arab armies and Israel and NATO at once?
Wouldn’t you die by the hundreds of millions if you tried?

Arch Bungle

The outcome will be that occupied Palestine will be freed from white colonial occupation and returned to it’s native people.

The European colonialists masquerading as ‘hebrews’ will be given a choice:

Go back to Europe, or stay and integrate with the population.

The model for the this is the old Republic of South Africa.

There also, the apartheid Afrikaner government had nuclear weapons, fought wars against it’s African neighbours, had total control over the Blacks.

But in the end they knew the writing was on the wall:

When the masses move, it can all change in one day.

When the masses awaken, better hope they are not angry …

So they stepped down from power peacefully because they would lose a civil war.

It only takes one small group to evict the Jews from occupied Palestine: Hezbollah.

But there are many groups and when they decide to strike it will be like a dam wall breaking.

NATO, nuclear weapons, US forces … none of these will be able to help once occupied palestine is set on fire …

Remember: If Arabs die by the millions in a war between israel and Lebanon, for examples, only a few million israeli deaths are required to wipe the entire occupation out.

HiaNd

“If Arabs die by the millions”
Why Arabs?!
Arabs didn’t help Arab Palestine for decades!
Maybe it’s better, much better idea, if YOUR Persians “die by the millions”…
It is Shia Iran who pretends to be champion defender of Sunni Arab Palestine…so…

Arch Bungle

You on drugs, bitch? You’re not even making sense anymore … hell, you never actually did to begin with!

HiaNd

you have nothing to say As usual
Syria is ARAB SUNNI SECULAR Republic not Shia Persian Mullah protectorate !!!

Arch Bungle

It means nothing, you useless screamer.

Here, have a blocking, you’re worse than useless to everyone including me.

HiaNd

Syria is ARAB SUNNI SECULAR Republic not Shia Persian Mullah protectorate
Assad is not religious fanatic but SECULAR leader .

HiaNd

Syria is ARAB SUNNI SECULAR Republic not Shia Persian Mullah protectorate.
Assad is not religious fanatic but SECULAR ARAB leader.

Helen4Yemen

You are repeating nonsense like a broken record as if
repeating nonsense will make it coherent.

Helen4Yemen

Stop your nonsense about Sunni-Shia. During the 400
years of rule of the region by the Ottomans, there was
no Sunni-Shia fighting. Iran is the most steadfast
defender of the Palestinians. During the entire period when
the Shah ruled Iran, Saudi and Iran remained friends.
Our region became a region of conflict because a white
man entered it and occupied Palestine claiming to be
the Israelite.

HiaNd

OK, how are they “helping” Palestine if your situation is every day worse?!?
“steadfast defender” by lip service, or by something else?
Yeah “steadfast defender” comparing to rest of the Arabs who are doing nothing you mean?

Helen4Yemen

You need to stop your nonsense about Sunni – Shia.
I told you that there was no Sunni-Shia problem during
the entire 400 years period the Ottomans ruled the region.
We now have a white man who is in our region against our
wishes that we must get rid by any means necessary.

The alien Jew now in Palestine ranks 5th in military power
behind Egypt, Turkey, Iran and Saudi. Why does this white
man want to remain where he is detested by the entire
people of the region?

Diana Cornwell

Thank you as well. Good points. The Arabs and the Muslims seem divided amongst themselves though. When I see how they are butchering each other in Syria instead of uniting against their supposed real common enemy Israel, I can’t imagine when the Arabs/Muslims will ever be able to achieve the goal of terminating Israel.
Frankly, Jews/Khazars/colonisées look like a more civilized bunch to me. Palestine is likely to devolve into a backwards place subsequent to the eviction of the above mentioned.
Same thing for Africa.
Look what happened after blacks took over power. Internecine fighting and economic destruction and misery accompanied by hyperinflation.
I think black/brown people ought to invite white European doctors, engineers and administrators back for their own good, on a mutually beneficial partnership basis. The bankers and the psychopaths can stay away.

Arch Bungle

There’s a lot questionable in your response. This discussion could go on for volumes.

Instead, let me just point out one interesting thing that may change your perspective:

Look what happened after blacks took over power. Internecine fighting
and economic destruction and misery accompanied by hyperinflation.
I think black/brown people ought to invite white European doctors, engineers and administrators back for their own good,

You have been reading a whitewashed version of history taught to you by the same colonial masters who want you to believe Africa was a paradise under the white man.

It was not. It was hell on earth. Africa now much much better than under the white man’s rule.

If I could show you Africa under the white man in one picture, this was it:

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8d707a340da18ade52eb6f05bb5d39b4deed0a42676928f8bd7ffd7d9519e680.jpg

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e64163cf5b71d1ef6b6aed34965650eb7d46e6ea80b80e65c9c13df2061d63ff.jpg

Here is the white man’s ‘enlightenment’ bestowed upon Africa. I’d like you to read about people like King Leopold of Belgium, and what a wonderful saviour he was for Africa.

