A Closer Look At Russia’s Mobile Biological Laboratory, Deployed To Italy

Darling, US spends around £750 billion on their defence budget, making them the largest and most expensive military in the world. Not the most powerful. Russia spends around the same as the UK, on their defence budget, give or take a $billion. They have the 2nd largest military in the world, which is also the most powerful. Leaving all NATO member nations and’5 eye’ members weapons and systems obsolete.

Remember, the US and Russia are buclear, triad nations. China has just joined the club, or almost there. Yet, Russia has the most nuclear warheads of any nation on the planet, plus, her active service hypersonic.

Your point, with regards Russia spending so little on defence? Whar she has got works, unlike the US. Not forgetting, Russia does not pay the middle man, now do they?

However, support your comment.

Russia spends what it needs, does not rely on businessmen to design their weapons, and so are able to have the second most powerful military.
Russia does not have 13 thousand aircraft, nor 90 destroyers like the Yanks. Russia cannot print money for its armies, as the US has done since WW2. Russia does not have bases around the globe, so getting supplies and men about is impossible for large swathes of the planet.

The US would find it impossible to successfully invade Russia, but the US is no paper tiger. Russia thankfully, has no desire to barrack troops around the globe.
It’s not Russias role to stop the US, on its own.
Russia just needs to stop them from attacking Russia, and its allies.

China will soon be the most powerful nation on Earth, economically, just like the US. The Chinese are also historically against military conquest abroad, it just seems to be the WASPs who want to conquer everyone else.
As an EU citizen, I’m glad that Russia and China are managing to draw the teeth of our loonies, but I’m also aware just how successful the WASPs have been ever since the Normans.

If they are not, that should worry everyone. They have the second largest nuclear arsenal in the world. That’s expensive to maintain. And anyone with those skills will learn English and escape to EU or USA.

Only a fool would compare the Balkans to the USA. The people of the Balkan nations claim ethnic and cultural identities. The people of the States claims no such thing. A Californian is just someone that lives in California now. It’s the same in all 50 states, dummy.

They do indeed have the joint largest nuclear force, you dummy, verified by agreements with the US.
No need to “escape” from Russia, it’s a free country, you p rick.
The US will be the next Balkans, you p rick, as they all hate each other, and are armed to the teeth. Even Trump says they will all commit suicide, ffs, what kind of President says that about his own electorate?
Over 400 million personal weapons in the US. What could go wrong with all the militias, doomsday preppers, and the crazies who believe men walked with dinosaurs 6000 years ago!

Congratulations. You qualify as one of the dumbest people that I’ve encountered her! Congratulations, Dum-Dum! LOL

You haven’t met me, you prick.

This is online.

How much does your Mom charge for a platoon?

Oh. Maybe not “one of” but maybe THE dumbest. LOL I would never “meet” you. If I did, I’d bitch-slap you into 2021. I know a weak person when I text with one. Weakling.

You’re right, I was confusing the U.S. w/Russia. The $2T Coronavirus spending bill on top of our existing annual $1T deficit is growing faster than our imaginary GDP growth (which is now shrinking). People didn’t get my sarcasm. U.S. shale is going to bust, Russia will weather the storm just fine. Only wildcard who will follow Putin.

You forgot the $5 trillion just handed out as quantitative easing to the banks and hedge funds this week. Where do you think that dead cat bounce in the markets just came from?

Sorry, according to integrity Initiative and Belingcat trolls.

From regular Russians? Odd.

He’s just filling the page Hants.

Trolling. He’s a prick who just got blocked.

Should not entertain him, but, sometimes happily feed the trolls, as a sounding board, to spread links or archived facts to others. Nice to know he has been blocked, yet again. Wonder what name he will come back with?

I give them a couple of hours abuse, then block them.

They just want the page filled up with abusive posts, as abuse is what they endured all their lives.

The Jewhadis have been rightfully chased away from humanity for centuries.

