Antiaircraft Tank Gepard 1A2, 31 January 2008, by Wikimedia user Hans-Hermann Bühling.
On April 26, German Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht announced that the German government had authorized Krauss-Maffei Wegmann to transfer 50 Flakpanzer Gepard self-propelled anti-aircraft guns (SPAAGs) to Ukraine.
Lambrecht announced the move during her opening remarks at Ramstein Air Base in Germany, ahead of a US-hosted defense conference meant to support the Kiev regime against the Russian military who is currently conducting a special military operation in Ukraine.
“Yesterday we decided that Germany will make the delivery of ‘Gepard’ anti-aircraft tanks possible to Ukraine,” DW quoted Lambrecht as saying.
The Gepard SPAAG was developed in the 1960s, fielded in the 1970s, and has been upgraded several times with the latest electronics. In Germany, the Gepard was phased out in late 2010.
The vehicle is based on the hull of the Leopard 1 tank with a fully rotating turret armed with a pair of 35 mm Oerlikon KDA autocannons, which have an effective range of 5.5 kilometers. A mix of 320 anti-air and 20 armour-piercing rounds is usually loaded in each gun. The combined rate of fire for the two guns is 1,100 rounds per minute.
The Gepard is equipped with an S-band search radar and a Ku band tracking radar, both with a range of 15 kilometers. The SPAAG is also equipped with a laser-range finder.
The German plan to supply Ukraine with the Gepard SPAAGs is already running into some issues. Switzerland is reportedly blocking the transfer of the 35 mm ammunition needed for the vehicles’ autocannons to Ukraine.
The Swiss State Secretariat for Economic Affairs (SECO) said on April 26 that it had received two requests from Germany to transfer to Ukraine ammunition it had previously received from Switzerland. One concerned 35 mm ammunition for the Gepard SPAAG. The other concerned 12.7 mm ammunition.
“Both inquiries by Germany as to whether the ammunition received from Switzerland may be transferred to Ukraine were answered in the negative with reference to Swiss neutrality and the mandatory rejection criteria of Swiss war material legislation,” SECO said in a statement to Swiss broadcaster SRF.
If supplied to Ukraine, the Gepard SPAAG will pose a real threat to Russian attack helicopters and drones. However, it will not likely be as effective against fighter jets.
Germany moved from the being the main opponent of arming the Kiev regime, to one of its biggest military supporters. In the last two months, Germany supplied Ukraine with thousands of anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons.
Like the rest of Kiev’s Western allies, Germany hopes that its military support will lead to the failure of the Russian special military operation in Ukraine. As of now, Western military support have only prolonged the war, worsened the humanitarian situation in Ukraine and hindered peace talks.
Nice, russian paid bots will cry and bark
Say western human traitor trolll….
Ukrop goblins are seething, they lost over 2600 tanks and APCs in a little over a month and now they are literally begging other nations for WW2 tech HAHAHAHAHAH. Not a good look..
WWII tech? Lol, dream on. 😂😂😂
Sorry, but it is.
😂😂😂
As much as you may pretend to laugh, It still is WWII Tech…..
Be generous. Maybe Vietnam war tech.
😂😂😂
Ammo is coming from Brasil from what has been reported and there are still 300k ammo available without restrictions. More than enough until deliveries from Brasil arrive.
Not sure why Orcfront left out that particular part. 🤭
Don’t be Stupid !! Bolsonaro depends on Putin to get Fertilizer and the last thing he would do is to give the Ukro-Clowns Military Assistance.
From Moon of Alabama: “two people I knew were trained as gunners for the Gepard. (…). It took 6 months of training to become a reasonably good tank gunner. It took 12 month, including hundreds of hours in a simulator, to become a gunner on a Gepard. The commander role required even more training. (…) There are probably less than ten people in the current Bundeswehr who still know how to operate and maintain a Gepard. There is thus little chance to find German crews for them.
If the Ukrainians really want to use these outdated systems they will have to train fresh crews for at least a year. Otherwise those guns will be ineffective and of little use.”
What’s the dif? Those Ukies just fire into the air and hope it lands on enemy territory somewhere. Soldier, civilian – all good for them.
It’s the Ukie version of Fire and Forget, LOL.
Very interesting, thank you, John.
Yes, happy time for russian cannon fodder ^^
If they receive those 300k ammunition it will last for approx 4,5h continuous firing for 1 Gepard Flakpanzer. Divided by 50 and they can shoot for about 5-6 Minutes.