The Middle East is a mess because of the minefields the white man a) Left behind when he left b) Is Actively still laying under the very feet of the Arabs …

Ask your self why 52 US bases are scattered throughout the middle east?

Answer: To prop up all the regime’s the British and French left behind to rule the Arab peasants when they retreated after WW2.

Diana Cornwell

There is truth in what you say.
I will not repeat here my longer response to your other retort on the same subject.

Arch Bungle

Not only is there truth in what I said above but it exposes the falseness and lies in what you said.

Can you acknowledge that?

Arch Bungle

One last one, this is what the white man means for africa, and why him, his doctors, his scientists, his money and eveything else about him should get out and stay out of Africa:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zmkwtfcALkE/V-IYRt-8v2I/AAAAAAAALHY/UqHE4jHUmaENaeI2L7WFfF8ThESYsdFNQCLcB/s1600/cong_hands_1904.jpg

Father stares at the hand and foot of his five-year-old, severed as a punishment for failing to make the daily rubber quota, Belgian Congo, 1904

Can you imagine if this was your daughter’s hands you were looking at, after your white master had chopped it off as a price for your not working hard enough?

Diana Cornwell

That is horrible.
Do you want to talk about the black Houthis who committed genocide against the equally black Tutsis by hacking to death millions of them? Or the Moslem Arabs and black African chiefs who sold black Africans into slavery to serve in white American settlers’ plantations? Just the other day some black African Jihadis massacred a hundred or so black Africans who weren’t.
I don’t have much respect for blacks based on how they treat each other, their women, and us white Europeans.
They are unable to improve themselves by themselves. Without a firm hand to guide them, they devolve into cruel barbarity oh so easily.

Helen4Yemen

You mean the black Hutus? But to a deranged
white supremacism, what is the difference
between Houthis and Hutus, right?

Diana Cornwell

A simple mistake.
Houthis are dark brown Yemenis (Arabs?) and Hutus are African blacks who hacked and mutilated millions of Tutsi black African hands, feet and necks.
So I guess blacks killing blacks is fine with you. It’s only when whites kill blacks that it becomes a crime?

How about Boko Haram Jihadi black Muslims abducting and raping black girls? Is that a blessing as well?

Arch Bungle

Because of this blunder you made here in one of your earlier statements:

Do you want to talk about the black Houthis who committed genocide against the equally black Tutsis

Why are you creating a lie that the Houthi massacred the Tutsi?

They are not even on the same continent!

Arch Bungle

Indeed it is. Western “Values” on display for the world to see.

Do you want to talk about the black Houthis who committed genocide

against the equally black Tutsis by hacking to death millions of them?

Or the Moslem Arabs and black African chiefs who sold black Africans

into slavery to serve in white American settlers’ plantations? Just the

other day some black African Jihadis massacred a hundred or so black

Africans who weren’t.

I assume you mean Hutus (not Houthis – different continent).

How does this excuse anything the White Man did in Africa? It does not.

Does it make him morally superior? No.

Does it make it “a good thing” that he did what he did in Africa or does it make his evil less? No

So your argument is a logical fallacy – it changes nothing the White Man did in his efforts to turn Africa into his personal slave pit. It does not make him one bit less evil.

Further, your own false logic turns against you. If we use your logic, it would go like this:

You do realise that just a few decades ago the White Man was butchering his own kind in Europe and the rest of the world, right?

The. White Man is even better than Africans at butchering his own kind.

So your hypocrisy is quite obvious, here is a small recent sample that makes Europe look like darkest Africa:

• The Georgia-Russia conflict

• The Bosnian Conflict (Whites raping and butchering Whites with the help of whites)

• WW2 (Whites raping and butchering Whites with the help of whites)

• WW1 (Whites raping and butchering Whites with the help of whites)

• The hundred years war. (Whites raping and butchering Whites with the help of whites)

Here’s a small sample for you, Europe looks like the DRC Congo and Rwanda looked like recently:

• 1803 Irish Rebellion of 1803 – English Murdering Irish.

