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In a nuclear war scenario there would be no true winners.
Written by Uriel Araujo, researcher with a focus on international and ethnic conflicts.
On May 1 US lawmaker Adam Kinziger in an interview at CBS, talked about his proposed bill which would authorize the American President to use the Armed Forces against Russia to protect its “national security interests” and to “restore the territorial integrity of Ukraine” upon confirmation Moscow has used any weapons of mass destruction. This bill is part of a larger trend. It appears part of the North-American political and military elite desires direct war with the Russian Federation – even risking nuclear conflict.
Last month, US Senator Chris Coons said Washington should “not merely send arms to Ukraine” but rather should consider sending US “troops to the aid in defense” of that country. These American authorities are basically stating that a regional conflict should turn into a NATO-Russia war (thus making it an existential issue for Moscow) and potentially escalating into global and nuclear warfare.
This is the worrisome culmination of a kind of rhetoric that has been going on since the beginning of the current conflict. On February 23 French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said during a news conference that Russian President Vladimir Putin should understand that “NATO is a nuclear alliance”.
One month before Moscow started its current military operations in Ukraine, Evelyn N. Farkas (who is a former senior advisor to the Supreme Allied Commander, NATO, and who served as a deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, Ukraine, Eurasia in the Obama administration) argued that Washington should issue the Kremlin an ultimatum (demanding it not attack Kiev). She urged the US to organize “coalition forces” to take action to “enforce” such an ultimatum and even use the American military “to roll back Russians – even at risk of direct combat.” She could not have been more clear. But she does not seem to be an isolated voice.
Shortly after the current crisis began, three retired US generals, George Joulwan, Wesley Clark, and Philip Breedlove (all of them being former NATO commanders) proposed the establishment of a no-fly zone over Ukraine, which would have the effect of bringing Russian and American military closer into lethal conflict and war.
Robert C. O’Brien, chairman of American Global Strategies LLC and a former White House national security adviser (2019-2021), in his April 19 opinion piece, proposed a series of responses aimed at “deterring nuclear war”. They include “sending a message” to the Kremlin about the consequences of employing nuclear weapons.
Basically, American strategists are worried – so they claim – that the Kremlin could use the nuclear option and thus they are advocating Washington do it first – or at least prepare itself for that – in a dangerous kind of reasoning that only fuels further escalation.
Seth Cropsey, who is a maritime defense strategy expert and a former Secretary of Defense assistant (under Reagan) and is also an influential lobbyist and political figure in Washington today goes beyond O’Brien proposal, arguing that the United States needs to be prepared to actually “win a nuclear war”. This seems to make sense even, from an American perspective, but the very concept of “winning” a nuclear conflict is problematic – and it is problematic not only from the US point of view, but from humanity’s perspective really.
Nuclear weapons today are way more powerful than the atomic bombs of 1945 – the only time any such arms have been ever employed so far. Today, the two bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki would be considered “low-yield”. Some of the current thermonuclear weapons which Russia and the United States possess are over 3,000 times as powerful as the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs. The largest nuclear weapon ever tested so far was the so-called Tsar Bomba, detonated over the Novaya Zemlya island (north of the Arctic Circle) in 1961 by the Soviet Union – it produced a 50 megaton blast and a mushroom cloud about 4.5 times the height of Mount Everest. People were able to see its flash from up to 630 miles (1013 kilometers) away.
One 100-kiloton nuclear bomb dropped on New York City, for example, could kill over 580 thousand people, according to Nukemap, a Stevens Institute of Technology-sponsored website. Therefore, a nuclear war today would be destructive beyond imagination.
A 2019 scientific study involving experts from the US National Center for Atmospheric Research, the Rutgers University’s Department of Environmental Sciences, and other institutions analyzed a scenario in which India, a nuclear power, employs strategic weapons to attack the urban centers of its nuclear power rival, Pakistan. The study concluded that in this scenario there would be up to 125 million deaths. Moreover, besides spreading dangerous levels of radioactivity, the nuclear-ignited fires would release up to 36 Tg of black carbon smoke which would reach the upper atmosphere, thus blocking out the sun and thereby dropping temperatures globally to unprecedented levels and also reducing precipitation up to 30%. Amid this darkness and drought, food production would surely collapse, causing global famine and further collateral fatalities. Recovery would take at least 10 years and the political, economic, social, and psychological impacts worldwide could simply destroy modern civilization. It is merely logical to assume a similar scenario would ensue if a nuclear conflict involving Russia and NATO took place.
The dangerous times we are living require good diplomacy and lots of table talks. Instead of discussing “nuclear primacy” scenarios, responsible Western leaders should work to reopen diplomatic communication channels with Moscow. The hard truth is that in a nuclear warfare scenario there would be no true winners.
