Among the British weapons the Ukrainian troops are learning to use on Salisbury Plain is the 105mm L119 light gun, a towed howitzer TIM MERRY/PA
The Ukrainians were trained on the Multiple Rocket Launcher System
Written by Dave DeCamp. Originally published on AntiWar
Hundreds of Ukrainian soldiers have received training inside Britain on how to use weapons provided by London, including the US-made M270 Multiple Rocket Launcher System (MLRS).
The MLRS that Britain is sending Ukraine is said to have a range of about 50 miles, although they could potentially be outfitted with longer-range munitions in the future. London hasn’t said publicly how many MLRS systems it’s giving Ukraine, but the BBC reported that it’s believed they’ll be sending three.
The training has been taking place in Salisbury, southern England for about 450 Ukrainian troops. According to Reuters, Ukrainian forces were seen firing 105mm light guns and the MLRS systems.
The US has sent Ukraine a similar system, known as the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS), and has been training Ukrainian forces in Germany and at other undisclosed locations in Europe. The HIMARS the US is sending also has a range of about 50 miles.
So far, the US has committed to giving eight HIMARS systems to Ukraine, and more could be included in the new $800 million weapons package President Biden announced will be detailed later in the week. Russia strongly cautioned the US and Britain against providing Ukraine with such weapons, but the warnings were ignored.
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trying for the west to win an artillery battle against russia is like trying to jump to the moon using a trampoline and generally iran is considered as an abnormally capable country in this field the amount of deployed artillery formations in iran is above any norms around the world and iran today takes lessons of russia the same with china which has abnormal numbers in this aspect so russia just basically turned artillery battles into extra long range extra heavy “sniper” contests its just absurd what is going on
Soviets are the innovators they had this shit in ww2,britain stood no chance without Russians,
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russia has shown that its thermobaric munitions are making small arms engagement impossible in fact you will be obliterated indeed before you even come close to seeing a russian because the ukrainians simply dont have the range and precision their top down weapons aka javeline were utter ineffective laughable and expensive nonstarters basically yes the west and russia both have no serious drone capabilities specially turkey got humiliated but in a sense this was a helpful lesson to understand why the west hot air capabilities their paper tiger existence is only threatening if they are allowed to be on the offense and that uninterrupted
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The real issue is that the Russian Federation is under direct military attack by over 60 NATO and other vassal states. There are also over 6,000 NATO, CIA, MI6, Mossad, DGSE and other Russophobic criminals directly involved in war against Russians and have been planning and even selecting targets and types of weaponry to be used. Britain even though a pathetic poverty stricken tiny island in the middle of nowhere and had the hypocrisy of Brexit, all of sudden has become the champion and patron of Europe. So far Russian response has been vacillation, weakness and lack of clarity. Russia needs to understand that it faces an existential threat and making pacifying gestures towards racists who who hate Russians and Slavs will only encourage more aggression.
NATO officers are directly planning a long campaign to destroy Russia as acknowledged by the Danish desk jockey puppet Jens Stoltenberg, that NATO has been priming this conflict since 2014 and will continue “until Russia is defeated”. The next phase is a major AFU/NATO offensive to retake liberated areas of Don Bas and then hit Crimea and South Russia. What is most baffling thing about this conflict is the complete failure of Russian strategic planning and intelligence. They invaded Ukraine with barely 140,000 combat troops with no reserves, logistics or even adequate air cover. Another glaring and fatal Russian error has been an unprepared military and very low air air campaign capability.
Most of the frontline Russian weaponry deployed in Ukraine so far is Soviet era relics against the most modern NATO forces. The Russian Airforce can barely fly 100 combat sorties at peak, NATO and US in particular flew 3,000 sorties a day against Iraq and hit all civilian and military targets, but mostly civilian infrastructure. Russia has no clue how to conduct a combined arms operation and keep tempo with running logistics and supplies. The Russians are using antiquated Soviet era ammo, especially missiles that are inaccurate and causing substantial collateral damage. It is also quite obvious and known to most knowledgeable western military analysts, that the Soviet Union was also very weak and a bluff. They did not even have enough ammunition to wage conventional war for a few months. The Russian military is no on the backfoot and will soon face a determined NATO counter-offensive. Thousands of AFU troops are not being trained in UK, Germany, Poland, Romania etc just for a country dance. They will attack the Don Bas, Crimea and Southern Russia before winter. The Russians are in a pickle and unless get their act together and launch punitive strikes on Kiev, Russian cities and even infrastructure will be hit soon.