• 1803 Souliote War

• 1803–1815 Napoleonic Wars

• 1804–1813 First Serbian Uprising

• 1804–1813 Russo-Persian War

• 1806–1812 Russo-Turkish War

• 1808–1809 Finnish War

• 1809 Polish–Austrian War

• 1815–1817 Second Serbian Uprising

• 1817–1864 Russian conquest of the Caucasus

• 1821–1832 Greek War of Independence

• 1821 Wallachian uprising

• 1823 French invasion of Spain

• 1826–1828 Russo-Persian War

• 1827 War of the Malcontents

• 1828–1829 Russo-Turkish War

• 1828–1834 Liberal Wars

• 1830 July Revolution

• 1830 Ten Days’ Campaign (following the Belgian Revolution)

• 1830–1831 November Uprising

• 1831 Canut revolts

• 1831–1832 Bosnian Uprising

• 1831–1836 Tithe War

• 1832 War in the Vendée and Chouannerie of 1832

• 1832 June Rebellion

• 1833–1839 First Carlist War

• 1833–1839 Albanian Revolts of 1833–39

• 1843–1844 Albanian Revolt of 1843–44

• 1846 Galician slaughter

• 1846–1849 Second Carlist War

• 1847 Albanian Revolt of 1847

• 1847 Sonderbund War

• 1848–1849 Hungarian Revolution and War of Independence

• 1848–1851 First Schleswig War

• 1848–1849 First Italian War of Independence

• 1853–1856 Crimean War

• 1854 Epirus Revolt of 1854

• 1858 Mahtra War

• 1859 Second Italian War of Independence

• 1861–62 Montenegrin–Ottoman War (1861–62)

• 1863–1864 January Uprising

• 1864 Second Schleswig War

• 1866 Austro-Prussian War

• 1866–1869 Cretan Revolt

• 1866 Third Italian War of Independence

• 1867 Fenian Rising

• 1870–1871 Franco-Prussian War

• 1872–1876 Third Carlist War

• 1873–1874 Cantonal Revolution

• 1875–77 Herzegovina Uprising

• 1876–78 Serbian–Ottoman War

• 1876–78 Montenegrin–Ottoman War

• 1877–1878 Russo-Turkish War

• 1878 Epirus Revolt of 1878

• 1885 Serbo-Bulgarian War

• 1897 Greco-Turkish War

… and on it goes.

Now onto your next hypocritical statement:

I don’t have much respect for blacks based on how they treat each other, their women, and us white Europeans.

I don’t have much respect for whites based on how they treat non-white peoples.

Their tendency to be great thieves of land, great murderers of native people. Their attempts to colonise China and turn it into a nation of opium addicts. Their racism and hypocrisy.

Regarding treatment of women, the White Man is a great participant and creator of the commercial Pornography Industry, paedophilia and human trafficking in first world nations.

The ‘Leader of the Free World’ American was built on Black Slave labour, genocide and land theft.

So I have no respect for White ‘civilisation’, based on historical facts.

They are unable to improve themselves by themselves.

Without a firm hand to guide them, they devolve into cruel barbarity oh so easily

I would say:

The White Man is unable to cure himself of his tendency to thieve the land and blood of the black, brown and yellow man. He is addicted to murder both of his own kind and of others, as evidenced by his daily bombings of Afghanistan, iraq, Syria and earlier massacres in Asia and Africa. He has not stopped his colonial ways but is still pursuing them.

Without a firm hand to guide Whites they continue in their cruel barbarity oh so easily.

Diana Cornwell

I addressed this issue at length elsewhere.
1) Yes! You are right that the white race butchered its own kind by the tens of millions as recently as WWII, resulting in the quasi-extermination of white manhood. So much so that our Zionist leaders had an excuse to import millions of colored Muslims who hate us as ‘much needed labor’. This was a calamity that befell Europe (with the African and Turkish invasion) and England (with the influx of Pakis and Hindus and Africans).

2) I acknowledge that there were white psychopaths that inflicted great misery on the peoples of this world. Our bankers and Elites still consist of fairly diseased hearts and minds.
But our engineers, doctors and teachers are an altogether different category of valuable souls which you Muslims and colored peoples lack supremely. You have nothing comparable amongst your own kind because you imprison or KILL the few good men and women whenever they manifest themselves amongst you.
You Muslims only know killing and stealing; you cannot *build*.

Arch Bungle

While we’re on the topic of the hutu and tutsi conflict, I should tell you that the White Man had his hand in engineering the Rwandan Genocide, in the same way he had his hand in engineering many of Africa’s conflicts:

As usual, it was the White Man’s addiction to Racism that planted the seed and laid the foundations for the Rwandan genocide to occur:

“Hutus first settled in the Great Lakes region of Central Africa between five hundred and one thousand BC. Generally speaking, Hutus were an agricultural people who lived in large family groups.

The Tutsis, also known as Watutsis, were a nomadic people who began arriving in the Great Lakes region from Ethiopia some four hundred years ago. Eventually, the Tutsis settled amongst the Hutus – adopting their language, beliefs and customs.

But economic differences between the groups soon began to form. The Tutsis as cattle-herders were often in a position of economic dominance to the soil-tilling Hutus. That is not to say that all Tutsis were wealthy and all Hutus were poor, but in many areas, like Rwanda, the minority Tutsis ruled the Hutus.

