Azerbaijan Uses Israeli-Made LORA Missiles To Pound Armenian Forces, Infrastructure

and providing the necessary guns, ammunition rockets and what nots to take out the sell out in baku, for good.

So funny….

Pitiful liar troll. You talk as though you’re part of Iran’s Government, telling us what Iran thought, Iran this, Iran that…
What you are is full of pigshit.
Iraq attacking Iran had nothing to do with the goatshit you’re braying here.
It was all about the Zionist Khazar criminal Banking Cabal at The City of London, directing Iraq (Saddam Hussein) to attack Iran to punish Iran for it’s overthrow of the CIA installed Shah puppet, restoring the country’s legitimate Government, and dropping Central Bank in 1979. You idiot.
1980 was the first of 41+ years of US sanctions, the first froze Iranian bank accounts in Western banks. Money not returned to Iran until after JCPOA was signed. Iran was not in a position to fight a war in 1980, yet eventually defeated Iraq in1988. (hehehe)
Youre pretense of knowledge sure as Hell failed you yet again.
You’re as much blah, blah, blah as iron zion.

I can see what you are trying to say and I don’t fully disagree with you.
I still don’t think people would use WMD against a nation/s that don’t have WMD, that being said US of Israel claim Iran have WMD or building it for over 9 years, (which is not true, we saw it in the Iran nuclear deal.) But Iran can also make WMD if they wanted Pak,China,NK and even Russia would help (if Iran came close to a war with US+Zion, giving Iran WMD would make those two hid and don’t do anything stupid) . Israel have it and no one care to talk about.
About Iran-Iraq war, I wasn’t really talking about the Iran past “glory”, Iran also lost a lot in that war. I was trying remind you that (Russia+US+Israel+Arabs countries+ UK+France and some other EU countries) Help and aid Iraq (Saddam) before killing them. Iran own that war, they can stand and fight if they have to.

“I envision whole countries being wiped off the map”
Cities and countries can be wiped off the map but we don’t live in 50-60s anymore, what would you think other countries would do? Just sit there to get nuke by fat fuks in US?
No, other would start/ making more nukes to protect themselves.
Iran have plan for Iraq (to help), I can tell you that much and by time Iraq would be back to normal, countries go through hardships, Iran-Iraq war ended just 32 years ago…I can see why they still fighting- the Kurds – the Sunnis- the Shia- US – Arabs (KSA-UAE-Qatar). yeah…all of them want part of the country.

“crushing the militias, and hand over Iraq to the Sunnis before they leave.”
The PMUs are not fight, they still fight Wahhabi Sunnis in Iraq and Kurds.
I disagree US wants to give power to Kurds and Kurds give rights for US to stay in Iraq, if you didn’t know the PMUs are more likely to attack Kurds over Sunnis or Wahhabis.
Iran – Iraq – Syria – Turkey all against Kurds. They know the problem is Kurds. Fun fact why ISIL and Daesh never really attack Kurds hold area in Iraq and Syria? I wonder why. BTW Daesh in Iraq were powerful then Turkey when attacking. So Wahhabi Sunnis could have take out Kurds…but they didn’t. Kurds are the problem in Iraq – Syria they need to be removed.

“To show how Serious America is about Iraq, they killed Iran’s top General along with other high-ranking Iranian military figures on January 3rd.”
There is so much in to that, in the first place he wasn’t gonna come to Iraq but Wahhabi cun7 make a plan with Iraq government to talk. Trump have no clue who he was you can look it up, he fuking didn’t even know. The IRGC doesn’t work like that BTW these people know they gonna die for sure, there were in frontline in Iraq.
“Iraq is now a problem for Iran, and most likely the ignition point of a possible U.S-Iran conflict.”
Iraq was and still is the ignition point bud, no other country around Iran can invade Iran easily.
US and Iran are heading each other from long time ago, Iran stand and help people who against US all the time. No other country like Iran have piss on US that much.

