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Without arguments to criticize the Russian decision, Western media bets on “family drama” to defend neo-Nazi war criminals.
Written by Lucas Leiroz, researcher in Social Sciences at the Rural Federal University of Rio de Janeiro; geopolitical consultant.
Recently, Russian troops involved in the special operation in Ukraine gained full control over the entire territory of Azovstal plant, freeing the region from the occupation of neo-Nazi militants and foreign mercenaries. The defeat forced many pro-Kiev fighters to surrender, abandoning their weapons and coming under the tutelage of Russian forces and Donbass militias. Since then, a debate has erupted over what Russian decision would be whether to treat such fighters as military prisoners or as volunteers, excluding them from the norms of humanitarian law. However, Moscow has recently made its position clear.
Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said the Russian government will take a stand to investigate the involvement of the combatants in war crimes. If evidence of participation in illegal activities is found, the prisoners will be put on trial as criminals, following a request previously made by the Donbass authorities for an international tribunal to be established to prosecute neo-Nazi militants who committed massacres in the region.
“Crimes will not go unpunished. The leadership of the Donetsk People’s Republic plans to create an international tribunal on the territory of the republic to try nationalists from Azovstal. Its charter is currently being worked on. We welcome this initiative”, she said.
Previously, the head of the Republic of Donetsk, Denis Pushilin, had stated that a court would be set up with the main objective of making clear to the world the unacceptable crimes committed by neo-Nazi agents, which is why publicity would be heavily worked: “The main task for the tribunal is to be held with maximum publicity, for it to be as transparent as possible. It is very important that as many people as possible are made aware of the unacceptable war crimes of the neo-Nazis”. The court’s charter is currently being prepared by a special committee of different government departments, including the DPR attorney general and Russian legal advisers.
It is important to note that the Ukrainian conflict did not start on February 24, when the Russian operation began, but in 2014, when Kiev launched the first offensives against the Russian-speaking civilian population in the east. Therefore, crimes committed by combatants over the last eight years will be investigated. If evidence of their participation in the bombing of civilian areas, massacres of innocents, torture, collective sexual violence and any other crimes already reported by local authorities is found, their fate will be decided during the trial in the new international court.
As expected, in the West, the repercussion of the news has not been positive, with pro-Kiev agencies adopting a pseudo-humanitarian stance in defense of the prisoners. Over the last week of May, there has been report on some newspapers stating that relatives of the Ukrainian fighters are waiting for news after their surrender, pointing to the “drama of Ukrainian families” who are worried about the fate of their “loved ones” after the trial. Undoubtedly, there is a family drama in every situation of armed conflict and the combatants’ relatives are the ones who suffer the most, but this type of approach is not enough to evaluate what needs to be done to people involved in war crimes.
The reason why a dramatic and pseudo-humanitarian approach has been focused is simple to understand: the West simply has no arguments to oppose the joint decision of Russia and the Donbass’ republics. There is no plausible argument to oppose the trial of neo-Nazi militants accused of war crimes. This is what would happen in any other conflict situation after the fighters responsible for massacres fell into the hands of their enemies. The Russian attitude could be even more radical, subjecting all prisoners to trial, but there is a selection only of neo-Nazis and war criminals, with the Ukrainian military not involved in the crimes being spared and protected by humanitarian law. These conditions are really advantageous for all sides and there is no argument against this, apart from the rhetoric of “family drama”.
On May 28, in a phone call, Emmanuel Macron and Olaf Scholz tried to directly advance some negotiations with the Russian government, asking, among other things, that Vladimir Putin order the release of 2,500 of the Azovstal’s “defenders” (as called by western media). The Russian president was attentive to other requests made by the French and German leaders but did not promise any decision contrary to the one announced by spokeswoman Zakharova some days earlier, delegating responsibility for the trial of the prisoners to the court organized by the DPR.
Given the current scenario, the best thing for the West is to negotiate the sending of observers to ensure fair compliance with the rules that will be established for the court. Paramilitary volunteers, according to international law, cannot be protected by humanitarian norms, so there is nothing Kiev can claim in this case.