According to some historians, like Congolese Professor George Izangola, the only difference between the two groups were economic, rather than ethnic. In a 1996 interview with Charlayne Hunter Gault, Professor Izangola explained:

“In Rwanda, the Tutsi and the Hutu are the same people. They are all people–large grouping or communities which go from seven regions of Cameroon to Uganda–all the way to South Africa, in the same culture,” Izangola said. “People used to be Tutsi or Hutu, depending on the proximity to the king. If you were close to the king, you owned wealth, you owned a lot of cattle, you are a Tutsi. If you are far away from the king, you are a cultivator, you don’t own much cattle, you are a Hutu.”

Colonial rule, which began in the late 19th Century, did little to bring the groups together.

The Belgians, who ruled what would later become Rwanda and Burundi, forced Hutus and Tutsis to carry ethnic identity cards.

The colonial administrators further exacerbated divisions by only allowed Tutsis to attain higher education and hold positions of power..”

This is why Whites should never be allowed to govern Africa, Asia or anywhere else but their own native territories.

Diana Cornwell

My friend,
You don’t make sense.
You’re implying that European Whites made the Hutus butcher the Tutsis.
We all know that this is wrong.
The Hutus genocided the Tutsis of their own free will. That’s a fact.
Understand this, Iranian.
If I tell you to jump off a tall building and you do so, it’s you that jumped — not I.
I am not denying the influence and responsibility of psychopathic Europeans and White people in world affairs at all. It’s an historic fact that nominally-Christian Germans who celebrate Christmas, also helped the Muslim Turks to organize and realize the Armenian genocide. That’s a fact. But it’s also a fact that the Turkish leadership at the time (and still today) consisted largely of Jewish Freemasons like Talat Pasha and Ataturk.
None of this excuses nor explains the patent technological, economic and civilizational inferiority of Muslims and colored peoples in comparison to the (albeit declining because suicidal) relatively affluent West.
It is YOU Muslims and blacks and browns who are flocking to Europe and America, not vice versa.
Yet you have the gall to tell us we’re bad.
If so, why do you come here?
Stay in your own country instead of invading Europe to rape our women and kill our children while begging us for free food, money and shelter.
Muslims and colored peoples are torturing and killing their own kind and YOU are accusing us Whites of the crimes YOU commit against each other?
You cannot be dealt with rationally.

Helen4Yemen

You seem to be such an arrogant white supremacist.
During the 400 years of Ottoman rule, there was no
conflict among the Muslims. And please remember that
the Ashkenazi is the one planning the conflict such as
the Iraq war. Please remember that the Jews that you
think are more civilized than the Muslims were engaged
in rapes, massacres and expulsions of the natives.

Diana Cornwell

Just off the top of my head, didn’t the Muslim Egyptians attack the Ottomans and advanced all the way to the gates of Asia Minor not too long before WWI? (I’m writing this without checking first, so perhaps I may be wrong.) Didn’t Kanuni Yavuz Sultan Selim (not sure about the name) commit genocide against some non-Sunni Muslim population (Alawites, Kizilbash?) in Asia Minor? Turks don’t like Arabs and Arabs don’t like Turks, that much I know. Despite what Islamists like Erdogan might claim.
Jews certainly can be as ruthless and merciless as anyone else. The Irgun fighters committed acts of terrorism and killed hundreds of our British officers and soldiers. No-one will deny that Zionists hold great sway in American politics.
But you can’t deny that Islam exhorts Muslims to submit or kill non-Muslims in the name of Allah who is none other than powerful Muslim elders taken collectively.
As a white European, I surely wouldn’t want to be ruled by Muslims, knowing how you treat women. Even in supposedly secularist Turkey, the Moslem Turkish men are mutilating and killing women for not submitting to their will.

Helen4Yemen

You are coming across as a very deranged white supremacist.

Deuteronomy 13:6-10

Someone else may say to you, “Let’s worship other gods.” That person may be your best friend, your brother or sister, your son or daughter, or your own dear wife or husband. But you must not listen to people who say such things. Instead, you must stone them to death. You must be the first to throw the stones, then others from the community will finish the job. Don’t show any pity. The gods worshiped by other nations have never done anything for you or your ancestors. People who ask you to worship other gods are trying to get you to stop worshiping the Lord, who rescued you from slavery in Egypt. So put to death anyone who asks you to worship another god.

Diana Cornwell

I am not Jewish and I do not profess the Torah, the Old Testament or YOUR Quran: Qur’an 8:12 “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Koran.”

Helen4Yemen

1) The Ashkenazi raped Palestinian women, he massacred
the natives and expelled 90% of them. Being asked to
remain means he gets rewarded for his crimes. A large
number of the French wanted to remain in Algeria but
Algerians refused. Why must the alien Ashkenazi remain
on Arab land? We detest his presence and only his good
riddance will satisfy us.

