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The F-22 Raptor is a single-seat, twin-engine, all-weather stealth tactical fighter jet developed for the United States Air Force. The F-22 is primarily an air superiority fighter, but also has ground attack, electronic warfare, and signal intelligence capabilities.
Russians black out only reading the cost of it.
It really makes sense how the US is 23 trillion $ in debt-and counting. And all these flashy toys and can’t win a war like Afghanistan..
better it’s actually 26.5 trillion (usdebtclock.org)
To whom they own that debt, other than themselves?
They own it to private banksters.
The FED is not federal contrary to what its name would indicate…
33% of debt is to private banks both from USA and foreign banks, 33% to pension funds for retired, 33% is inflation – printed money.
Everything you listed is owned by the same private entities.
Which means they can default and destroy the U.S.
Its hilarious that you think the Rotschilds and Co. are working in favor of the U.S.
But than again you also believe the CIA is your friend, lolz.
They entities already started ditching the U.S. and moving their assets to China, their new golden boy.
TOTAL MORON much!
Ruskie troll much?
again your stupidity is displayed—-China, SA, Netherlands, etc owns billions in US treasures—the fake US dollar is no longer wanted by any central bank —while Russia and China possess reserves you have no gold, just fake gold
Ohh c’mon you know this gold is true, here’s a coin for you. Now bend over and spread your ass with your hands like your daddy had teach you
They owe some to me, having bought US $ back in the 90s. :)_
See, that’s inflation. It’s included in their algorythm, if other countries would include their inflation in debt you’d see there is no big difference.
Where did you learn economics, same place Ukrainian army learns how to “fight”? hehe
Hehehe
Not only Afghanistan, they have not won a single war since WW2, and their part there was mostly a sideshow compared with what the Soviets did.
It would be a good plane if it could fly more than a few hours a week and only in good weather, but being careful that there are no enemies around who know nothing of its false invisibility.
You must be confused with the F-35……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
Real unit cost is $300million.
The YF-22 already flew in 1990.
Albeit I once saw a video with an YF-22 test flight and the time stamp showed 1984…
Better than the Flop-35 but let’s face it it’s a 40 year old design.
And there are only around a 110 of them left in flight worthy condition.
the bestest airplanes on the earth.
these reptors are able to eliminate all aircrafts of russia or china, or india, or EU.
In disney movies…
Even there
Only*
And that’s why Russia and China did their best to copy it, but failed miserably with SU-57 and J-20 junk.
Neither is a copy of the Craptor.
And contrary to the Craptor they arent junk.
Skip projecting…:)
In fact the J-20 is based on the Russian Mig-1.44 tech demondtrator from 20 years ago.
My bad, it’s not the J-20 but J-31. The one they claim it’s invisible.
The J-31 is really a copy of the Flop-35.
Albeit China tried to correct its design flaws.
Thats why they went with a twin engine design, instead of the single engine on the Floppy.
They also have a copy of the Su-27 and the Eurofighter…
Its also worth to mention that the Flop-35 is losely based on the Russian Yak-141.
Lockheed bought the blueprints from Russia in 1993 for $400million.
Moddings and design changes were done by British BAE system, we know the endresult..
Do you have any link for that or got the info from the secret Russian bases in Cuba?
There is even info on wikipedia about it.
But its enough if you put the pics of the Flop-35 and the J-31 side by side.
Its an obvious copy.
Albeit a pretty good one.
I eas asking where did you get the data that USA purchased the F-35 plans from Russia for 400 million
Not the plans of the Flop-35, but that of the Yak-141, the father of the YF-35.
Its on wikipedia…
English version, under the Yak-141 article.
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1994 yeltsin era sold the blueprints,later parasite cia/clinton sold them to china:
Looks plausible yet the f-22 project started before 94
Except the j31 is supreme in every respect other than scam sales,+ maybe pilot?
How many times you galah repeats the same old boring/cia (self defeated bullsht)
CIA is also the best secret service in the world.
Not or, *and, combined.
You need to first get a education on the fundamentals of terminal velocity or else,get spooked!
When you reach 4,000 kph then add supersonic/hypersonic accute missiles,ye subsonic retard,
then it beckons how top two fighter jets in supreme situations,both exceed mach 3 (loaded)?