What’s a finny story?

You do not qualify as funny, just a p rick.

Finny? What do you mean? I’m a rick? Hard to follow you.

LOL, yes, you are a prick.

Well done, kipper.

Reality much be a total beetch for you, each and everyday, waking up in a totally new world.

why didn’t you mom abort you?

Do the spooks pay you well for narrative reinforcing propaganda trolling?

Does your mama bitch-slap you for being an idiot?

Darling, no cut and paste. Hence typo errors. Off the cuff, chat text, from memory.

Looks that way and the only thing that makes sense.

Cheers Styx.

Of course, they don’t. “Free” in Russia doesn’t mean “cost-free”. Do you know how much a doctor makes in Russia? $700 a month. They make barely more than Nurses. If one expects a second visit to the doctor’s, er, surgery, one better leave something “for tea”.

Surely be to fuck there must be a better English writing person in your troll farm!

I suppose the budget is gone, so the slowmo’s like you are given a run.

Rubbish. You r lying.

Ask any honest Russian.

LOL…now that would be a trick…on this site and Russia Insider at least…
Oh, you’re getting more rude and that is good. But I’m beginning to doubt who you claim to be. And that is not so good. RC can only be MK and it’s never “a Orthodox” but “an Orthodox” in my neck of the English woods. Still, your usually brilliant rudeness is great around here, whoever you are. Keep at them.

Hi Jake. What is RC and MK? Thank you for pointing out my error. Like most foreign learners of English, I struggle with articles.

I had to up my rudeness because there are some very bad people on these sites. It is not in my nature to be rude.

“I struggle… ” = Yes, yes you do!!!!!!

Sorry I missed this. But if you are who you indicate you are, your prof would most likely be MK and that would be Harvard. It would not likely be RC at a military think tank in Hawaii. Yet your posting times sometimes could indicate Hawaii and not Cambridge. Still, your times would indicate you could be the Ukrainian you have been accused of with a great cover story that fooled me. If real, only MK and Harvard make any sense for many reasons.

As an aside, please stop referring to Putin as half Jewish. He is zero Jewish under traditional Jewish and Israeli Law. And there is no definitive evidence that he has any significant Jewish ancestry. Please don’t play into the Blood and Soil racial crap of the Nazis.But if you want to say Ashkenazis get a disproportionate number of Noble Science Awards, I guess that would be OK. };o)

Actually, I’m just reminding people here that almost anyone in Russia could be partly Jewish or Muslim. There was a lot of mixing during the Soviet days. Also, one’s religion does not matter much to me. I find all religions to be equally silly and ridiculous in their own ways. Fascinating, of course, but silly.

As for my posting times. I am home now. My university was the first to close.

It’s a bit more complex. But the major problem is that it plays into the Nazis’ and White Supremacists’ “blood and soil” racist ideology. If you hang around RI some more, you’ll see that. You might ask your Prof about it. This whole Jewish as a religion and Jewish as a national/genetic group or Jewish as an ethnicity or a culture can get quite involved. Being half Japanese does not mean someone is half Shinto. But being Shinto would indicate someone is very likely to be Japanese.

Yes, Jake-San. You are correct. The Russia Insider crowd has brought the worst out in me.

You’re doing really well, Grasshopper. (Even if that is mixing national metaphors. Who knows? We may have to make you an honorary New Yorker. Well, after the Pandemic.) You’re a breath of fresh air around here. The site I escaped to for some sanity, unfortunately, closed down recently. Be well. And keep at them.

I thought you were in Tekhas? Stay healthy.

“Tekhas”? Did you mean “Texas”? That state is definitely not my cup of tea. We’re doing OK here in the SF Bay Area which is a relatively low impact area so far considering we are near where the community spread of this started in the US.

Oh. SFO. Interesting area. Tekhas is how Russians pronounce Texas lol.

Jake, we are who we are. On the internet, that can be whomever.