“If I were Iranian or living in Iran, I’d be very worried for my country and pray earnestly for God to deflect the looming existential danger.”
Nope Iranian are smart and know what they are doing they would be fine.
Iran would be buying more weapons (Jets/tanks/warships) from other countries soon and they can also sell more openly to other countries :)
The world is okay with Iran buying and selling weapons in order Iran don’t make nukes like NK.
But you see the butthurt American and Zion and ofc Wahhabi are dying to stop that, the US know they can stop Iran from buying more Russian and Chinese weapons and goods…so they are selling shity F-35 to Wahhabi states. LMFAO
Don’t you think something doesn’t add up. No country would use WMD I can say that because what would happened afterward, Iran and US might start a war which would kick US out of ME.
I’m not worry or care nor should you.

You made some interesting points about Iran supporting countries opposed to the U.S and standing up to America. But I want you to know that Iran’s help is not entirely sincere. It always has a Shiite overlay and conditional on many things. Please name ONE Sunni Muslim organization that Iran has armed like Hezbollah despite Sunnis fighting America in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, and Yemen. Houthis are Shiite not Sunni.

Again, Iran always tried to impose a Shiite dominance anywhere it goes. In Lebanon, Shiites make only 28% of the population but they have an army stronger than the country’s official army. In Iraq, Iran was about to completely overturn the situation with Shiite militia dominating security, economy, and politics. The prime minister was answerable to the Militias before Soleimani was killed and the PM removed from office.

We see Shiite Militias killing Sunnis in Iraq. They have gunned down over 500 people protesting against the Shiite-led order of the country. We also see Iran’s proxies assassinating anti-regime activists in Iraq.

I want to say something regarding your believe that nukes will not be used. My friend, you are deluded. Because Iran cannot defeat Israel without using its big missiles. If Iran devastates Israel with those missiles, then know that Israel WILL retaliate with nukes. This is something I have no doubt about. Even Russia said if a conventional attack on Russia by America threatened the very existence of the Russian federation, Russia will retaliate with nukes. The same goes for all nuclear armed countries. If a conventional attack threatened to destroy the country like what happened in Iraq, all these nuclear-armed countries will use nukes to stop the attacking forces.

In the case of Israel, Iran is facing an opponent that needs little incentive to use nukes. And raining missiles on Israel will certainly provoke a nuclear attack from Israel. If you study Israel’s behavior, it doesn’t give a fuck about international law or public opinion.

So I see Iran losing in this war with Israel no matter what happens. Iran will not bomb Israel to a point where the Jewish state will be overrun by Shiite militias in Lebanon. That’s because Iran knows for sure that Israel will use nukes in such situations. On the other hand, Iran cannot afford to fight a limited war because it will result in regime collapse. I think the U.S will try to provoke a limited war with Iran so that the regime collapses. We see that there are about 20 million Azeris in Iran and these are not fully loyal to the regime. That means there is a significant opposition to the regime in Iran.

Remember Kurds (Iraqi Kurds) when Iran was fighting Iraq? Kurds are mostly Sunni following the Shafi school and there is a minority Shia population in Iraq (Feyli Kurdish: 800 thousand / shabak Kurds: estimated at approximately 300,000) but there are est. 5.6–8.5 million Kurds in Iraq.
Iran did help them to fight against Saddam but look at them now only Shia Kurds really back Iran in Iraq-Kurds areas, not the Sunnis. The problem is Kurds want to make their own country but no one support them but US and they just want a base in between Iraq-Iran-Syria-Turkey. That why US support Kurds and fool the Kurds – I would say Kurds might start getting push to fight against (Iraq-Syria-Turkey).
Why would Iran help Sunni countries? I know Sunnis don’t like Shia at all, let’s not even talk about Wahhabi Sunnis. Ask yourself would you help the people who backstab you? No Iranian are not stupid they want to support countries and groups that both side understand each others and support each others in hard times.

Why NATO a thing? Russian are Europeans as well and they finished off Nazi germany. Why they don’t support each others. That also goes the same with Iran and their friendships with others.