Get back on your tricycle degenerated under educated 5rh grade drop out,learn proper maths:
su-57 and j-20 is BETTAR!
f22 is reputed to be similar to the su57—this is largely irrelevant. in a war Russia would easily defend w s500….and destroy all USA installations w hypersonic….USA did zero when we reintegrated Crimea, Abkhazia, S Ossetia, Pridnestrovia—insecure death fearing amerikans r so pathetic, North Korea now openly mocks them
SU-57 is a failed copy of F-22
Not a copy.
And its a success.
Unlike the Craptor and the Flop-35.
So successful, the first one crashed, the engines are so weak not even India wanted them. Russia begged India for an year to buy this shitty plane.
U.S. lost 6 Craptors and 4 Flop-35s sofar.
Not counting the F-22s that were cannibalized or totalled in hurricane a few years ago.
It doesnt have weak engines.
The prototypes are in the same class as the Craptor.
Serial production engines will deliver a 176KN per engine, which is 25% more thrust that on the F-22.
Russia didnt beg anybody.
If you would know the Indian mentality you would be aware thats their way to lower the price.
Indians arent generous at all, they want everything but for as little as possible.
The same misery went on with the Mig-29K, the Su-30 MKI, the French Rafale and the U.S. made AH-64 Apache.
Its their way, I know that, Russia knows that, U.S. knows that, only you didn’t get the memo it seems…
The key logic stays in percentage, Russia lost the first produced out if 12. Americans have hundreds of of F-22 and hundreds of F-35 and they fly them a lot. Also a lot of countries wanted to buy F-22 but were refused, nobody made an offer for SU-57. Because they know it’s crap. Only you failed to aknoledge that Nobody wants to buy it. Serial production will offer better quality, but when? Americans will have Starships by then.
U.S. has only a 110 Craptors left.
Three of the Craptor crashed happened during testings when only a few dozen were produced.
So you are wrong again.
Given how little flying hours the F-35s get being a hangar Queen, 4 crashes are a lot.
Its nothing wrong with the Su-57 quality, it crashed due to a software error in the fly by wire system.
It already entered serial production as we speak.
Im not worried.
U.S. is still using Russian RD-180 and RD-181 rocket engines on the Atlas V and the Antares.
ISS is still operated by Russia…
U.S. couldnt fix the F-22 and F-35 in decades.
Thats why they started to buy F-15s and Super Hornets again.
The F-35 is a dud, and the Craptor is dying out, being cannibalized to run the rest of the fleet while.no new ones are being manufactured.
They have 185 F-22 out of the 195 built in the 90’s, 110 is more how many Russia military planes are working right now, those in Syria are the best of their best. Speaking of ‘cannibalizing’ I think this term fits perfectly to USSR aircraft fleet.
You are not up to date…
Only a 120 Craptors left.
Russian airforce has been refitted in the past 20 years.
75% are new jets the rest saw a major refit/upgrade program.
You are still living in the 90s.
Worst cannibalization thats going on in the aircraft industry are with the F-22s and the Eurofighter Typhoons.
In case of the Typhoon it will get better tho, since its still in production, not do with the Craptor.
Russia sent only a couple of Su-30, Su-34 and Su-35s to Syria.
Majority are Su-24 and Su-25.
Around 3-4% of their air force.
You said in the previous comment that only 110 raptors left, now you made 120. They went to a battle and returned more it seems.
Typo…
US military pulled these marvels of modern technology from the Middle East. Corrosion issues, the stealth coating melts off the planes within days of new coating applied, and maintaining these junk in battlefield conditions is beyond US capabilities.
They went to battle one was shot down over Serbia by the S-200 system, wasn’t it. That version of
S-200 was not capable of “seeing” a
“stealth” aircraft, much less get a weapons lock.
Or, was that an F117 ?
Face it, you’re embarrassing yourself.
They had hundreds of sorties over Serbia and only one was shot down. The Serbian officer who commanded the AA batery, now has a backery and met the F-17 pilot and they shaken hands. He explained in 2-3 interviews how it happened.
Yeah, I know.
So you know that the missile was infrared guided and not by radar…
So what ?
They didn’t lock the missile with the radar because that’s what stealthy means.
Missile whacked the plane. The junk isn’t “stealthy” it’s that simple. US military stated the coating won’t stay on the plane.
What kind of idiot keeps insisting these junk are something they’re not, and proven not.
By their own country ?