LOL…well, just found out from your $35 comment that you very likely ain’t Ukrainian. In any case, I like your persona narrative and especially the way you chop up the Russians here. By the way, all I say about myself is actually true. Just altered a bit to hide my actual identity. Had some really bad experiences back aways because if my political activities.

Bad experiences? Did someone from RI track you down?

No. Way before the RI days. Some Central Valley Right Wingers sabotaged my brakes when I was doing organizing there. It’s not healthy to then drive Cal freeways, especially at the speeds I drive, without brakes. Almost was killed. That’s one. There are others of a more up close and personal variety. Do understand that at least a few of the neo-Nazis on these sites, especially on RI, not the Russian Trolls playing such, are want-to-be ideological murderers. They have come over from the Daily Stomer that was forced into the Dark Web. And these goons are too stupid to know how to get into the Dark Web. They also come from about the deepest cesspool of the public Web, 4Chan. Most are harmless idiots. A few are actually dangerous. So keeping your identity hidden if you oppose them is a wise thing.

LOL

And they will tell you that you know nothing of Russia.

They would laugh at you and explain that’s how it is in Russia. The doctor that had Corona Virus. Her salary is $700 a month. How did she afford a ticket to Spain and hotels? Because her “official” salary is not all she makes.

NON OF YOUR BUSINESS HOW.

Another zio-troll from Tel Aviv, no doubt about it.

A residence? His home? You’re not making much sense, dummy.

We know, you don’t know what a residence means, as you don’t speak or read English without your shift manager to help you.

Get your shift manager, you prick.

My shit-manager? Ok, here it is *poops all over your face*. Anything else, Poop-Face?

… and you LOVE golden showers

NHS doesn’t have a duty of care to us. According to it’s lates pi campaign — it is the other way round.

I am so sick of it (years of blatantly careless attitude took a very heavy toll on my health – resulting in a private surgical operation which cost me 10K last month) that I think it should be privatised since it is going to happen anyway.

Sorry to hear you have recently undergone surgery. Hope the recovery is going well.

My husband has done well out of the NHS, purely owing to having a good GP, who understands the benefits of diagnosis and understanding symptoms.

Like you, not impressed at all and would like a system similar to Germany, France, Italy etc, etc, etc.

Having to wait a month for a doctors appointment, is beyond insane. Yet, the average wait, in most UK surgeries.

I would’ve had my hearing in the right ear saved if NHS did the operation on time. They did not in full knowledge that they are killing any chance of restored hearing by delaying the op. Sadists AND proud of it is an understatement.

Sorry, but, seriously know what you mean. Could write a book on their failings and their glee, when it all goes wrong.

Hope your good ear steps up. Plus, good luck getting used to it.

I sued the doctors here, who partially blinded me when I went for a routine check up. The only help I received, was in England, with private care. The doctors in England were, and still are, appalled at my treatment, and the fact that the doctors who did this, are all still working, despite them admitting to the negligence claim. They only admitted, to avoid the courtroom, but their friends in the legal profession helped them avoid that. Their friends, btw, were my solicitors.

Since then, 2003 this started, I am refused normal treatment. I can leave my local hospital with a clean bill of health, go to England and be told that my transplant is failing, after years of use. I spoke with a former Minister of Health one time, he told me that I could never get rid of the top consultant who organised the botched cover up attempts they did to me.

The Western way of life, is far more corrupt than what is admitted to.

Wow, what a story and good luck getting treatment, with regards your transplant after care. Never been a fan of solicitors and your story explains why. Funny, how so many end up as politicians. Together with the power your Consultant yields.

I wonder why funny hand shakes so come to mind.

It must be like the survivors of the USS Liberty, you just want somebody to be accountable, yet, powers that be, will never allow that to happen. Leaving you, I assume completely and utterly broken and bewildered as to why they can get away with it all and you cannot get closure.

Again good luck and take care.