Hello, this is from Ukraine Recruiting Office. Ukraine is in dire situation and desperately needs you. Show your patriotism for Ukraine and join and help us to win this war. We can do it. Preference will be given to you due to your experience in human shield and hostage taking.
Ukrainian-Americans demonstrating in NYC are demanding that the mayor empties out Rikers Island, arms them all and ships them off to the front.
That will end well for HATO. NOT
hans, halt die fresse.
Ukraine getting more obsolete weapons. Nothing new. I guess Russia has to use about 50 glide bombs to put those 50 years old tech to recycling, where they belong anyway. If … if they will ever roll into battlefield.
After the Russians get thru with it, there will be more German steel for the recycling bin.
Their steel prob. came out of Azovstal to begin with.
Blow me.
hans halt die fresse.
Christ de nazi ! The Russians should stop oil and natural gas deliveries to Germany and let them suffer. to remind them what they’ve done between 1941 -1943 to the Russian and what have been the response afterward, could happen but this time , without a fight, Germany will collapse economically with his EU scumbags/criminals.
Let me tell you this, you’re the one ”s” who’s gonna bark and cry this time. The time for EU to collapse is at the horizon. YOU, GERMANS, you haven’t learned anything from WW2, the Russians did and they got wiser, YOU, EU/US, you have fallen into their trap, this time you will pay for your arrogance.
The Germans need the EU. If they go back to the Deutsche Mark… their consumer goods become to expensive for the rest of Europe. The entire existence of the German economy now rests on the foundation of the Euro. If each country goes back to national currencies, the German economy will quickly enter recession. The only way to avoid such an occurrence would be for all European economies to adopt German standards in labor and business. Otherwise cheaper Southern & Eastern European labor would make short work of the German economy.
Germany created the Euro for the reason of providing jobs in Germany, to avoid recession, high unemployment, etc. The US already experiences the effects of American corporations that use low-wage, low regulatory countries to cripple The US.
As shown in this article, it’s not just a shortage of natural gas that Europe will have to deal with as a result of its anti-Russia sanctions:
https://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2022/04/europes-uranium-vulnerability-another.html
Europe is caught in an energy nightmare of its own making, an unintended consequence of sanctioning Russia for its moves into Ukraine.
The funny part is that these are supposed to be “globalists”, so they should know about their interdependence in the world economy. In reality they are just politician actors that can’t find pussy in a brothel.
This is true and a cogent observation.
The globalists and their lackeys (such as Hunter Biden) found plenty in Kiev.
Ukraine reminded me of Cuba being run by Italian mafia and American corporations, turning the island into a giant brothel. That was before Castro cleaned them out. Interestingly enough? Castro went to meet President Eisenhower in New York City, to discuss establishing a democracy in Cuba. After being snubbed by America? Kruschev heard about it and had a meeting with Castro, promising unconditional support for a Cuban communist country.
The other issue that American leadership had with Castro? Castro seized corporate and Mafia property; the same corporations and Mafia that had turned Cuba into a sh*thole paradise for criminals. Castro wanted to make American corporations and the Mafia pay for their crimes in Cuba. This at a time when American politicians had very close ties to the Mafia since WWII days in America in Italy. Eisenhower was elected by a business coalition, replacing Truman. Eisenhower realized too late that he had been the useful tool of corporations and criminals. Hence, his famous speech about the MIC, warning America.
Ukraine had become the 21st century equivalent of pre-1959 Cuba. Similar but not necessarily the same in all aspects. Close enough.
Hardly unintended. The global elites plainly state that we are in a transitional period to phase out fossil fuels. Essentially everyone except for the lucky few is intended to be cut off from energy.
Russia trashed its status as a reliable contract partner too now. It’s just speeding up the transition in Europe with this approach.
For Poland it doesn’t matter anyway anymore, as they are independent already. For Bulgaria, Russia now lost one of its last supporters too with it.
Russia is hooked off from Europe even faster. And gas can’t be simply diverted either. The possibility for Gazprom, having to close some of their gas resources forever and losing all possible profits becomes more realistic.
Not a good position Russia is in either. Europe will cope with this in the mid to long-term, unlike Russia, which is losing out even more.
>cope
That was the only relevant word in your entire post LOL.