So what plane are you talking about?
U.S. lost two B-2s as well.
One crash landed in Romania the other in Italy.
And a few F-16s and AH-64 as well.
Of course they won’t admit it…
This, coming from a guy who says Dragon X didn’t sent men to ISS and Russia has secret bases in Cuba, is acceptable.
Truth is stranger than fiction…
I bet you make a lot of friends at parties.
Quality over quantity…
The competition is very tight
Oy…
Is that a Hungarian word? Kind of ‘ouch’?
Jiddish
Short for oy vey.
But I use it often. :)
What can I say, Im a bad troll sometimes…
Savage
The baker guy is Hungarian by the way :)
Living in Serbia.
He calibrated the radars to a longer wavelength.
He told he didn’t knew it was an F-117, didn’t know it was stealthy, he saw an enemy target and took a shot.
With an S-125…
From the 60s…
He calibrated the radar to detect the plane from distance but he didn’t guide the missiles with the radar.
The S-125 needs active radar guidance.
At least on paper…
He told the infrared story and it seems credible to me.
It seems some of the S-125s have a manual wave riding mode.
Didnt know about that…
I think back then, in Vietnam, all SAMs were working like this.
The S-125 was in Vietnam.
That optical waveriding is only for back up, it seems.
And I think not all S-125s have that back up function, only later models.
Late 50s developed,proof cccp were as russias todays 1.5 gen ahead (period)
MUSEUM _ CHINA SAY OTHERWISE,YOU ON THE OTHER HAND ARE A LIAR!
RUSSIA @ 95% COMBAT READY
USA @ 28% COMBAT READY,DO THE FKN MATH,INCEST!
I think your numbers of losses of these marvelous examples of US technology are conservative.
Understandable given they fall out of the sky so frequently it’s difficult to keep track.
F-22 crashes generally take the pilot with it. F-35 pilots have generally been able to bail out. Neither are reliable, Russia need not trouble itself with shooting them down. Be interesting to see these operate in Russian winter weather conditions…
??
Pilot ejected ok @ mach one+,what happens next?
Beware of thy overzealous cia/craptor excuse artists,Just saying!
You girly, that one had to pass the mach 1+ pilot eject test,something no usa fighter jet to date has achieved(period) Stop wanking overseas ye assfloggeds!
IDIOT, much.
Butthurt Ruskie, SU-57 is crap. Nobody wants to buy it. Everyone wants F-22 and F-35
Who told you that ? Germany rejected F-35, F-22 is not available for export.
India rejected F-35. The only countries attempting to fly this junk are countries forced to to.
MiG-21 is superior.
Germany rejected it, true but to India was not even offered. Saddam hussein had lots of Mig-21 in 91.
Syria, India has gazillions, Iran, Vietnam probably still has some. N. Korea.
MiG-21 had the longest production, highest number of any fighter built. Unfortunately these had the same radar issues MiG-29 had. Outing them at a big disadvantage
(execpt MiG-29K) now blind in mid to long range threats. Fast, like all Russian fighters agile, and nimble dogfighter. Short range radar worked, Western fighters learned to keep their distance quick, and only engage at mid to long range. Particularly with
MiG-29.
All the upgrades over so many years, (Russian military hardware is infinitely upgradeable) have made the plane heavy. With full fuel, and weapons load they’re too heavy for the engine power available. The engine is overstressed beyond…. (design parameters likely exceeded halfway down the runway how far beyond is difficult to imagine, Russian stuff is built strong) to the point it fails, on take-off. Under full power failure is explosion. Pilot killed.
I guess it took India a while to understand, don’t take-off with a fully loaded plane. Either fuel, ordnance, or combination of both is necessay to reduce the weight. Not a simple calculation. If it were one would reduce take-off weight to design parameters. However, it’s desirable to load as much weight as the plane is able to safely take-off with, but without causing any damage to the engine. It is known the engine can, and will safely operate beyond design parameters with no harm to it. This is the desired take-off weight.
The 21 is old. Production was stopped half a million years ago, making the newest planes old. Too old to justify the costs to upgrade to the extent needed, and no airframe can last forever. Not even Russian. The overhaul, and upgrade to the MiG-29SMT upgrade version is probably at the edge of
cost/benefit analysis. This upgrade corrects every shortcoming the plane had, including the internal fuel capacity, and bigger more efficient engines.