I am the only person in the world with a corneal graft, tubular insert, and a trabecelectomy, all on the one eye, the only person in history.

I was a top shot while in the military, made the rifle team every year, now I can’t recognise my own kids if they stand back a bit.

My doctors in England have pleaded with me to come to England, apply for benefits, and as they say, I will at least get treatment that my own country illegally denies me.
I can’t afford to be paying for airfares every time I need help, and while the hospital in England do every thing they can to lower my costs, complex surgeries cost a lot. After I won my case, I paid off 86 thousand to family and friends who had funded my fight to retain my eye and sight.

Good luck. I was a patient at Moorfields, so know the reputation of the English opthalmic hospital. I was born blind in one eye, owing to the retina and optic nerve never working and under the care of Moorfields as a child. My GP left it to late to refer me, so there was nothing they could do for the eye. Worked to my advantage, owing to other eye taking control and learning how to play with my eyes. Helped by the fact, being born with the problem, you know no different.

Can try to imagine how it would be to have perfect vision, before losing the sight, specifically owing to medical neglect. Glad Moorfields is doing the best they can. Despite all that is thrown at you.

Take care.

Fantastic institution, they would leave me go home after the ops, saving me a grand for a hospital stay. They knew I would follow their instructions, great people.

Your own problems are quite severe, and fair dues to your attitude towards it. I now know just how important the eyes are, and how much I lost. I get cataracts, a side issue from the surgeries, it requires complex surgery to remove them, because of the other apparatus and surgeries to the eye. After the cataracts are removed, it’s amazing how much sight I regain, and its then that I realise what I’ve lost. I was offered a cataract removal here at home very recently, I nearly fell over. They refused to treat the rejection I suffered recently, second time they done that, after they proscribed it. I managed it with steroids, and help from Moorfields. The idea that I would leave these people to get me into their operating theatres ever again is ludicrous, but that is just their way of saying we don’t forget how you shamed us with their foreign colleagues!

Always look on the bright side, lol.

You have had quite a nightmare from it all.

When going to Moorfields as a child, it would be a fun day out. Remember my parents taking my brother (who came along for the ride), taking us to the Tower of London, to see the Crown Jewels. Only, for some reason I wanted an ice cream. Diamonds or an ice cream? Well, I could throw a serious tantrum, when the mood took me. Guess it did not go down too well and did not see many of the jewels. Funnily enough, I have more memories of the Moor Gate Tube Disaster back in the 60s the memories of Neil Armstrong or other historic 60s events.

Bet you will be glad when your dodgy eye consultant has his day. There is a lot of ego and lack of apology in the medical profession. Sadly, because most problems caused, many could be sorted, with just the acknowledgement that the doctor got it wrong.

56 now, with cataracts on both eyes, can’t stand daylight. Some Mormons knocked at my door years back, around noon. I opened the door, and squinted at them because of the daylight. They apologised for waking me, when I abused them. I had been up since 6a.m ffs, but it’s hard to explain the effects of the damage done to ones eye, you would never think of the effect it would have on everyday things.

I often brought my young kids with me, for appointments on a day visit. I had dozens of those. I brought them down to the Tower, the Globe, London Bridge etc. Things I never did myself when I worked in London back in the day. The BoE, I found it weird to be walking by it. I even used a debit card across the road from it, Thread Needle Street. Liverpool St would have been my main connection, but I used Moorgate a few times, some of those stations were quite interesting themselves.

Anyway, best of luck AM, all the best.

You take care.

And who the fuck are you?

Who am I. I am a piece of shit just like you. Who gives a fuck. Are you entitled to your thoughts and opinions . Well if so , so am I. Why is it OK for you to tell Nan-Chan it is lying and not OK for me to do the same ??.

You are a mentally deranged idiot.

Blocked.