It should be so Azovets = IMMEDIATELY 15 years in prison. They didn’t call for Azov, all the ideological ones went there themselves.
Azovets guilty of crimes = life sentence. Azovets is guilty of particularly serious crimes = the gallows. The same thing about Bandera Banderovets = gallows. Bandera members were tried at Nuremberg as fascists. Bandera = fascist. The lives of Bandera are worthless. If you see a Bandera man, kill him
The guillotine is very fast and beheading was always considered the best way to die, for Roman citizens and Aristocracy. It is also very much more definite than hanging. Let theblood flow over the ground. Perhaps some fruit bearing bushes or trees can be grown underneath and they could be called Justice Fruit/ apples/apricots, pears, berries, whatever. Those who feel injustice has been done to them could partake of the fruit and the symbolism of it may make them feel better.
I take it you are an “Ecoist ” –the last thing I would want to do is eat a plant grown with my enemies blood.
Firing Squad
It is then just murdering enemy POWs, nothing else. If an Ukrainian serves on Ukrainian territory, in a battalion of the Ukrainian government or supported and accepted by the ukrainian government, then he is an ukrainian soldier.
If russia treats them as ‘criminals’ (because these brave fighters fought the invader forces tough and ruff and gave them – in military terms – ‘a severe beating’) then that’s nothing but another war-crime commited against the people of Ukraine by russia. Ukrainian men, defending their country are not criminals but heroes.
These are Nazis that we are talking about , you mental midget , they are criminals of the worst sort . Brutal savages.
that would make martyrs out of the ones beheaded. ppl tend to just forget about war criminals much easier if they rot in prison
Meanwhile those Kiev Nazis put random Russian POWs on trial for war crimes in a kangeroo court,if he was still alive the judge could have been Roland Freisler.
that its not include the nazi parazites plandemics digitals abortions corrupted europe of some super cowerd abortions !!!
” drama of Ukrainian families” who are worried about the fate of their “loved ones” after the trial. ”
The blood soaked hands of NATO, since 1991, are 100% responsible for the rape, murder, torture, theft and literal Crucifixion and Immolation of the Russian people in the Donbass and elsewhere in Ukraine. AZOV thugs actually uploaded a video of a DPR fighter burning on a fiery cross in 2015 near Mariupol.
NATO is a truly disgusting and criminal cult.
The criminals should be treated with as much mercy as the victims. Let’s never forget that Ms. NULAND AND OUR SENILE LEADER, STINKFINGER JOE BIDEN should be among the accused.
Any Azov member straight into pig or dog food. Pigs will be happy. Dogs might be but who cares.
The best punishment is a nice sentence of decades of hard labor.
Lots of rubble around Mariupol and elsewhere to be cleaned up. Lots…
Then, they can chop wood in Siberia for the rest of their lives and get rewarded with a cigarette at the end of a good day for their efforts.
It will be very interesting to see how this independent court will be set up.
It should truly include international independent jurists. It is difficult to do in Donetsk. Too much of an emotional, biassed crucible, too near to the fighting. Trying not to be insulting but how many experts in the rules of war, Geneva and associated treaties could there be in the backwoods of Bumblefuck Ukraine? What about Indonesia?
The process needs to be head and shoulders above the kangaroo court crap that Kiev has embarked on. If it isn’t done properly, it will be perceived as a Lawfare pissing contest.
Some of what you say is true, but there’s also the matter of having thousands of witnesses from the Donbass and Ukraine travel there. So Indonesia is absolutely not practical. Greece, Syria, Iran, Russia, or some eastern or northeastern EU countries, would be maybe be practical. India would be the most remote location to still be semi-practical. I don’t see why groups of international experts cannot move to Donbass or a bordering city within commuting distance to complete a legal mission; such a contract would only need to be a year long; maybe less if you rotate groups and have remote work.
I don’t think it is a good idea. I don’t know much about the Law, but this looks to me as a revenge. They are fighters like it or not, and as fighters they are subject to the Law if they violated rules of war.