Cope cages
If you point at it, don’t do it wrong. 😂😂😂
You REALLY are Stupid !! For how long would Poland and Bulgaria be able to afford 6 dollars a gallon of gasoline, while Russian Citizens pay 1.60 and Venezuelans 30 cents ???? NOT FOR VERY LONG until a New Batch of Polish and Bulgarian Bolsheviks rise and Guillotine every pro Western C@ck Sucker in their Nations.
You butthurt? Reality not following your orders?
Poor orc. 🤭
To save on gas, the Poles will be back to attacking tanks on horseback in no time.
Cut your own throat, then sue the store for selling you the knife.
That’s how it works in Orclands? Poor orc. 😂😂😂
Unless the contracts specifically stated payment in one preferred currency such as the Euro? Which appears not to be the case… Russia is perfectly within their contractual rights to require payment in roubles.
While Western headlines scream “Russia cut Poland off from gas”, the articles with those headlines frequently failed to mention that Poland refused to pay for the gas in roubles. In this case, Poland was in breach of contract.
The “best and brightest” EU bureaucrats, Masters of The EU, apparently failed to read the contracts.
Also, any EU state that provides arms (also, training) to Ukrainian armed forces, become a co-belligerent – subject to attack – under international law. In this case, contracts can be canceled. Any Russian gas flowing to the EU is due to Russian benevolence. FDR had to force American banks and industry leaders to stop supplying the Nazi war machine, in 1942… months after Nazi Germany had declared war on The US. FDR threated the American business leaders with treason – which would have resulted in the nationalization of those private companies and death by hanging of the likes of Rockefellers.
BASF has already packed its remaining bags for China and waiting for the next air charter.
“.. with regard to food shortages, yes we did talk about food shortages and it’s gonna be real. The price of these sanctions is not just imposed upon Russia, it’s imposed upon an awful lot of countries as well, including European countries and our country..” – Joe Biden at NATO summit. Russia needs to cut off the gas completely and start exporting pitchforks and kalashnikovs, someone has to stop these psychopaths.
Be careful that the pitchforks and Kalashnikovs don’t turn against Russia, as not everyone is fed Russian propaganda.
Wait, they already do. 😂😂😂
Single ATGM is enough for every single SPAAGs guns vehicle. These are not stronger than tanks.
They are basically just Leopard 1’s with a different turret. But you don’t put them at the front, really, so armor is not as important – the tank base is just for terrain mobility. If memory serves their target range is some 6 km. The radar goes further than that so it seems rather easy to hit it with radar homing missiles from a Sukhoi before they get in firing range.
But I reckon that they will never reach the battlefield with train substations out of order now.
Depends on the type of equipment installed. Radar range was about 15km, firing range up to 6 or 6.5km with the old models (before upgrades were installed). Beyond that accuracy is decreasing a lot.
Not sure how the upgrades were affecting both.
6 km was the firing range with the latest upgrades installed IIRC. And because the radar range is so much longer they can be detected from far outside their firing range – missile away and wait for the splash.
The latest upgrades got missiles too or at least were planned before phaseout. Not sure which type and range, probably a Stinger type?
But most of them won’t have the latest upgrades anyway before they got stored.
Surely nothing that would be used close to the front lines, especially as some man pad types exceed its range or are close to it anyway and are far more flexible to use.
Up to 6.5km was realistic, but I wouldn’t be surprised if official ranges are lower. And I doubt a crew with basic training would manage such ranges besides a luck shot.
I stand corrected, those from the base defense must have had the upgrades already. Our radars were assigning targets to the different batteries, the Nikes and Hawks back then.
The Gepards themselves weren’t in the system however. Not sure if they got included later on.
Obsolete rusty garbage from some forgotten depot.
Clever warmongering Krauts in on the game of dumping expensive crap on the Ukropper bumpkins.
lol everything was free at Zelensky’s bargain basement military warehouse…
you think anyone in the west will ever see a dime out of these drug addicts?
hurry hurry, empty your stockpiles, weaken your armies to support drug habits of ukrotrash carpetbaggers and the shrill shill of the elected transvestite.
These are not coming without engines and optics like Russian tanks. 😂😂😂
Notice that the Germans say ‘sell’ and not donate.
Do they come with operators as well? You know it takes about a years training to be competent in one of these things?
What about repairs, maintenance, spare parts? Where is that coming from? Right now Ukraine has send its tanks to the Czech Republic to be repaired as they have no capacity.