The Russians have suffered about the same number of fatalities that that they endured in Afghanistan in a decade 1979-1988. The Soviets made the mistakes, even though facing only US, UK and Wahhabis and not entire NATO.
On the home-front, Putin made an enormous error not explaining the reasons of this conflict, which now poses an existential threat to Russia and without mass public support and conscription, NATO will soon bring the war to Russian soil and people, Boris Johnson has openly said so. Russian global propaganda outreach has been very weak, while EU and the west has totally blocked any Russian narrative.
I am sorry if my objective analysis upsets some Putin cheerleaders, but I believe he will go down as a disaster for Russian people. Putin despite over 2 decades in power made no effort to make alliances even with friendly nations, tried to appease the Zionists, humiliated Syria with thousands of Zionist airstrikes with impunity, did not offer Iran or any ally modern weapons and tried to lick the boots of NATO “colleagues” in a state of total ignorance of world realpolitik. Now the Russians are trapped in an existential strategic strait-jacket, they can’t afford to sue for peace as NATO now has smelled blood and intent on destroying Russia, and without mass mobilization and war footing are too weak to “win” in Ukraine. I believe the next three months will define the outcome of this war and it is not looking very positive for Russia or its future if the current state of ignorance and confusion reign in the Kremlin with a ill Putin making disastrous decisions against the world’s biggest military bloc NATO which has only one goal the DESTRUCTION OF RUSSIA AND CONTROL OVER IT IMMENSE RESOURCES AND THEN OPEN A LAND BORDER AGAINST CHINA, WHICH IS THE NEXT AND ULTIMATE TARGET. A Russian defeat by NATO will be greatest disaster for humanity since the Mongols overran Eurasia and bring in an era of turbo unchecked western imperialism and hubris.
Interesting analysis G2 man.
It’s probably a logical conclusion if the only source of information for it is the Globalist media.
Some may describe it as projection, an inverse description of the actual realities, but I am prepared to wait to see if the Ukrainian can show a bit more resistance and then start recovering some of the territory have given up, before beginning to encroach on Russian soil with the counter invasion you are predicting.
Do you foresee this happening within the next month, or is there a longer timescale?
You mention that Russia has only been up against the US, the UK and the Wahibbis so far, and not the entire NATO.
A bit harsh on the efforts that have been put up by the Ukrainian forces so far given the losses they have suffered, that you don’t recognise their contribution.
When you refer to the “entire NATO”, how large of an army do you consider it to have?
I know Stoltenberg spoke of a force of 300,000 during the week, but that seemed to be more aspirational than a present day reality.
I try to base my comments on facts, historical, personal experience and military context. The total number of NATO troops is not as relevant as the economic and strategic mass of forces, propaganda and political power ranged against Russia, which in relative terms is a small isolated state or a bigger version of Iran. The west and especially the British and French have a thousand year history of colonialism and imperialism. The Russians in contrast are naive babes in the woods and have had a basically backward insular feudal history with regular upheavals, the last ones being the Soviet Jew led revolution and then again the CIA and NATO led implosion of USSR, largely due to economic mismanagement, the proxy war in Afghanistan and total internal compromization of the Soviet system by western intelligence and propaganda services. As Viktor Suvorov and many Soviet KGB and GRU defectors have explained that most of the Soviet Polituburo post 1970 was on CIA payroll, including Gorbachev.
NATO and western imperialist strategy since East India Company is to destroy and occupy weaker states by proxy war. The British took over India by mere business enterprises (East India Company), exploiting internal ethnic, sectarian and political divisions aka tribalism. That is what even third rate racist imperialist like Belgium, France, Portugal and Dutch did in Africa, Asia and Latin America. It is exactly the same pattern being repeated in Ukraine, using proxy brainwashed and corrupt Slavs against Slavs, the mirror image of the fratricide in the Arab and Muslim world, where 6 million Khazars acting as western imperialist outpost have been killing and lording over 600 million Arabs who are hopelessly divided.
So to answer your question, NATO does not need that big an army to confront an isolated and weak Russia. However, the US and its NATO vassals did raise an army of 1 million to destroy Iraq in two phases 1991 and then final blow in 2003, mostly paid by looting Arab oil money. The Saudis and the Persian Gulf Wahhabi puppet regimes financed the destruction of Iraq, Syria, Yemen and Libya. The US and NATO are still stealing Syrian, Libyan and Iraqi oil and grain to their hearts delight. The war on Russia is being mostly financed by German and EU money, the British are the evil brains but not the bankers, who are the dumb Americans who print billions of dollars while their banana republic population implodes.