Wow , I think it is pretty obvious who has mental problems if that is all it takes to get you to blow your top. Blocked ??. What does that do . Nothing as it just means YOU can’t see what I say. Blocking someone is the most pathetic thing one can do . Pathetic and weak and really no answer to my question as to why can you tell nana chan it is lying but it is not OK for me. That doesn’t make sense , well not to me. So really you have just shown how intellectually retarded and weak you are.. No I am not going to block you as I don’t block anyone. I can take whatever anyone throws at me but obviously you are too weak to handle it.. Stick to wanking in front of the mirror if that is the only way that you can be happy.

Who are you George Evans . What is your problem .. Another one with comprehension problems..

OOOOOH, the little ololoevna didn’t like that. lol

Galicians have the highest concentration of homosexuals in Europe. They just love the leather look. lol

You would know.

Oh dear the truth hurts and your answer is to abuse those that won’t lick your jackboots. Where do you hide your tattoo. You know , the one that is called a manji..

U R such a stupid Beetch!

Whoever she is, she runs circles around most of the schlubs around here…

It is very articulate I agree but being clever with words doesn’t make one’s words right or true as most of its posts show.

On average, her posts are way more accurate than most of the crap posted by the Putz Putin lovers around here…and you know it.

I love you always tell people that they are dumb unless they accept your truth.. Sorry I don’t accept your truth…. and I know that .

Nahhhhhhhhh…I only tell folk they are dumb when they post dumb things. Now I know I’m am likely wrong about that with most of the Putz Putin the Poisoner Trolls around here. They post dumb things because that’s their job. But are well educated or wouldn’t know English as well as they do. I kind of feel sorry for the ones over at Russia Insider. They mostly have to play Nazis which I think should be onerous for any educated Russian even to get a draft deferment.

I don’t spend much time at all , very very little , at RI and as you say some of those comments make me cringe . I come here to keep up with what is going on in Syria and find some comments / commentators interesting. Others of course are a pain in the butt but all are entitled to their opinion.

I come here as I did to RI to learn more about my enemies. Also, for a rare bit of truthful information and research leads. And for the fun of it. It actually has been been incredibly enlightening, if sometimes down right scary.

Yes it never ceases to amaze me with the knowledge on a diverse number of subjects that people have plus that people from many countries talking ?? together.. Interesting stuff sometimes and like you gives me other things to look at for interests sake..

Most of the actual trolls and outright bigots, paid or not, should be banned. Even if we disagree, it would make sites like this way more interesting, educational and useful. But that is a pipe dream since sites like RI and this one are or just as well act as if they are official mouthpieces for the Kremlin. And worse, all too often, just Russian replacements for the Daily Stormer.

Yes agree. I notice that when the trolls are not present lots have more interesting debates with each other which is what it should be about..

I only play When in Rome when the Romans are around.

Off topic but I see America will likely pass Italy for numbers with this viirus on or by this weekend. Deaths are lower at this stage as most cases are very new .. Has it got out of control in the States. With Trump wanting to get people back working to get the economy going is more about votes later this year rather than doing what is best for the country.. What a choice , Biden / Trump. Almost as bad as last time. Can;t you come up with somebody better.

The suns out and we are in lockdown so I am away for a bike ride before it rains.. We can do certain things as long as we don’t group together. Till next time , keep the abuse dry..

We go out to shop and medical. That’s it. If this was NYC, we’d try to cut back on these as well. I generally work from home anyway. And my wife’s job has sent everyone home to work from there. Not so bad. But in a week, I’m sure there will be a run on air fresheners in addition to hand sanitizers and for some weird reason, toilet paper.

Just back ,Plenty families on people out walking , riding bikes as we have lots of walking / bike tracks everywhere. Supermarkets , all sorts of medical , petrol stations and essential services open. All food manufacturers only , working . We can go to the beach as long as it is close. No distance or unnecessary travelling or visiting. No shortages of food or other other stuff as we make it all. Why some people go crazy is beyond me. Lots of people will be out of work and jobs lost so it is going to hurt a lot of people . Wife is essential medical and working and the government pays me to annoy people on the internet so we will be OK unless everything collapses.