The technical part actually is rather easy to get. Tactics is a different story, but the basics aren’t difficult to get too.
Knowing the Czechs, there are probably enough in the workforce that are sabotaging those things.
no one sitting in one of these will last a month let alone 1 yr. These will get railed the moment they turn on.
I’m surprised the sausage suckers didnt try to flog their circa 44 panzerfausts on them or some starfighters from the canadian junkpile..
I bet that after gayropeans will loose another war to Russia they will claim that it was Russian gas that defeated them like they like to claim that it was Russian winter that chased them all to to Paris and Berlin lmao
Good luck training the crew in a timely fashion so they don’t come too late to the party. Let alone maintenance and spare parts. The west is getting rid of its scrap metal to be dumped on Ukrainian soil. Guess why Krauss-Maffei Wegmann is the supplier: they have them in store since the German military has phased them out.
If they even make it to the battlefield – a big if – then their radar paints a nice target on their backs.
Don’t worry, Russia is as fast as a snail. 🐌
If you say so…
Look at the Southfront map from the 8th of March. Nothing changed essentially.
A lot has changed in the numbers of targets hit and Ukrops destroyed. They are dug in pretty good there, so let artillery and air force do their thing. No use in rushing. Russia has the upper hand and maximizes enemy losses while minimizing their own. There are also some reports of Ukrop troops having to ration ammo already. Out of fuel and ammo they will either surrender or be obliterated. You will see a lot more movement on the map after that will have happened. Or Ukraine capitulates before that, which seems unlikely though.
If you say so …
Look at what Ukrop commanders on the receiving end have to say. And that is POLITICO, hardly an outlet for Russian propaganda. The narrative seems to crumble…
That’s nothing new. And the opinion of a lieutenant is one of many. Nevertheless I believe him that situation isn’t easy for them, but no serious person said it would be easy to withstand the orcs. Nevertheless they do.
Make no mistake, this war can last for years and Russia is barely inching forward. Even if the Ukraine would be losing 2:1 or even 3:1 against Russia, it will be a loss for Russia in the end, as they run out of manpower first. However, the defenders always enjoy the better protection and usually lose less than an invader.
And Putin cannot afford to admit war before the 9th of May anyway, even afterwards he would have to wait before admitting it, which would be a massive humiliation.
And he is desperately looking for at least a single success, which, even if Mariupol would fall by then, is already a humiliating battle too.
The massive numbers of soldiers who don’t want to fight for Putins war isn’t going down either, a mobilisation would only increase this issue too.
“Yesterday we decided that Germany will make the delivery of ‘Gepard’ anti-aircraft tanks possible to Ukraine,” DW quoted Lambrecht as saying.
The German hoe has no shame nor soul whose naZi grandaddy slaughtered innocent Russians as Rothschild’s Onkel Adolf sought to inflict Jew Yawk bankster style fascism on Mother Russia in WW2. Germans still have no peace treaty signed with Russia after that particular naZi genocide. What this evil hoe is doing is turning Germanistan into a legitimate target along with the rest of JUSSA owned Natostan. Germans deserve to freeZe to death in the coming winter for this evil disgusting treachery. Onward to Brussels and the EUSSR Pedovore Politburo that has betrayed every EuroPeon.
Have these animals in Berlin no humanity whatsoever?
Aiding defenders seems to be unthinkable for orcs. 😂😂😂
Feel so bad for Ukrainians, the West is sending all kinds of surplus junk to Ukraine. Those obsolete vehicles and armor will become cold metal coffins for their Ukrainian operators.
Well, you overdosed copium my friend. For example, take a look at kiev region with full of destroyed russian tanks and russian dead soldiers eaten by ukrainian wild dogs….dont be so optimistic :D
hans, halt die fresse
Show us those tanks. You are so full of BS. You cannot accept facts, so you delude yourself every day with some old/new propaganda. You are wasting your life. You can’t change reality by lying about it. That is just desperate and sad, so sad.
Those facts are out there for quite some time and found their way into several statistics.
Denial is not an argument. 🤷
wonder how they get there to do anything. to the detriment of ukraine, ukraine is not like vietnam, afghanistan, etc. ukraine is a wide open space and can see everything from far away, not to mention most railway networks that got destroyed. this shit gotta drive all the way by themselves while avoiding getting destroyed on the way.