“Again, Iran always tried to impose a Shiite dominance anywhere it goes. In Lebanon, Shiites make only 28% of the population but they have an army stronger than the country’s official army.”
Do you know how much KSA, UAE,Qatar pay to other countries to teach Wahhabism in EU and ME?
I hate people who don’t look at others and point finger at one country and blame them as they are the only one to do such things tf man. Shia Muslims in their mine are the “real” muslims, that also the same for Wahhabi Sunnis. KSA, UAE, Qatar also support only Sunnis did you know?
That crazy huh? No
Far right Sunnis can become Wahhabi Sunnis – That how ISIL, Daesh, Al-Qaeda got so powerful in Syria and Iraq.

“We also see Iran’s proxies assassinating anti-regime activists in Iraq.”
anti-regime which US put in place yeah why wouldn’t they?
Iran don’t want to get invaded, how hard is that to understand. Look at Armenia wanted to be friends with EU and US….how that want for them?

“I want to say something regarding your believe that nukes will not be used. My friend, you are deluded.”
Right about that let me say this, No US wouldn’t, to this day Russia have their finger on their nukes one miss read and we all fuked.

“Because Iran cannot defeat Israel without using its big missiles. If Iran devastates Israel with those missiles, then know that Israel WILL retaliate with nukes.”
In 2006 Israel got fuked by by Hazbollah rockets which were old type, why would Iran would attack Israel alone, you just said Iran support Shia Muslims – Iran have supports in ME unlike Israel beside US bases.
Everyone knows Israel are shi6 at fight as long as you remove their air force. The first place in Israel that gonna bombed to hell it would be there they hide their nukes warheads. Israel my friend is not that big.

“In the case of Israel, Iran is facing an opponent that needs little incentive to use nukes. And raining missiles on Israel will certainly provoke a nuclear attack from Israel. If you study Israel’s behavior, it doesn’t give a fuck about international law or public opinion.”
Iran like you said have support in ME Lebanon, Syria, Iraq rain down missiles because they know Israel have WMDs and they would used against ME countries. If Iran start a war it wouldn’t start it alone, they work for 30+ years to make this network to fight against US and Israel.

“So I see Iran losing in this war with Israel no matter what happens.”
Why do you think it would be Iran and Israel only LMFAO, you said this buddy read it: “We also see Iran’s proxies assassinating anti-regime activists in Iraq.” It is not gonna be Iran and Israel, Israel gonna kill 1,000s of American before they go down and Iran would kill 1,000s Iraqi,Syrian,Lebanese people before they go down.
Nor Zion nor Iranian would fight alone not a chance buddy.

“I think the U.S will try to provoke a limited war with Iran so that the regime collapses. We see that there are about 20 million Azeris in Iran and these are not fully loyal to the regime. That means there is a significant opposition to the regime in Iran.”
You have to study about MEK and other groups of people who live in Iran. That’s WHY IRGC IS A THING IN IRAN, they have a lot of power and Iran shot down any protects against them.
But they know their limits as well which give power to their leaders. Iran doesn’t go and attack outside reporters or the MEK, they limit their power and let me tell you one thing, Iran watch their people and remove the problems. There are so many government organisations to remove those people in Iran. A lot of people know IRGC but there are a lot military groups in Iran to remove the bad seeds.

Now I know you are very delusional. You compare Iran’s proxy armies to Saudi Arabia’s teaching missions around the world. Iran also has teaching missions. Tell me one Saudi trained proxy that compares to Hezbollah (by this I mean those proxies have public institutions, collect taxes, move and recruite their forces and weapons openly, etc). tell me just one. I am not defending Saudi Arabia or Israel or the U.S.A. but just stating facts. That’s why Iran’s style of helping Shias is going to breed war throughout the Middle east.

You think Russia will go to a nuclear war with America to protect Iran? What a delusion. Russia isn’t even stopping Israel bombing your forces in Syria. You think Russian Christians will side with a Shiite Iran over the Jews? This shows that you don’t understand even the Shiite religion. Go ask any Shiite scholar around you about Christians and the Jews.