If they had stuck to Nazi principles such as not being ruled by Jews (isn’t that the whole point FFS?) and not taking up guns against your racial kin, they wouldn’t be in this place.
Thats why I always say that they are not “nazis”, they are just bunch of mislead hypocrites who fought for their jewish leaders in Europe, that is infested with the scum from middle east, trans retards and multicultural and leftist ideas. It’s something that would not happen in the days of 3rd Reich. They don’t understand the idea of national-socialism, or its principles. If they were true nazis, like myself, they would stay home and be neutral or atleast they would not be massacring many people just because they are russian. Btw, I am national socialist who supports Russia in this conflict, and no, I am not a hypocrite.
Dean Arthur –the guy with his leg “blown up ” (Mohawk haircut ) from Stoke-on-Trent -UK has said he will be returning to Ukraine as he says the Azov,s are quote– “a great bunch of guys ” .
Some people will never learn .
“the best thing for the West is to negotiate the sending of observers to ensure fair compliance with the rules”
Nope.
Did the West ever worry whether the Azov and Western mercenaries complied with the rules? Did they ever condemn the murderous Azovs and the mercenaries? You bet they didn’t.
So concerning the trials, the West should shut the fu*k up and forget about being arbiters of crimes that they have instigated.
Word of advice DONT OVERDO the propaganda. The facts speak for themselves, there is no need at all to turn it up. If anything take a few stories from these atrocities and SPREAD them about the internet. With these stories, add that there were so many more incidents but be a bit explicit ie this many children shot going out for water, this many people altogether. Those dying in there apartments, list them and add a slightly longer story of one of the people. The British and US are sick of our propagandas, we can smell propaganda so dont overly propagandise it or you will turn off those who are seeing beyond the Western propagandas.
Russians have a long history of producing evidence against Nazis.
In the Nürnberg trials historians found that documents proving German crimes against humanity had yellowed far less than other documents of that time, because they were from better quality allied paper.
The consequence was, that access to the papers was disallowed and only digitalized versions were available. So Russian lies became historical facts… And people learned that being like SATAN pays for them and their country.
Personally we all know that the Army of Rapist (ups heros) and Torturers (Russians) does not in the least care for international treaties that would guarantee that those Ukrainians only could be put to courtif they did individual crimes but not for fighting in that war.
And shelling an area where Donbass Soldiers take shelter next to civilians is no crime. Or shelling roads and infrastructure used by Donbass Soldiers as well as by civilians is neither.
My grandfather was tortured to death by Russians after surrendering. Never forget, never forgive them rapists…
And to the Ukrainians, better take with you some explosives surrendering and take some of the Russians with you that let you be killed or tortured into submitting lies.
800000 females were r@ped by American-UK-French troops –reported in German newspapers by German female investigator checking on babies born after the war .
Censored in the UK/USA/France.
The Russian legal system is a joke, they are always giving criminals easy sentences or letting them go early. Why did Putin let Khodorkovsky go? Because his mommy had cancer? What kind of nonsense is that? The Russian leadership stinks to high heaven.
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According to Russian investigators, the Ukrainian branch of the international Red Cross non-profit organization has been accused of collecting a worrying catalogue of local Ukrainian children with “healthy organs” in Mariupol.
[….]
Taranenko posted a video of what he described as a search of the Red Cross office in Mariupol on his social media and claimed some of the evidence found there casts the international charity in a very disturbing light.
He claimed the Red Cross office kept medical records for over 1,000 local children, but they recorded their “healthy organs” instead of any medical conditions or procedures.
https://en-volve.com/2022/05/31/russia-finds-evidence-of-gruesome-crimes-in-ukraine-red-cross-keeping-catalogue-of-ukrainian-children-with-healthy-organs-to-harvest/
These ass holes deserve no mercy , this kind need to be eliminated.
Prison ? What prison ? For Azov faggots ? R you kidding me ?? Fucking burn them alive !! Scum !
I think they ought to be allowed to create another regiment, aptly named “Settlers of Siberia”, armed with spades, pickaxes, hoes and rakes.