In South Africa, 90% of the people did not get
expelled but the case of Palestine is that the white
Jew went from being 0% in Palestine to being the
majority. Only his good riddance will satisfy us.
As long as this deadly enemy remains, having to look
at his foreign face is enough to ignite hatred and
resentment.

Arch Bungle

1) Amen.

2) You have the right of resistance …

Helen4Yemen

The Arabs almost removed the alien Jews in 1973 but
the US rescued them. They had nuclear weapons then,
did they not?
……….

Washington, October 10, 1973

Nixon: There is a serious situation in the Middle East.
It has developed into something tougher than the
Israelis anticipated.

Kissinger: The Israelis were caught with their pants down
—unmobilized.

Nixon: The Israeli tank losses have been extremely heavy.
We won’t violate the confidence by giving you figures, but
they are far heavier than anticipated.

Kissinger: If the Arabs start to win, all the Arabs will jump in.
Israel has suffered the equivalent of 100,000 killed.

Nixon: We will not let Israel go down the tube.

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v25/d143

Diana Cornwell

The Americans did. But you don’t have a point.

Arch Bungle

Helen’s point seems pretty clear to me.

Diana Cornwell

Do you or Helen know what kind of weapons the Jewish State had in 1973? Do you guys know whether Israel would not have used them as a last result? Do you know if they had hundreds of nuclear tipped ballistic missiles at the time? Or just a few low-megaton hastily-put-together contraptions hanging precariously from a couple of Mirage IIIs?
It’s a totally different picture now. The Jewish State can easily devastate Iran with their present-day nuclear arsenal. They certainly could not in 1973.
Helen is disingenuously suggesting that 1973=2021 therefore the situation is the same.
That’s basically lying, which you Muslims in general and Iranians in particular are doing too much of, for your own good.
Today’s delivery systems (accurate unmanned delivery vehicles carrying devastating nuclear loads) assure the Israelis a nuclear capability and effectiveness which they did not possess in 1973.
Deny at your peril.
Iran will be the last domino to fall. And fall, it will.

Pave Way IV

“I am an Arab and I am here to tell you we do not want them”

We? What?? Do you speak for the 440 million inhabitants of the Arab world / west Asia ? Or the 300 million in ethno-linguistic Arabs countries? Or the 1.5 million ethnic Arabs? The 30 million Saudis? YOUR opinion is as valuable as anybodies Helen, but don’t suggest there is some universal view among ‘Arabs’ besides hollow hate for Israel. There are supposedly seven million Jews in Israel. If you’re speaking for 300 million Arabs, then you should be able to kick them out if their presence is so offensive. Saudi Arabia and the UAE are hardly all of the Arab world, but they couldn’t wait to suck up fast enough to Israel last year. I think the Palestinians got absolutely screwed, but I don’t EVER expect their 300 million ‘Arab brothers’ to do a damn thing except 1) complain, and 2) make excuses for the lost wars.

I used to think it was about money and ‘poor Arab states’ but the Arab world has 45 BILLIONAIRES vs. 20 or so in Israel. The rich Arabs threw the Palestinians under the bus over and over and over again.

“We find their unwelcome presence very offensive and we only wish for their good riddance.”

…unless you’re an al Saud or al Thani. I wish I had a flying car. You better find a genie because that is apparently the only way your wish that 7 million Israelis are going to just pack up and leave is going to be be granted.

tzatz

Israel has Gas reserves off its coast and sells to Egypt and Jordan … hello?

Israel intends to sell to Europe along with Cyprus and Greece … through a new pipeline deal … hello?

Ivan Freely

If Iran pulls this off then the Sino-Iranian security trade deal is dead.

Arch Bungle

Why do you say that?

HiaNd

Why do you up-vote yourself vith YOUR FALSE ACCOUNT “Cray Brand”
You Were using it to down vote my comments also, which is pathetic!

Do you have pathological problems huh Shia brat?!!

Arch Bungle

WTF are you talking about, fucktard?

HiaNd

Syria is ARAB SUNNI SECULAR Republic not Shia Persian Mullah protectorate !!!

Arch Bungle

Meaningless, you useless screamer. Iran is in Syria at State request.

Here, have a blocking, you’re worse than useless to everyone including me.

HiaNd

Syria is ARAB SUNNI SECULAR Republic not Shia Persian Mullah protectorate
Assad is not religious fanatic but SECULAR leader !!!

HiaNd

Assad is not SHIA religious fanatic but SECULAR ARAB leader.

Arch Bungle

There will be no *direct* war between Iran and ‘israel’.