Iran may have millions of proxies in the Middle East, but these guys are no match for a nuclear-armed Israel backed by the U.S.A.
This is just the usual bragging of Shiites, but you’ll wake up to your folly when these evil Christian and Jewish powers kill millions of your people.

“You compare Iran’s proxy armies to Saudi Arabia’s teaching missions around the world.”
What Iranian proxy are doing buddy? Giving power to Shai leaders -> their leaders teach Shia teaching. They are not only there to fight for Iran budde, are you delusional?
BTW I just love how you just say yeahh Saudi teaching Wahhabism in EU and around the world is okay, like it is nothing.

“Tell me one Saudi trained proxy that compares to Hezbollah.”
ISIL, Al-Qaeda, Daesh all followed Wahhabism (they wrote their own books BTW) and Saudi aided them, are you good buddy.
Qatar and Turkey were the ones aiding ISIL in Syria – Where did ISIL sold their oil? To which country. TURKEY!!!
Where did ISIL got their weapons? Turkey (sold weapons)- US (aided ISIL to remove Bashar al-Assad)- Israel (aided and support ISIL, I think you know about that picture where ISIS soldiers asked for help from Zion in check point or when ISIL fuking apologise to hit Israel).
Even know we can see Saudi in Syria going in Kurdish held areas with US soldiers to talk with Sunnis in Kurdish area.
Don’t you dare say what about now.
“(by this I mean those proxies have public institutions, collect taxes, move and recruite their forces and weapons openly, etc)” FUN fact ISIS had all of those LMFAO.
“tell me just one” ISIL, Daesh, Al-Qaeda, HTS any Wahabi terrorist group.

“That’s why Iran’s style of helping Shias is going to breed war throughout the Middle east.”
You really don’t look around do you, it was just months ago where US wanted to make deal with Iraq and KSA (energy), Saudi killed 1,000s of Iraqi civilian KSA didn’t hid that they support Wahhabism in Iraq and aid Daesh. That is just facts even now Saudi aid Wahhabi SUnnis in Iraq, some part of Iraq to this day is very dangers, but I wonder how they make money now or IF SOME ONE AIDING THEM.

“You think Russia will go to a nuclear war with America to protect Iran”
Read what I said again.
The word “misread” US not gonna just tell Russia they gonna nuke Iran before they do it.

“Russia isn’t even stopping Israel bombing your forces in Syria.”
LMFAO “your forces” I didn’t know I had forces in Syria (Jk). Russia also have about 2m Zion in Israel LOL. What Israel hit that caused Iran to leave? They hit warehouse/s, nor Iran or Russia care.

“Iran may have millions of proxies in the Middle East, but these guys are no match for a nuclear-armed Israel backed by the U.S.A.” LOL Buddy, Israel start making nuclear weapons in December 1966, they had nukes by 2006 were they got fuked alone againts Hazbollah BTW US had troops there and both failed.

“This is just the usual bragging of Shiites, but you’ll wake up to your folly when these evil Christian and Jewish powers kill millions of your people.”
I take no one’s side nor do I like Shia or Sunni or christian or jews, we can talk who is “delusional” or just point at each others. That would matter, if a war start I believe you and I just can watch it, maybe here. We don’t know so much ofc about what would Iran do or Israel or the US. But you focus on Iranian proxies and don’t think Wahhabi sunnis have proxies? This whole proxies war start it with Wahhabi states, Iran help Shia and Wahabi states help Sunnis.
Wahhabi states BY FAR have much more money to export their teaching around the world unlike Iran, Sunnis majority in Islam.

BTW “but you’ll wake up to your folly when these evil Christian and Jewish powers kill millions of your people.”
I’m the type of person who would take the other side in an agreement, again I’m not Iranian or whatever you think of me.
Ask yourself this, would you be Shia or Sunni if you had to chose one side? As far as I know I would be taking Shia side over Sunni, and ofc I have seem what Wahhabi Sunnis and Sunnis have done in ME and EU, no I don’t like Sunnis or people who support them just because of oil.
15/19 of 9-11 attacker were from KSA that killed my brain when I found out how they got away with it, nothing was done to them, how in the world is it okay to teach Wahhabism – Shia are not better than them but Wahhabism by far is shi7.
I look at as 3rd perosn and fuk Wahhabi Sunnis and Zion.