LOL…damn, you get paid for this? I wish I could. But it sounds like it hasn’t hit hard where you are yet. Oh, and where might that be? The first time I went out a couple of days after the lockdown, it felt like “On the Beach.” People running red lights, driving while watching movies on their cell phones, riding bikes in the middle of traffic lanes, keeping way to much distance with blank looks on their face. No way we can keep this up for more than a few weeks. Just glad I’m in a relatively low impact area, at least for now.

No the govt doesn’t pay me for this as this is just spare time stuff. It was insignificant a week ago but is exploding mostly because our people are coming home from overseas with it as well as tourists and business people coming in with it. All outsiders now stopped and returning residents are now being isolated on arrival instead of going home first. We have very few here near me and again they were all returning from overseas . Just up the road they had some cattle breeding show and a couple of Americans brought the virus with them and gave it to several locals at the show. We are starting to get community spread so they have closed everything down to get on top of it before it gets out of hand. Aussie is having stricter rules than us next door and as long as people stick to the rules we do have a lot or freedom. Just been out for a walk and everyone is being sensible so shouldn’t be a problem . Lots are out in cars and the trucks are flat out so hard to tell it’s not a normal week end day. Supermarkets are not that busy as people now realise everything is fully stocked so no need to buy 6 years of toilet paper ..
I see gold has recovered most of its big drop last week and silver lagging but it will get there. Same as last time I guess with the need to sell to cover elsewhere. Been awhile waiting for them to move.

So you were pulling my leg when you said this?
“…the government pays me to annoy people on the internet…” Damn, no one has to pay me to try to annoy people on the Internet. I do it for free.
Don’t know which neighbor you are but “On the Beach” was NZ. Anyway, there’s a competition here as to to who can be most outrageous. The Major of LA just told everyone to panic buy ASAP just in case they may get the Virus and have to face full quarantine. There were 3.3 million new unemployment claims in the past week in the US. We are helping the Virus kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. As older folk we are being careful. But I’m not stressing too much since so far my county which was near the beginning of this in the US is pretty much level with a death rate of only one per million. I’m thinking more and more that there are different strains and we lucked out…for now. Anyway, it sure doesn’t look normal around here. Near no people on the streets and very light traffic. Most all closed including half the restaurants that could be open for takeout. Even the Starbucks. Some that are open will only take online orders to pickup at scheduled times at front door or on street pickup tables. Not even call in or drop in for takeout. Again, no way this can go on for a month without going over the edge into a collapse.

No not really . Local idiom I suppose that those here or Aussie would pick up on. If you are on a government benefit for any reason and people ask who you work for you just saying working for the government or the government pays me to sit at home.. Retired so paid by the government to annoy people on the internet. On the Beach was Neville Shute an Aussie Pom and Aussies say the same so well picked up.. I did live in Aussie for 11 years or more I think but been home since 87 so lost a lot of my Aussie sayings. We are very similar but the Aussies are a little tougher.
It does appear to be different strands and our future King injected with the mild version to make him immune. It appears he has a very mild version . I reckon he went and got it on purpose so he can go and get rid of mum and dad so he can takeover at last. That might be a little too British ..
Tightening up on long distance travel so I can;t throw the bike in the car and go up the road to Queenstown / Central Otago and ride the dozens of brilliant bike trails which is a pity.
The government is making up peoples pay for the month and assisting businesses but still some will go out and close down at the end and unemployment will rise . No food places open for anything , only places that manufacture food working to make / process food. BK was the last place to confirm all workers will be paid for the close down. hey had a hic cup in the processing somewhere and the workers were a little upset not knowing if or when they would be paid. All the others had already confirmed all their workers were covered.
Not sure what I said that upset styx , for you yes I can understand that , but now he is really off the deep end just downvoting whatever comment I make. I wonder if that is an early sign of covid19 .. Now I know what it is like to be stalked by a nutcase.. I should go and give him a french kiss so he fees loved.. It is Friday so it’s no abuse day , can’t wait till tomorrow,