Nope. But Putin the terrorist cockroach certainly wants to, especially since Ukranian forces are destroying his shitty army. You’d have to assume that the Putin cockroaches would be equally inept at launching them. But that wouldn’t matter to a deranged terrorist like Putin.
Ukraines army is being decimated with 24 hour a day artillery, rocket strikes. Ukraine is not making any significant counter offensives.
So far the only side that has constantly been mentioning and bringing nukes on high alert are the Russians. So it’s pretty clear who really desires a nuclear war.
Sounds like Ukrop logic which is no logic at all. In fact, it’s the exact opposite.
Eres tremendo idiota, Gilipollas
Mira, tenemos un español demente aquí que le quiere mamar el bicho a Putin.
Biden lacks the balls to push the nuclear button.. He’s afraid to sanction Putin’s girlfriend for example..
Old man is not afraid to die, but may be worried about not joining the nuclear-safe bunkers.
Anyone who can die of old age during the first 5-6 years does not get in there.
ROFLMSLAOOOO —– and then you woke up, uKRAPiTrash slug !
SIDDOWN, fewI —- you embarrass yourself with your clownery !
I LOVE THE SMELL OF BURNT UKRAINIAN IN THE MORNING ! ! !
The Jews do not have peace, but destruction as doctrine.
The Zionists want the earth’s population to be no more than 300 million people and most of them to be slaves of God’s chosen people.
A nuclear war will come and leading Zionists have built nuclear-safe bunkers in several places so that the elite can survive there for many years.
No worries. With the planet in nuclear winter, nothing will live very long. ” As it was in the Beginning, so shall it be in the End.”
Muhammad the nasty POS again. I didn’t read your craps but seeing how many down votes you have on every comments of yours, I know you’re the most hated here. You should do something to yourself to stop yourself from inviting hatred.
Don’t worry about the ’36 Tg of black carbon smoke’, WW2 probably had more from regular bombs and the industrial output of all countries.
I would be more concerned about the fallout, but that will only take 3 weeks to kill you off if you get enough. Then its cancer time!
The neo-cons in the US, UK or their masters who are pushing this thing have no regard for human life.
My suggestion: build a fallout shelter in your garage, tell people its a root cellar so the don’t think you are crazy! Stock pile 1 year of food, the more the better.
Hey Moron look at those ruskies roasting at snake island, every day they try to evacuate they get raosted again, rinse & repeat, those ruskies are so dumb. Have a look, on this one you can see “the already destroyed since 3 months UAF air force” having a little fun also
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1523027490230444035?s=20&t=Y7QMe1ib6W3eszwix6hcfw
The Globalists plan here could have worked a few years ago when Russia and China were weaker but it can not work now. Many now see the sick future the globalists plan. A plan where people die in dark corner from a Bioweapon they created. A plan where they rule and everyone else is a slave. They must be made to know if they start a war here they will be hunted down in their bunkers and given swift justice.This plan of using Ukrainian lives to weaken Russia is an open display of their sickness that only a few see.
Let’s see: the US assassinates people in foreign countries all the d*mned time, yet no one ever targets the ZioNazi psychopaths who want to reduce the global population to 500,000,000 by 2050. All Western nations are run by you know whos. Even the good guys let their countries be attacked with bioweapon vaccines. Now the good guys want to save us from nuclear war, but they don’t bother taking out the Western ZioNazis who are pushing for nuclear war. I smell something funny.
Illuminists not “Zionists”.
Russia is weakening itself by starting an illegal war. They apparently even expected the world’s reaction, but didn’t care. They don’t care about anyone. Fuck Russia. Nuke that shithole.
Meanwhile, Ukraine is destroying itself by starting an illegal coup d’etat and installing a fascist regime for 8 years.
See how that works?
” The Globalists plan here could have worked a few years ago when Russia and China were weaker but it can not work now. ”
You’re assuming China and Russia arent in cahoots with the globalist.
So far the only side that has constantly been mentioning and bringing nukes on high alert are the Russians. So it’s pretty clear who really desires a nuclear war.
Nope:
https://southfront.org/does-the-west-desire-nuclear-war/#comment-953707
It was all in response to threats from The West.
Stupid people say stupid things. Fortunately the Pentagon still seems to have some people who live in the realm of reality and know what a war with Russia would mean.
The world owes President Putin and the Russian people a debt of gratitude for their efforts in eradicating the scourge of fahclsm and nahtzism where-ever it rears it’s ugly head.
First germany, and now 75 years later …. in uKRAPistan !
God bless you President Putin and the people you lead !
I LOVE THE SMELL OF BURNT UKRAINIAN IN THE MORNING ! ! !
les vrais gagnants seraient les un pourcent de riches qui détiennes quatre vingt dix pourcent des richesses du monde
Soros desires a big dik in is u r anus !!!
In the US there are around 150 deep underground military bases. They’re cities connected by maglev rail. The vast wealth of America has been used to conduct wars and build this vast network.