I gonna end it here, I read your reply if you write back don’t ask questions I done, I see your point and I said my point of view, at the end of the day it would matter what we think. G’day bud.

Post a link

Go search it yourself, jackass.

Yes, I have seen that but the more the better wouldn’t you say :)
Not only S-400 but new Jets/warships/tanks and new rockets. This would give Iran better chance to study those systems and make their own.

LOL.

Israel cannot defeat Hezbollah…IDF is only useful vs Arab conscripts armies and everybody know How Arab armies use to flee from battlefield..if you change Armenian for jus one Arab army….they would have fled from NK days ago!

Maybe today’s Jews will get rid of Judaism like the Palestinians before you. They might even help you do it.

We don’t need any help, thank you for caring.

You’re welcome, I wouldn’t of suggested it if I didn’t think that it’s a serious problem and a viable solution.

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18.5 mm to 35 mm copper hollow point. Up to 12 inches of penetration. More with a higher powder charge. Primarily for enhanced survivability lifeforms.

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I was never a fan of hollow point ammo, give me a good ol heavy slug instead.
Within 25 yards it has the same stopping power as a .50BMG ?
Hollow point is no reliable only works in 40% of the cases.
Also against armor its less effective.

I don’t run a lot of hollow points. It comes down to tissue destruction. I can see where a round like this that makes a 35mm hole, or amputates or decapitates an appendage, would do a lot more damage than an 18.5 mm slug that passes through with less tissue destruction.

It can be argued that the hydrostatic shock from smaller round creates the same wound cavity. It can also be argued that the bigger hole does more damage. There’s also the issue of reaching vital organs. Which hollow points are less effective at on larger targets.

There are a lot of variables. I’m sure that many comparison tests have done. I’d rather have a round like this in case it’s needed than not have it.

I agree with all of your points. This is ordinance that I’m looking at for non conventional threat mitigation, super soldier, bigfoot, off plant origin, etc.. That purportedly addresses the points that you raise.

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https://www.underwoodammo.com/collections/rifle-ammo/products/450-bushmaster-245-grain-xtreme-penetrator?variant=18785699168313

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Nice.
Unfortunatelly in Hungary we cant have guns, well, you can if you are oart of law enforcement, military, govt agency, security firm, sport shooter or licenced professional hunter, it costs a Fortune and you still cant use it for self defense in most cases :(
Anyway…
My dream setup is an milspec Ak-74M with red dot sight and full rail on top.
For long range Dragunov SVD.
Short range M4 Benelli with AP slugs.
For close quarters Glock-31 because in my humble opinion the .357Sig is the best self defense caliber if we look at performance, penetration, recoil, magazine capacity, trajectory, reliabilty.
10mm Auto is hotter but with a lot more recoil, lower mag capacity, and less penetration.
I would also add a good knife, just in case.
Glock Field Bayonette is a good choice, its extreme durable and easy to sharpen.

I’m on the same page and have most of that ballistics wise in comparable calibers and platforms. One thing that has occurred under the Trump administration is a noticeable drop in mass shootings. Which are the main thing driving the extinguishment of gun rights and preventing the expansion of gun rights here and elsewhere. I’m guessing that it’s a combination of psychiatric drug control and stopping false flags.

So if we can have responsible gun ownership here in the middle of a color revolution. It can be done elsewhere under calmer circumstances.

Here it has historical reasons.
We had so many wars and revolutions, they simply wont arm us anymore.
Thats the case since the end of WWII.
Interestingly some EU countries are an exception where you can easily buy a gun and use it for self defense.
For example Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Finnland, Italy.
But there are restrictions caliber wise, you can only use NATO rounds or calibers designed for hunting.
So even in the most gun liberal countries you are stuck with 9x19mm, 5.56x45mm and 7.62x51mm.