Ukies have orders to shell any civilian vehicles along the way, then siphon off any gas in their tanks and post the wrecks on yt as just more Russians in action.
They have forests and they have cities with human shields too.
So, people in Stalingrad were human shields? It wasn’t even evacuated.
Turkey will donate 100 bayraktar drones for target practicing. Then the ammo will be gone.
Turks probably stole the prototypes from Syrian workshops, like everything else.
S-band search radar and a Ku band tracking radar
So then, even a Valentine radar detector should be enough to take them out.
Field service life: 60 minutes.
These tanks are antiquated and training takes 6-12 months. The swiss provide the munitions and they have refused export. This is a stunt on the part of Germany to supply Ukraine, but with weapons that cannot be used on the battlefield. A nice way to clean out the war junk in Germany’s garage.
Someone has to pay the bill. Wonder who that is. NATO has no chance with junk like that. Now they will see how much their equipment can do in a real fight. If they ever make it to the battlefield.
they will get some ammo, because they exert pressure on gepard user states like romania, jordan and katar with some 35mm ammo on stock.
Hopefully they keep the German Iron Cross on the vehicles when they send them, it’s been a long time since the last time Russia destroyed vehicles with Iron Crosses on them.
They won’t have any fuel to move.
gepard is big and slow.
transport vby train or low loader trucks.
good targets for iskander, kalibr….
Russia will not waste their kalibr or Iskander missiles on these Germans garbage.
Only an idiot doesn’t know that it is the US and NATO attacking Russian territories and ships. Ukraine on it’s own cannot do this. There capability to do such attacks have seriously been degraded by weeks of systematic destruction of their land, air and see assets.
Since during the Cold war and up to the present times, US either directly or through weapon supply to Soviets or Russian adversaries have killed over 100,000 Russians. And this is not a secret. US even brags about it and don’t hide ill feelings and vile words towards Russia.
So, what will Russia do about all these. What Russia does best is what they are known to do – pretend that they don’t know who is attacking her. This weakness is very well known by US and that’s why the attacks will continue and be intensified deeper and deeper into Russian territory.
Russia, unfortunately disappoints and disappoints heavily. To the very least, Russia must let the gloves off and start attacking all vital infrastructures of Ukraine including government buildings, military schools, academies railway depots, vital roads etc. etc.
Over 300 billion dollars of their money has been frozen, part of which will now be used for Ukraine purposes. So the gloves should be off and make sure she achieved all her aims in Ukraine.
If they want to demilitarize and denazify, they better start being serious.
Lets see supply weapons to ESCALATE conflicts. Standard EUROPEAN Political-Military strategy for the last 500 + years. But isn’t the LACK of a clear policy statement by the Russian Federation regarding the present operation in Ukraine contributing to this ???
Idiot Germans. The war is over, you lost! That was way back in 1945! This is now! Hitler is long gone!
You are not soldiers anymore! So stay out of Ukraine! Now go back to your beer gardens and drink yourselves silly!
these machines are not operational, this has been reported several times. they are in dire need of refurbishment. there are also very complex weapon systems that require several months of training. in the end it’s just nothing.
Right now russian anti-air def is working 160 km deep in russia territory so its means that new toys from NATO doing its job ^^ cant wait to see destroyed russian airfields around moscow :D
hans, halt die fresse
I hope it runs on batteries..
lol
The German Ministry of Defense: 60% of the equipment is not combat-ready
“On paper, we have 350 Puma infantry fighting vehicles, 150 can be used. Of the 51 Eurocopter Tiger helicopters, only 9 are combat-ready,” said the head of the Bundeswehr, Christina Lambrecht.
What’s not being said is the USA is promising to either buy or replace “donated” weapons. US Taxpayer funded cash for clunkers. So in addition to $5 / gal gas and 25% inflation they get to replace everyone’s junk with brand new state of the art weapons from Raytheon and Lockmart … with the standard 200% markup and 10% for the big guy of course.
You would think after the Taliban seized $28 Billion worth of arms last year and the $trillions of USD the USA printed over the last 3 years the US government would be a little more careful with the taxpayers money but no that are the worlds military Santa Clause.
Then consider that the Taliban was armed with captured US weapons and the Vietnamese are still using US weapons from the Vietnam war … you’d think these dumb cunts would learn their lesson but no … now the DPR and LPR are being armed with NATO weapons and there’s no end in sight.