This is where the elite of America are burrowing. Maybe that’s why they seem to welcome nuclear war.
The problem here is that there seem to be many irrational people in positions of influence and authority in the US and NATO. These people are not able to even imagine their opponents point of view or concerns. This current war in the Ukraine was entirely avoidable but the behaviour of the American neo-conservative types and the crazies in the Biden regime made it inevitable. These same crazies are now quite capable of triggering a nuclear exchange because they are so used to crushing opposition from backward, 3rd world countries that have been unable to hurt them in response. Russia, however, can hurt them very badly indeed but they seem incapable of understanding that which makes the situation so dangerous.
Dose the Russians want total extermination of their people and nation??
If any nuclear weapon or biological or chemical weapon are used in UKRAINE… Hell will brake loose in Russia.
Try that and see what will happen….
You filthy Russian pigs…
You have no chance in Ukraine.
Zero…… chance…
What is happen in Kharkiv??.
What is happening in Izium??
What is happening in Luhansk and Dontesk??
Tell them the truth you filthy Russian propaganda website..
So let me tell you .
25000 Russian soldiers dead.
Plus we are advancing on every position in Ukraine.
And we are preparing to take down the Crimean bridge.. the drums of defeat are sounding in Russia.
You scumbags you filthy disgusting Russian Orcs 😤
What Ukraine did to you to start this war…???
What??? Tell me what???
Nothing…
You thought that Ukraine is weak and as throughout history Russia has always attacked weaker countries ..
But now we will make you pay for all your history of bullying other countries.
We will kill all your Government officials every single oane of them including the TV propagandists.
What is happening in all Russian cities quite a lot of 🔥 lately?? Hmmm. Makes you wonder are Ukrainians getting closer to kill Putin and his government officials?? Yes we do getting closer you filthy pigs.
When the US went into Libya and destroyed it, that was when I knew that there was a plan for a global empire by insane tyrants in our world. That was when I saw that no nation was safe, that WWIII would be unleashed until the NATO USUK warmongers were destroyed. Every fake reason for waging wars has come from NATO members. The real reasons are not given. Because they CAN do it. Now, with Russia they cannot do it but they are more than willing and ecstatically happy to do it anyway. NATO, the USUKCanadaAusFrance, there are rabid warmongers, they are DECEPTION, they are corruption, malevolence, ill will, they want a massive reduction of the world population. Russia will do our world a big favour by getting rid of them as they threaten life itself, humanity itself, our planet itself. These belligerent nefarious warmongers would remove Russia from history and from the world map. A world like that is not worth living in. I vote against the NATO warmongers. ·
RUS can win it depending on its s-400+(&co) availability. Their ABM performance against UKR’s 5-mach tochka’s has been 99.999% and improving, and it was 100% against a 9-mach ICBM in CN…
Washington would get the worst asskicking.
The hard reality is that one nuclear weapon strike on one nuclear power facility is a mass extinction event.
Most reactor cooling ponds have over one billion curries of radiological waste and over 50 tons of fissionable material.
Nobody knows how much of that 50 tons of fissionable material will actually fission but the billion curries of radiological waste will be atomized.
That atomized waste cloud will create a radioactive dead zone larger than Ukraine and a 100 fold increase in global background radiation. And that’s just one nuclear strike on one nuclear power facility.
Russia won’t need to use nuclear weapons. Russia has Ukraine on the run (Popasnaya, for example) and will not be able to stop Russia. No air cover means certain defeat.
As an American I am sickened by representatives of my country talking such Nuke trash.
After the election in Nov. 2022 they will be gone.
CON SEMEJANTES POLITICOS BRUTOS ESTO VA A TERMINAR EN UNA GUERRA NUCLEAR TOTAL MASIVA GLOBAL Y TERMINAL PARA LA ESPECIE HUMANA
LA SITUACION ACTUAL ES SENCILLA DE ENTENDER Y COMPRENDER OCCIDENTE ESTA QUEBRADO MAS ALLA DE TODA REPARACION NI MONEDA REAL TIENE
Y YA ES HISTORIA VIEJA COMO LA FAMOSA ROMA Y ESO OBVIO NO LES GUSTA ABSOLUTAMENTE NADA A ESOS ANIMALES DE LA OTAN
QUE EN VERDAD SE LA BUSCARON
PERO ES MUY LARGO DE CONTAR AQUI PERO EL PROBLEMA LO INICIO NIXON
Y LO AGRAVO BUSH CON SU TITERE REAGAN PRIMERO
Y LUEGO YA TODOS SABEN EL CUENTO FUE UNA HUIDA HACIA ADELANTE RUMBO AL PRECIPICIO COMO EN LAS PELICULAS Y AHORA NO SABEN COMO SALIR DEL LIO EN QUE SE METIERON