‘israel’ has no capability to either:

a) invade and occupy or
b) destroy Iran’s military capability.
c) Carry out a neutralising nuclear strike in Iran (Iran’s geography minimises the impact of nuclear strikes)

There will be no legions of IDF landing on the shores of Iran in the Persian Gulf.
Any strikes on Tehran/Isfahan/Qom will be followed by Ain Al Assad multiplied by 1000 on Tel Aviv.

On the other hand, the IRGC has surrounded ‘israel’ on almost all sides with a network of assymmetric forces in: Syria. Iraq. Lebanon. Yemen.

The Jews are all bollocks.

Diana Cornwell

But would NATO and the US allow that to happen to their ally? Surely more NATO nukes would rain down on Iran if Iran attacked Israel? How can Iran win a war against nuclear Israel and NATO?
Worse for you Iranians: surely NATO would bomb Iran preemptively to preclude the destruction of Israel if they received intelligence that Iran is preparing to hit Israel? Iran doesn’t stand a chance it seems. The NATO-member Turks are ready and waiting in the wings to take over northern Iraq and northern Iran populated by millions of Turk Azeris.
Is death and destruction avoidable for Iran unless they get rid of their Mollahs?

Arch Bungle

To summarise:

– NATO cannot use nukes without triggering a global nuclear war.
– Nuclear attacks would result in fallout all over the middle east, and Caucasus region.
– Low-yield nuclear weapons would not have any effect in bringing Iran down, since Iran’s geography protects to a large degree from the impacts of nuclear strikes.
– nuclear attacks on Iran would not destroy it’s missile cities embedded in the mountains, which will be used to retaliate against EU countries and NATO allies in the Gulf (including israel)

– NATO cannot risk pre-emptive warfare without facing a massive Iranian retaliation
– NATO won’t step in to defend israel, it did not step in when Hezbollah fought israel in 2006.
– If NATO strikes Iran in retaliation for a strike on israel, it would be too late
– Under the Mullahs, Iran has made more technological progress than it ever has in it’s many thousand year history. It was the Mullahs who led Iran through the Iran Iraq war and onto their first space launches, technological advances, industrial development, scientific development. So the problem is not the mullahs, it is the lunatics in the White House and the Knesset.

HiaNd

NATO cannot use nukes without triggering a global nuclear war.
YES they CAN !! If Russia doesn’t protect you, China vill NOT MOVE FINGER to protect you!
Only Russia is true nuclear Super Power China is FAR BEHIND!!!

Arch Bungle

Shut up nut job, you sound like a bipolar patient off his meds. Get medical help quick!

You’re too stupid to understand that sentence, so make logic-less announcements like they mean something.

HiaNd

f*ck you Shia brat fucktard !

Arch Bungle

How about I block your idiot ass for being completely devoid of value? You want that?

Lemme know. You’re a waste of time for EVERYONE on this site.

HiaNd

eat sh*t you p i g !
hope that US will make one big ashtray out of Iran !
Russia doesn’t protect a$$holes !

HiaNd

Assad is not SHIA religious fanatic, but SECULAR ARAB leader.

John Wallace

What is the point of blocking someone on here if all it does is prevents YOU from seeing what comments he makes but everyone else can.

Arch Bungle

Simple: When someone’s statements no longer have any value you can pay more attention to the interesting comments.

Who cares what everyone else can see, you’re not reading for everyone else are you?

Helen4Yemen

WTF is your problem with the SHIA?

HiaNd

Shia ppl. on this forum have just declared war on Russia here…it seams that Syria is becoming too small for both countries and that their (Russia-Iran)”alliance is no more”.
So Shia supporters ‘re fed up with Russia, I am fed up with them…and it might be that Russia is running out of patience with Iran also…
So either things will be resolved ….or maybe not…

Helen4Yemen

I am an Arab and I do not care who is a Shia and who is
Sunni, I want you to f-ing stop your nonsense.

HiaNd

I don’t care what you want.
If that is only my imagination than you should not be worried…
Facts do not change because of preferences or because “you want” something.

Helen4Yemen

I will ask you again:

1) Why do you think there was no Shia-Sunni conflict during
the 400 years of Ottoman rule of the region?

2) Why do you think Saudi Arabia (Sunni) and Iran (Shia)
remained good friends during the decades the Shah ruled
Iran.

HiaNd

answer:
If Sunni – Shia relations are just great.
Than all that is just fruit of my imagination = so NOTHING TO BE WORRIED ABOUT !!!

Don’t Worry be happy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU

Helen4Yemen

You are evasive, I asked you why there was no Shia-Sunni
conflict during the 400 years of Ottoman rule?

I asked you why Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran remained
friends during the many decades rule of the Shah.

If you are evasive again, I will block you.

HiaNd

I have answered already.
Tough luck I have no other answer for you and cant be bothered with your preferences.