OK, got it. So I’m a bit working for the Gov now also since I get Soc Sec while I still have a part time business and savings to hold up my life style. But damn, I have remembered that film as being in NZ. Oh well, saw it some 60 years ago and back then everyone thought if NZ was where the Fallout would last fallout. There’s another of my favorite old dystopian films that kind of touches on this, Things to Come, by HG Wells. I liked NZ the times I was there. Thought of it as a possible escape from deadly radioactive Trump. But my wife would prefer Ireland, her ancestral home. However, the Virus has thrown everything into question. I feel if we don’t have a handle on this in a month we will be heading into the abyss.

NZ is regarded as one of the best places to be should madness descend on the rest of the world. Far away , plenty of food and under populated. Just up the road there are many super rich Americans with their boltholes. Surrounded by mountains which is supposed to restrict the nuclear cloud . pristine water aplenty , very hot in summer to grow all sorts of fruit and snow in winter to kill the bugs. Looks strange now without the thousands of tourist wandering around but it will still be there whenever this nonsense is over , one day. I love it there with hundreds of km’s of bike walking tracks with incredible scenery and mostly no one else around. Ireland is nice too. I didn’t get there when I was in London at the time of the troubles before heading off to Africa thinking I will be back. I haven’t so it is one of my life’s regrets. Plenty of Irish here .
Certainly looking like getting out of control so it will be some time before things start to return to normal , if they ever do.. Almost all of ours are returning residents , tourists and then passing that onto close family. If we get it under control with closing off the airports except to residents and this lockdown then what. Keep the borders closed , or as they have now , immediate isolation for two weeks , sort of kills a tourists two week holiday , . China looks like they have got on top of it with very few new cases last two weeks so maybe it will work.. Sun’s out so better get some fresh air .. Pence or Trump… What a choice..

Nahhhhhhhh…Comfy Unky Joe or Madman Trump. That’s it. But looking like the Madman now, inexplicably. Ireland is great. Especially the more traditional Southwest. But I would much prefer your climate. Anyway, here’s my take on this:

There seem to be two clear factors showing up in the numbers. This peaks in about 30 days from the first 100 deaths in major countries and globally. And the average growth rate during that period is about 10% per day. So in a month, we will likely be at about 35,000 deaths in the US with a significantly decreasing daily increase. And the world will be at about 500,000 deaths on only a slowly decreasing growth rate because of late starters.

Given this, without a seasonal relapse, our total deaths in the US will likely be not much more than 50,000. This is significantly more than the typical seasonal flu season but not twice it. Really bad but not catastrophic.

However, the total global deaths could easily reach a million. Very bad but far from the Spanish Flu Pandemic, IF we don’t have the Spanish Flu seasonal relapse.

Effective drugs and a vaccine will be too late to change these figures much but would help to hold down any new spreads and relapses as well as help phase us back to normalcy and maintain us there.

If we keep the economy on near total lockdown beyond a month, the lockdown medicine could easily be worse than the Pandemic illness itself.

“On the Beach” this is not. Unless we make it that.

I’m feeling much better that this is not the expected case of the optimistic Sturgeon fry. Something else will get us at sometime in the future. But this Pandemic doesn’t look like that Mackerel unless it becomes a Mackerel of our own making.

So far, the only place that really looks to be on the Italy track is NYC. Forget the number of cases. The main reason that is accelerating here so fast is they finally have started to get the test kits out. It is the actual deaths that count. And how CORVIS-19 deaths are determined, which varies from country to country and even State to State here.