The first rule of gun safety is to have one. When I spent a week at the Front Sight Academy several ago years doing course work there were a number of foreign students in my class. So if you can get one where you’re at, you can get what you want here in most anything available to an American.

International waters is 12 miles offshore. There are laws that apply like there are on land. But boaters here take their guns with them into international waters all of the time.

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https://www.radicalfirearms.com/product-p/fr16-450bush-15mhr.htm

Looks sharp.
Im a big fan of full rail ?

On top of scope, target laser and tactical light. A video gun camera and focusing beam laser for light shield use is on my development list. You need the extra rail for accessories.

I agree.
Albeit Im a bit of a psycho because I would use red dot, reflex sight or scope only with an AK, because Im not a fan of AK iron sights, the only thing I dislike on the AK platform.
If I would use an AR I would only use a gas piston one and only with flip up tritium iron sights.

Electronic interference is an issue with my hobby. So having a quick release mount on a scope and radioactive sights is something that I’m working on adding. But ya, all of the electronics and optics make a big difference when they work right.

It comes up to training.
Many pros prefer ironsights over red dot, especially in arctic conditions where even the most premium gear will fog up.

Experience is the best teacher. But you still need the guns and gear to get the experience. I’ve probably spent as much on cameras, drones, electronics and other gear as on guns. There’s a learning curve to all of it. Having the equipment is the first step. But until you know how to use it properly and make sure that what you have performs according to spec. It won’t do the job that you bought it for.

That’s why I’m transitioning out of rideshare driving into mortgage loan origination, mortgage broker, mortgage banker and offshore merchant banker licenses. Starting with a mortgage loan originator’s license. To shift from a 6 figure net worth with almost no debt to a 7 figure net worth. So that I don’t have to work for a living and will have the time for contact work and other pursuits.

Also, be careful with ETs, they can not only temper with electronics but also with the gunpowder in the round, you pull the trigger and click nothing happens, not every type can do it but the little greys can.
Just a heads up.
Best bet is on a small crossbow but thats a one trick pony :)

They can also mess up the functioning of the metal parts in the gun according to some reports. Though there are more reports of them getting shot than not shot.

For example.
It comes in different calibers.

https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/bar/current-production/bar-mark-ii-safari.html

Thank you, I wasn’t aware of the 338 win mag in that rifle. It may be a new addition since I looked at this model. The best value in dangerous game rifles I’ve found is in 375 Ruger. They could be bought new in bolt action here for a little over $300.00 before the shutdowns caused a run on guns and ammunition.

Recoil and carrying weight become an issue with the more powerful cartridges. A rifled slug barrel for my 12 gauge will push the range out to 200 yards. There’s one on eBay for $179.00. A brake can be added. It has a recoil suspension system. There’s a picatinny rail available for the receiver and a 2 round tube magazine extension that raises the capacity from 6 to 8 2″ 3/4″ shells.

Until I shift into a higher income bracket, and considering the tight market, I’m going to upgrade what I have and minimize new acquisitions. I still have a lot of work to do on sighting guns in and making sure that all of the accessories function properly. And run more ops in high activity areas with increased interaction with non conventional, at least for us, lifeforms. To gain more experience. And hopefully begin to normalize, to the extent that it’s “normal”, relations with non conventional lifeforms. With the objective of relations with ETs with ships that are compatible with our species.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.375_Ruger

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.338_Lapua_Magnum

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A shotgun that fires rifle ammo?
Thats unusual.
But its powerful, it has 340% of the kinetic energy of the 7.62×39 round, which in itself is powerful enough in most cases.
I like semi auto only but its nice non the less.

It spins the slug so that they don’t start to tumble to improve stability and accuracy at distance. It’s the same ammunition. Though there is ammunition designed specifically for rifled shotgun barrels. The power is vastly superior to rifle ammunition using the TKO formula, until you get into the higher echelons of dangerous game rifles. The recoil is also comparable, or worse considering the light weight of a shotgun. So they’re 1 shot only under most circumstances. Unless your gun is fitted with recoil mitigation technology.