The cannon fodder in the war on Russia based on the time tested Anglo-Zionist formula will be the Poles, Baltic Slavs, Romanians and other expendable EU vassals. The number of 300,000 NATO “special response force” is quite arbitrary as the main cannon fodder is the 500,000 inept Turkish army that has been fighting a losing war for 60 years against 25 million Kurds. However, the Turks have historical animosity against Russians dating back to loss of land in Czarist era wars. Turkey is also taking advantage to advance neo-Ottoman policies in Syria, Iraq and Libya and mostly a quest for oil. There is a much wider dimension to the war in Ukraine. It is mostly geared at economic imperialism as global resources dwindle. Russia is big and rich and NATO perception is that it Putin is weak and corrupt and will fold.
On paper the Russian military is about 800,000 to 900,00, but generally very poor quality even though the individual soldier, if properly led and armed is world class. The senior Russian military leadership is a disaster and hence such high attrition. It was the opposite in Soviet era, where not a single general died in Afghanistan as the war was left to junior officers and NCO. The biggest Russian shortcoming is lack of intelligence and strategic planning capability. Putin was a mere major in KGB with only one minor posting in Dresden and totally unfamiliar with western imperialism, propaganda machine and inordinate capacity to wage proxy wars. The AFU is the new expendable “Mujahideen” of Soviet Afghan era. A corrupt clown Jew agent like Zelensky is a mere propaganda prop to incite the Orthodox Slavic fratricide. So I am afraid Russia is in for a very long war aimed at it destruction. However, even Ukraine is a side-show as the real NATO long term goal is to eliminate China as a threat, which is much bigger due to its mega manufacturing capacity.
NATO planners believe that by using Slavs and eastern European vassals like Poland and Romania along with Baltic States they can destroy Russia. This is a pretty low cost option to take over the world’s largest landmass rich with resources. Only time will tell if Russia smartens up, but so far the Slavic fratricide is going according to NATO plan and they will only escalate the assault on Russia, if there no response.
Ukraine conflict is the new Poltava and Borodino rolled into one and a modern version of Nazi NATO Barbarossa. So as I have said before the next three-four months will dictate the outcome. So far Russian military has proven at the same level as most third world states. The Russian political, diplomatic and global PR and propaganda capability has even proven worse. NATO, especially the devious Brits who are now totally running the war on Russia have smelled blood and will only increase the stakes. The next proxy bloodbath in a decade will be Han Chinese killing Han Chinese for NATO in Taiwan. It is really a very sad state of affairs as Anglo-Zionist evil is now paramount and steering a sleeping world into an Armageddon. The Russians and Ukrainians are the lambs for slaughter these days.
This is what nato and USA wants, yes. But why are you so sure they will get it? Do you think it’s a one way? Your picture about Russia and Putin is totally wrong. Western economy is getting weaker and weaker while it was getting stronger and stronger after ww2. You forget china too. More than the half of the world is against the west, and a lot stay neutral. It’s not 1970 or 90 anymore. This seems the timeframe YOU are still living in.
The devious British “think tanks” and foreign office is pushing the propaganda that the “West in in existential conflict with Russia” and it will only end when Russia is defeated.
Yes. End this war within a month. Mobilize the whole military. By the way, does anyone know where I can see videos of Uke nazies stomping on ethnic Russians, gypsies, and torturing? I have seen links to such videos here on SF. I downloaded the Telegram that is advertised on SF but found it to be messaging app, useless.
It’s not a my analysis. He is fake G2 Man.
Why?
Your objective analysis is 100% correct. USNATO are doing their best to destroy Russia. Russia needs to start striking back, hard. Take off the gloves and make it absolutely clear to those psychopaths that they will never destroy Russia and will never rule the world. Do whatever it takes. Take their war right back to them. Destroy the weapons that they are sending to kill Russians in the countries that are sending them which includes USA, England, Poland, Germany, and France. This is kill or be killed. Don’t be afraid of starting a nuclear war. Prepare for it. Explode a tactical nuclear weapon about two miles above the Pentagon and tell those idiots that the next one will vaporize the pentagon. Maybe Russia and China should order all US warships out of the Black sea and the south china sea. Give them 48 hours to leave then sink everyone of them but I am not a military strategist. All I know is that if someone threatens to kill or destroy me, I would give them a choice to backdafucup or get the crap kicked out of them or worse.