Yeh, do me a favor and block me instead of asking your S T U P I D questions, one idiot less to read.

Helen4Yemen

Logic would indicate that 400 years is a long time where
there was no conflict between Shia and Sunni during the
Ottoman rule but when the

John Wallace

what is blocking him going to achieve other than you alone can not see his comments.

HiaNd

She will stop me from telling her this:
“If Sunni – Shia relations are just great.
Than all that is just fruit of my imagination = so NOTHING TO BE WORRIED ABOUT !!!”

Diana Cornwell

Good points, thank you. Even though I disagree with your assessment of the mullahs (I think they are perverted creatures) you make a strong case for an insurmountable stalemate between the West and Iran.
However, a betrayal by Russia and Turkey could profoundly change the balance of power against the Iranians.
That’s what I see happening: Putin pretty much enabled Israel/NATO to encircle Iran from the north. That’s what Armenia’s crushing defeat engineered by Russia in collaboration with the Israeli/NATO/Turkish elements achieved.
I thought Iranians were smarter than that. Now they still think Russia is their “partner”. That’ll be the death of them.

Arch Bungle

Even though I disagree with your assessment of the mullahs (I think they are perverted creatures)

All leadership is essentially perverse.

All we can say is that the Mullahs are no *more* perverse than any western leadership.

But we can, with factual evidence, make the logical claim that the Mullahs are *less* perverse than the leaders of the Israel, USA, UK, France, Australia, Germany and their Gulf Allies Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Oman, Kuwait, Egypt.

^^^ The above claim can be supported by data over the past 40 years on the basis of human rights violations and involvement in wars throughout the world.

Another *logical* *fact based* claim we can make is that the Mullahs have provided more effective leadership for Iran than *any* leadership prior to them.
This is a statement based on an analysis of quality of life indicators from the pre-mongol Iranian empire (back to Alexander/Darius) and up to the Reza Pahlavi.

JIMI JAMES

HUGE shift in leadership,got rid of turdbull and the skank for good!
other countrys particularly uk,going back to logic irrespective the far worse are the cia/usas whom account for 90% problems,they are in iran too!

Diana Cornwell

Thanks again for the breadth of the information you cared to compile for us. I would agree that Iranians must feel they must be careful in their dealings with Russia. But in my opinion, unfortunately for them, they don’t seem to be. I understand the Iranians waited over a decade to receive the (obsolete) S-300s they had paid for long ago? Those things are liable to turn around and hit Iranian assets instead. How can these people expect to acquire weapons that work from their traditional enemies? I believe the Turks made the exact same mistake with the S-400s they bought from Putin. Not only those missiles will prove themselves useless in actual hostilities, they cost Turkey the acquisition of the F-35 and the monies they could have generated by producing parts for them. Tens of billions of US dollars in lost revenues as far as I can tell.

Helen4Yemen

So you are the smart one and all the Iranians are just
idiots, right?

Diana Cornwell

I was referring to the Mollahs when I said they are perverts.
But true, I don’t think Iranians are a smart people. Not only they adopted the religion of their Muslim Arab conquerors, they are insane enough to tell the Arabs how Islam ought to be.

Helen4Yemen
Diana Cornwell

We don’t have to address each other. That’s fine. But KKK? That’s a very contemporary *white European* mainstream political attitude. Whitey.

Arch Bungle

But you’re the one whose been expressing typical white racist attitudes. Why accuse Helen of that?

Diana Cornwell

You lack a sense of humor, my friend. I’ve observed it’s a common Muslim problem deriving from your insecurities and inferiority complex which precludes you from being open minded and relaxed enough to consider different contexts and points of view.

Helen4Yemen

Come back and debate after you learn who are
the Houthis and who are the Hutus, OK, KKK?

Diana Cornwell

Why do you bring up the Hutus and Tutsis here?

Arch Bungle

I think it was the fact that you got confused between Hutu and Houthi in one of your earlier posts.

Diana Cornwell

Yes, you’re right.

Arch Bungle

I was referring to the Mollahs when I said they are perverts.
But true, I don’t think Iranians are a smart people.

That is a spectacularly ignorant statement.

Do you realise that the foundations of western science were created and developed by Iranians, right?

Not only they adopted the religion of their Muslim Arab conquerors,

You sound like a person who has never received education beyond high school level.

Do you realise that Persia was converted to Islam by the sword?

they are insane enough to tell the Arabs how Islam ought to be.

You’re making the false assumption that YOU know enough about Islam to claim that they cannot.

By your statement it’s clear you know next to nothing about Islam, Arabs, Persians or History in general.

Arch Bungle

But in my opinion, unfortunately for them, they don’t seem to be.

But your opinion is contradicted by the facts.

How do you square your “opinion” with the actual reality-based data on the ground that shows pretty clearly that the Iranians don’t trust the Russians as far as they can throw them?