And for some reason different areas are hit differently. Some to do with their timely response but also yet unknowns. My area, for example, was one of Th e first areas hit but has been on an early leveling off which seems to have started BEFORE the lock down. The SF Bay Area. Seattle got hit first but has still not taken off. NYC got hit much later and is going through the roof. South Korea was one of the first hardest hit but to this day has had under a 150 deaths. They did take it seriously from the very get home and learned from what happened in China to do massive testing with focused isolation.

I have no idea where this is headed but Trump’s early Pollyanna approach and attitude likely didn’t help. Then his vacillation hurt. And now if he pushes for lifting without focused test based isolation and hopefully an effective drug soon, it will be a disaster in some areas. At least in NYC and likely Florida and Louisiana but hopefully not here in the Bay Area. This thing seems to be acting as if there are different stains.
Since Trump is the worst, most anyone is better. Biden is kind of the comfy caring experienced Unky. Folk would like to take a rest from the Drama Queen in the White House, even before the Pandemic. It’s more so now. And we know he’s just for one term. So his VP pick will be especially important.

Its comments are lies and manipulations of the truth. It doesn’t like anyone standing up to it and pointing out its lies so abuses them, It is very smart and clever but that alone doesn’t make it right.

When in Rome, do as the Romans do. As you know, I sometimes do the same. Turn about is fair play. But you also know that most of the run-of-mill comments around here are crap from the bottom of the cesspool. She sure is far from down at that level. And her truth quotient is really high. As an aside, she is not an American but must have studied here. She doesn’t lie about that unlike a large part of the Russian and other foreign posters on this site.

Paid trolls pattern is running circles (around anybody who has anything of substance to say).

That bit is certainly correct

Heck, paid troll or not, she runs circles around most all the paid Putz Putin Trolls around here as well.

O, well.

Deranged clown you are and will die being one.

Blocked.

And snowflakes like you will just melt away pining for a safe space.

Putin never admitted to invading Ukraine, you prick.

He couldn’t, as Russia has not invaded anywhere for decades.

Crimea voted to leave Ukraine, after the Nazis took over Kiev.

No invasion, just a democratic decision to leave a violent, fascist state.

It doesn’t care about the truth. The truth is like water on a duck’s back to this Troll.

I blocked him, as well as Jake.

Incessant moans, trolling the page full.

Not sure if blocking works does it. Did you block bruno before or after he downvoted you.. I don’t block anyone as I don’t care what they say to me as it is like water on a ducks back. I spent a lot of time in Aussie and they taught me if you can’t take it don’t throw it. I throw lots sometimes so must take whatever comes back. I see styx says he blocked me but now he is downvoting everything I say which means he can see what I write. Not sure what got up his nose but he should have wrapped the shit in toilet paper before he threw it at me..
You were talking to AM about eyes somewhere on here so must get back on my eyes story.. later..

Blocking empties the page, I haven’t got into abusing Brunose as of yet, so I couldn’t be arsed blocking him. Notice how he keeps downvoting me, like a bitch on heat. He’s working with the other losers. All they want is to waste space with bollox.
There’s only so many times you can keep up the insults, without blocking off any sensible posts to read.
Styx seems to be on the same page vis the empire, maybe all the trolling space confuses someone with someone else, hence replies to wrong posters etc, could well be. That’s what Brunose, Jake, Avi aim to do.
Fuck them, and their empire. All the best.

I posted with Jake666 or whatever. As you see, he starts off with semi-sensible posts, but then trots out CIA jargon, quoting sources from, the CIA handbook. Then it turns into post after post about his Mom being a cheap whore, to his dreams of a homosexual relationship with me!

When you block them, and log into DisQus, all posts come up, including the as sholes who are blocked. Then you downvote one of their posts, and hey presto, all blocked users disappear.

Then the page becomes more sensible.
And I can see their patterns when they then latch onto other posters, with all the same spew from them.
A shut mouth catches no flies. lol

That’s ripe coming from a likely Purz Putin the Poisoner Troll, Igor.