With you Hitting back hard Mr.Putin is still in a “lets be friends ” mode of the “Flower Power ” era and if cut in a 1000 places you bleed to death-dont wait for that and for gods sake take Odessa !
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This is a NATO war on Russia with only one goal, destruction of Russia and control over its immense resources for the ultimate war on China, which is a decade away considering the outcome in Ukraine. Putin being a low level KGB hack is totally ignorant of NATO thinking or capability. Barley 140 million disunited Russians are up against 800 million NATO, EU and other vassals with far superior technology and unity. The Russian military performance and leadership has been from from stellar.Even Stalin mobilized the USSR on Slavic Patriotism, today’s Russia is corrupt to the core and under immense Jew penetration. The average Russian soldier is not really battle ready or motivated and they simply don’t understand the stakes. This is a NATO war on Russia and nothing to to with Ukraine as any person with an IQ of 70 and above knows. Russia is sleep walking into a nightmare.
The one walking into a nightmare is the collective west, dont bring your MSM bullshit here. Try harder.
I wonder how many of those ukie neo-Nazis will go AWOL to stay and party hearty in the UK.
If they dont die on the battle field,they will surely die of aidz,no future for askenazi slothfull scumbags!
A handful in comparison to what is needed.
Wouldn’t matter if they had tenfold,like before russia still creamed them anytime,anyplace anywhere!
Like the other 80% plus elite marines trained by NATO and US sadly killed, wounded or captured and unfortunately so will these ones. This is showing that NATO tactics and advance weapons are not that competent and effective as we where initially lead to believe by Western main stream media!
Good to read a post on the level,it is exactly as you say and will continue because the fed$ are pansies!
They need to be killed, wounded, and captured. They have been duped into being cannon fodder for psychopaths who want to rule the world by killing all those who do not want to be ruled by those psychos.
What’s more important, are they being trained in proper gender pronouns and gender sensitivity?
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Is the last lesson about when and how to raise a white flag?
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British have more evil than rest of the world combined, just ask any Indian, African or even Chinese.
The battle lines are being drawn. This time however we have nuclear weapons and nuclear power facilities as targets. The first time a nuclear power facility is hit with a nuclear weapon, all bets are off on the survival of most life on this planet.
Snake island is useless. Neither side would be prudent to try and take a hold of it. Fratricide must stop. If the USA wants to mine for Russia’s resources, they only need to pay. Both nations gave a lot to the humanity. This all thing is pointless.
What about the situation in Ukraine? Where the fuck is the situation in Ukraine? Don’t tell me the situation in Ukraine is really that fucking bad for the Putin cockroaches.
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Its time for some of these NATO weapons to find there way to Syria or Iraq so that they can be given back to the americans.
For nothing, Ukraine cannot Win this, waste of time money and effort
But Russia can lose the war to NATO.
You know what… the russians are chewing thru at least 500 ukrainian soldiers… per-day…
The russians also go thru 60,000-70,000 artillery shells per-day…
And they think 450 jokers with a handful of rocket launchers is gonna turn the tide???
The politicians of the western world are not only retarded but a complete fail of a joke….
Lisichansk and Kharkov, next dominoes to fall, lots of dead Ukrop scum, keep crushing them Russia and destroying the supplied NATO/JewSA weapons.
Okay, you would wonder what is the business of the UK and US in being in the Ukraine in the first place? Are they slavs? No, they are the British Crown Corporation, a luciferian maritime-law-based commercial entity that owns states.
If the RF is smart, it will use ALL of their still remaining intelligence (which include ethically Russians infiltrated in the AFU) to track those “Hundreds of Ukrainian soldiers”, as soon as they enter Ukraine, intercept them. Threat neutralized.
Salisbury should be a good place to train these troops as there are no civilian flats or homes in the area.
Perhaps this fodder is also getting its rape, murder, and robbery training in Blighty?
Lions led by donkeys. I hope this fodder remember that as they are led to their deaths.
Salisbury Plain is a major training area used by the British military indeed the main training ground for the Royal Artillery regiments . With military bases all around. Maybe Russia should do the same and train anti nato personnel at military sites in the Motherland for possible action against nato at a later time. Special operations executive the British government called them during ww2. But I’m sure that there are many people in the West who’s eyes have been opened to to the corruption and criminality of Western politicians and governments. The war mongers and money changers.
Tens of thousands of “US Trained” Soldiers dirt napping as sunflower fertilizer in Ukraine.
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