Particularly as there is more than 100 years of mistrust between Iranians and the Russian Empire.

Diana Cornwell

Pray tell what that data is? I am not aware of a single instance of Iranians complaining to, nor confronting the Russians about anything they’ve done or not done.

Helen4Yemen

” (I think they are perverted creatures)”

Your hate for the Iranians is based on your white supremacism
training, right, pervert?

Diana Cornwell

No, just on the fact that you perverted Iranians rape virgins before executing them.

Arch Bungle

Please provide evidence of this?

I’d like to inform you that Paedophilia is a long established tradition in White civilisation.

Recently there are even movements trying to Legalise Paedophilia (White people, of course).

So if you want to talk about perverts – look to your own kind for the worst of them:

” The Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) was a British pro-paedophile activist group, founded in October 1974 and officially disbanded in 1984.[2] The group campaigned for the abolition of the age of consent. It was described by the BBC in 2007 as “an international organisation of people who trade obscene material”.[3]

Although it had a few women paedophiles as members, the organisation’s membership was mainly young, professional-educated male paedophiles, including youth and care workers. Its membership in 1977 was around 250, mainly focused in London and the South East;[4] the same number for membership was also reported in 1981.[5]”

Diana Cornwell

Iranians rape virgins before executing them = perverts.

Ralph London

When have you ever criticised the satanic, mass-murdering usg?

Diana Cornwell

You have a point with your rhetorical question.

JIMI JAMES

Thats pretty darn close:

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Nice illusions, nothing to expect from a dumb SF commentator lol. Keep it up Arch, you’re only making a fool out of yourself :)

Potato Man

Iran never really think of Israel as anything…if a war break-out it would be Iran vs US.
Israel is just like KSA, UAE, Qatar…in no shape or form can Israel live few days if they start a war with Iran.
Zion State is small and image Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran attack them.
Zion, yankees, Wahhabi – can’t be saved. There would be NO big war in ME…the Zion and their dogs die if they start a war.

StopIsraeliGenocideInPalestine

Great the end of Zion is near.

cechas vodobenikov

no war here
Israel sends US missiles into Syrian dessert claims dinner finished and learns difference between desert and dessert

Jon

There won’t be a great ME war because the various parties would all suffer net negatives. The competing interests will advance their respective positions incrementally through proxies or through discreet interdictions not significant enough to elicit a total war response. Regime change agendas will continue along these lines. The recent reproachment between Israel and the Arabs will bear fruit for both. It is a good thing and advances the chances of peace.

Edward Huguenin

No, Iran is not going to haul off and attack Israel, either in Syria or Israel proper. It’s government in Tehran is many things, but stupid is not one of them.

What Israel is attempting to do is create a false flag, to be blamed on Iran, as the justification for attacking it, and bringing it the US in on its side, militarily.

And unfortunately, Netanyahu’s ventrilloquist dummy, here in the US, AKA President Trump, has just made it very painfully clear this morning, that the US’s withdrawal from the P5+1, and the sanctions which will ensue, are the US government’s prelude to a war against Iran.

Just because something isn’t the most ham-fistedly, pig-headedly stupid thing the US government could do, is no guarantee that it will not do it, and President Trump’s speech about the US withdrawing from the P5+1 deal, is no exception to this very dark reality. He is making claims about Iran’s actions and capacities which bear absolutely no basis in reality.

The IAEA, which is staffed by amazinglingly bright people, has looked at the suspected facility, and said that there is no “there” there. And if that is what the IAEA is telling the world, I would very much tend to believe them. What Netanyahu and Trump are doing is tantamount to calling members of the IAEA, in their inspections of Iran’s nuclear facilities, idiots and liers, and members of this organization is neither.

With a potential corruption indictment hanging over his head, Netanyahu is going to want to jump start this war as quickly as possible, which is most probably the reason President Trump made the decert announcement today, rather than wait until this coming Saturday, 12 May, which was the actual deadline.

Look for this war to generate the revival of the draft in this country, and this time, the US military will be coming after both our young women, as well as our young men. And here is how I see the forces lining up; China, Russia, and Iran on one side, with the US; NATO, Saudi Arabia, and Israel on the other. There is no way that this will be allowed to stay regional; my sense is, it will go global in a heartbeat.

tzatz

Put in a few zombies …. it’s a ‘B’ movie plot

Tommy Jensen

Crying wolf again.

Helen4Yemen
Zulubal Andre

on the latest houthi victories, if you were nato, which neighboring country of iran would you send to war against them…

Helen4Yemen

STUNNING speech by the Iranian delegate to the UN in
1979 the year the Iranians had a new government.

https://tinyurl.com/IRAN-UN-1979

tzatz

Speech?

The paper tiger can talk … lol