There are a lot of advances being made in shotgun ammunition involving sabots and alloys to improve velocity, lower drop and increase penetration.

https://www.tarhunt.com/product/lightfield-commander-ids-plus-3-12%e2%80%b3-12-ga/

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Magazine fed, target laser, 100% bolt entry depth, lethal on 100 lb game.

https://youtu.be/Q0vQcjw6zhU

Probably the best bet against exotic entities, Its so low tech aliens wont even recognize it as a weapon :)
Nice.

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You guys are very creative over there when it comes to weapons :)

The end of the aluminum bolts are threaded. The bullet points are bad enough. At least those bolts can be removed without a surgeon and the entry wound plugged so that you don’t bleed out before you get to a doctor. The 4 blade broad heads are a different matter. And have greater stopping power if it’s needed.

The muzzle brake looks a bit unusual for an AR.
Interesting.

I haven’t shot one yet. But looking at the round compared to the .223/5.56mm normally run on this platform. I’m sure that a brake is useful. Especially for follow up shots and speed shooting. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/450_BM_%2B_223.jpg

That round must be slower, with shorter range but with superior penetration, just looking at it.

It’s suitable for big game out to about 250 yards before drop becomes excessive. It gives you a cross between a shotgun and a rifle.

The Browning Rifle Company is still around, they are owned by Belgian FN but its a separate line.
They are specialized in semi auto high caliber hunting rifles.
I think they arent widely known.
But they have semi auto .300win Mag and .338 Lapua Magnum rifles in semi auto, if you want maximum self defense against exotic entities its the rifle to go for, only the .50BMG is better but rifles that caliber are usually too heavy to carry.

It’s a rare niche in Americana, but there are 40 to 50 caliber lever actions here with ballistics comparable to the most powerful elephant guns. With repeatability that you don’t get in a bolt action. There are 45-70 ARs. The 450 Bushmaster is about 80% of a 45-70. 45-70 in copper non expanding penetrators will shoot a moose end to end and will take elephants.

You can get a new Savage 375 Ruger bolt action for under $500.00 that is arguably more powerful than a 338. 30 win mag is semi auto. There are semi auto 338 AR for like 5 grand. But I don’t think that Browning has one in a semi auto hunting rifle.

This article using the Taylor formula suggests that in the largest dangerous game. Taylor took thousands in Africa during his career. That bullet diameter is much more important than foot pounds of energy.

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=173

“We’ve long ago learned that flat-nosed, lightweight, mono-metal bullets penetrate far deeper (in a straight line too) than the typical lead-based bullet of similar weight—FAR DEEPER!”

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=546

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Im one of those pesky Europeans who doesnt trust in DI systems :)
For re-creational shooting its ok, for combat nope.
If you prefer AR ergononics than Hk-416, Sig-556 or Ruger-556, all with short stroke gas piston systems.
Im more of an AK guy ?

Right now I’m more in the recreational rather than main battle rifle category. Think weekend camping trip with a possible need for advanced fire power. Everything clean, well stored and maintained. My hobby is ET/ED/non conventional lifeform (like bigfoot) contact. Getting in a dust up isn’t the objective.

Most of what I have is in a lower budget category than what you’re recommending. But still capable of doing what I need it for.

If things deteriorate further here. That may change. And the points that you raise become a bigger factor. There’s talk now in the event of a Trump win of the color revolution moving out of the cities into the suburbs and rural areas. That’s where things may change with a lower law enforcement presence and more citizen involved community watch and security activity. Which will probably include frontier justice catch em if you can on an as needed basis.

I read someone claim, that if it’s highly likely the offending person would sue you later or otherwise end up in court, it is a better option to kill that person. Would that be true?

Probably not in the US with wrongful death civil law. Unless there was no one to sue you.

A lot of advances are being made with picatinny rail gun cameras. They’re compact and affordable for long guns. It’s only a matter of time before they’re miniaturized for handguns. Which will make it a lot more difficult for someone shot in a citizen involved shooting to misrepresent what happened.