The most labor intensive part of the upgrade. Other versions don’t have this upgrade, all have most everything else. The electronics, and weapons systems are common to all.
F-22 is overrated from the start, as much as F-35 is, it’s simply a more capable plane than F-35. Still fatally flawed, far more shortcomings than MiG-29 ever had, with none of the advantages. Systemic issues that are not answered to this day. The Oxygen generator has Bern unreliable from the beginning, this has caused the loss of several plane’s, and pilots, and the manufacturer, and military can’t manage to correct this. So, F-35 had to have this same system installed. With the same results.
Einstein defines this as insanity.
There’s also a nitrogen system to displace the air in one, or more compartments to prevent fire. Equally unreliable. If I recall it was an F-22 that caught fire, possibly exploded over this system failing. Not too long ago, plane crashed, I think the pilot got out.
It’s hard to keep track, they fall out of the sky all the time.
F-35 is the epitome of the sunk cost fallacy. Absolute proof ‘Mericans are being led by 535 of the most inept people on earth.
Don’t I recall negotiations were begun for India to produce F-35 ?
US war production was moved offshore years ago. Only a handful of war manufacturing is still done domestically.
Components are produced offshore in several countries, all of these countries hate US Government, the components must be imported, then assembled here. What could go wrong with that ?
Turkey was manufacturing electronics systems, and canopy’s, had several plane’s orders including replacement parts. Until Turkey bought S-400.
Erdogan got his ass bitten, and dodged a bullet in a single motion. US Government yanked the contracts to build components, and the order for the planes, and parts cancelled. No F-35 for Turkey. Trump did Erdogan a huge favor.
Turkey’s a loose cannon, playing both sides to gain advantage. Taking all he can get from each side, giving just enough to keep from having his ass whupped. Went too far a few times, the West went to overthrow his sleazy ass. Would’ve, too, but for Russia telling him what’s up.
In Disney movies only…
YOU FEGENERATE LOW IQ WANKERS AIN’T EVEN UP TO SPEED,KET ALONE DURABILITY THESE DAYS,STICK YO BOEING,ASSFLOGGEDS,FK YE SAKES,
CIA SELL TO WEAKLINGS,RUSSIA DEVELOPS FAR MORE STRONGER NOW!
your pork stupidity amuses—refuted by nations that r now purchasing Russian fighters—India, China, Indonesia, Egypt, etc..your CIA paycheck is in the mail
None of that shitholes was F-35 offered to. They are known to buy cheap.
Cant exceed 950 kph without burning fuel cells,talk about se’low cia shtfights!
Well you said it was offered to China which anyone with half of a brain can see it’s a childish lie.
What do you base that on?
By the facts that it was refused by India and that should be enough. But also the first plane ever built crashed, they admitted the engines are not powerful enough – what India complained. They gave it the pompous nickname ‘the F-35 Killer’ – obviously the main intention was to sell it, they admitted it’s ‘not so stealthy’, no other country wants to buy it.
That does NOT explain your statement.
So, please do not deflect an explain some of the technical details as to why SU-57 is a failed copy of F-22.
It’s not stealthy and the engines are underpowered, I already said it.
Yeah, you said it. But who the hell are you? A coffee-sipping couch potato? Point me to some real technical analyses. Until then, your comment is nothing more than harebrained blather.
Look, my goal in life is to please every retard from the Internet, please like me.
Oh, I don’t dislike you. But you making statements about the technical ability of a jet fighter is meaningless. That’s why I asked to point me to a reliable source that confirms what you stated.
As long as i have not been able to verify your statement, I cannot accept it at face value, you understand that, I hope.
But they proved it over iraq you clown,yous sure have a zest to suicide it seems!
What they proved it over Iraq?
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You got that wrong too,too much pigblood?
Su 57 is superior in every respect (period) F22 POISONS PILOTS ASLO TOO LONG TO SERVICE,ALSO PAINTED BY RUSSIA + CHINA,WHERE AS THE SU-57 HAS A DAR MORE ROBUST + STINGENT QUALITY CONTROL THAN CIA/BILDEBERGS (PERIOD)
SO WHY THE HEKK WOULD RUSSIA EVER DARE CONTEMPATE ANY SLOWER FAKE!
PROOF? HERES THE REAL DEAL,CIA-INCEST!
Another overpriced failed project.