‘65,000 Tonnes Of Diplomacy’: London Declares That British Militarism Is Good Militarism

nope, or frigates to help protect it

It is because they are invisible, you know, like the F-35

Argentina also had Mirage’s, the last true old style fighter, not a computer with wings.

Stupid comment. They did not decimate anything. The ships that were sunk were in the main ‘picket’ ships. Put on the edge of the fleet to take the first hits. Sacrificing assets is a ploy in warfare as the objective is to win the overall battle. They bombed the ships in San Carlos but that was pointless as the land forces were already ashore.

The old tub Belgrano was a direct threat (5in guns and armor) and was in a pincer movement with their clapped out carrier. The carrier would have also been sunk if they had found it. By the way I’m not fan of Thatcher and the f–king stupid move by the moronic fascist Argentinean generals meant that the cow was reelected.

Like Nexusfast said, the Argies didn’t decimate the British fleet. Many of their dumb unguided bombs didn’t even detonate because they dropped them from such low altitude that the bombs couldn’t arm themselves, making them inert pieces of iron. Their fuses needed X number of feet to fall in order to arm, they dropped them even lower. Incredibly brave of the pilots, but not very useful. And the reason of course why they flew so suicidally low of course were the British Sea Harriers, of which they were shitting their pants. As they consistently lost in every dogfight with them.

The only good weapon the Argies had was the French exocet missile, to which the British lacked good counter measures. But they only had a handful of them. And they couldn’t just use them for any attack, for the real targets the Argies wanted to hit were the two British carriers. As even they realized that sinking one of them would win them the war. And the Belgrano was a perfectly good target to sink, even its own captain admitted it as such. And it basically won the Brits the naval war as afterwards the entire Argentine navy ran for home and no longer came out to play.

Thing was, at the time the Royal Navy just was not designed for this kind of operation. Which was why it was so vulnerable and still lost significant assets. With the end of Empire it was decreed by Whitehall that from now on the role of the Royal Navy was no longer Brittania rules the waves, everywhere, but to focus on patrolling the Atlantic and anti-submarine warfare come the 3rd Battle of the Atlantic when WW3 would come. That’s why the main role and complement of the carriers was not to carry as much Sea Harriers as possible, but anti-submarine helicopters mostly, with a handful of Sea Harriers to defend against Russian aerial attacks. I doubt that there were any plans to sail a Royal Navy taskforce up to Murmansk. Hell, the whole role of carrier aviation had been under threat from successive British governments since the 1960’s. The Royal Navy even had to call the Invincible class a through deck cruiser as the term aircraft carrier was too dangerous in Whitehall. And the Thatcher government was already trying to get rid of them prior to the Falklands war, with Australia being in the running to buy HMS Invincible. The Falklands war, and the realization that any future war could be more then just the Third Battle of the Atlantic saved British carrier aviation and led us to the extreme opposite today, where the Royal Navy now has two very large carriers, and not much else.

Because one thing still hasn’t changed very much since the Falklands war. British politicians still don’t like to pay much for its armed forces. So in order to get something new and big, something else has to be sacrificed.

Nothing has changed or was invented since WW1
when the Medias owners and weapon dealer was
corrupting in All the Countries the War Ministers
to sell the same weapons.
In France Serge Dassault building the Rafale own
Le Figaro, a major Newspaper with his Bernard Henri Levy
favorite Journalist, more war = more business !
Marcel & Serge Dassault reputation was to have been
Corrupt specialists !
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https://mises.org/library/merchant-death-basil-zaharoff

The Merchant of Death: Basil Zaharoff
08/24/2007John T. Flynn

If the Lord God Jehovah had not created Basil Zaharoff, some novelist sooner or later would certainly have got around to the job. Indeed, it is by no means certain that Zaharoff, as we have him, is not the joint product of God and the fiction writers.

Lieutenant Colonel Walter Guinness, member for Bury St.Edmonds, committed the blunder against history of referring to Zaharoff in the House of Commons in 1921 as the “Mystery Man of Europe.” Having fixed upon him that fascinating label, the figure of Zaharoff became thereafter a costumer’s dummy upon which the news caricaturists of Europe draped whatever garments would vindicate his reputation.

Mysterious indeed he is and still more mysterious he became at the hands of the sensational news portrait painters. The mystery begins with his birth. A French biographer, Roger Menevee? records that he was born in Moughliou, or Mugla, on the Anatolian coast. But a German, Robert Neumann, asserts that Zaharoff, testifying in a London court as a young man, said he was born in the Tatavla or poor section of Constantinople, and he notes that the Mugla nativity is attested by an affidavit of a Greek priest made forty-two years after the event and was based upon memory.

It was never known with complete certainty to what country he owed allegiance. He was a Greek, born in Turkey, who lived in Paris. His right to the ribbon of the Grand Cross of the Legion of Honor was questioned in the Chamber of Deputies and M. Clemenceau had to assure the Chamber that “M. Zaharoff is a Frenchman.” But also he was throughout his life the guiding genius of a great British armament concern, acted as a British agent, was a Knight of the Bath, known in England as Sir Basil Zaharoff.

Journalists said he spoke fluently fourteen languages — which is probably an extravagant exaggeration. They reported how he had confided to a written record the story of his life, filling fifty-eight volumes which he ordered to be burned at his death, while others told how he had himself destroyed the record, two days being consumed in reducing it to ashes in the furnace of his Paris home. Extravagant tales were told of his habits, his amours, his dinners, and the exotic dishes brought fresh by plane from immense distances for his table. But, in fact, the reporters and the historians have produced but little about the personal life and affairs of the man. Searching the extensive but empty records, one fails to discover any documents or letters or speeches or records or meetings or conferences or instances in which the man is actually present. Always one hears that he is somewhere in the background, off in the shadows, pulling the strings, supplying the stratagems and the money.

Yet it is certain that he remains the most considerable figure in that feverish world of the munitions makers that has had so much advertisement since the Great War. Only a few names take first rank among this dubious company — old Alfred Krupp, the cannon king of Essen, the Schneiders of Creusot, Thomas Vickers, the English gun maker of Sheffield, Skoda, du Pont de Nemours, the American powder king, Colt and Winchester and Remington and Maxim. They were all, as Messrs. Englebrecht and Hanighen have called them, “Merchants of Death.” But the mightiest “merchant” among them, the man who played the largest role in the “merchandising” of munitions, the greatest market maker, was Basil Zaharoff.

It was his melancholy good fortune to come upon the scene when the world went in for arms on an unprecedented scale and it was he who, more than any other man, developed the international market for arms. He did not invent it, to be sure. Old Alfred Krupp had played off Turkish orders against his native Prussia when Zaharoff was a mere fireman in Tatavla. And long before either of them — centuries before — old Andries Bicker, Burgomaster of Amsterdam, had built and supplied and provisioned and even financed a complete navy for Spain when the Spanish king was waging war upon Holland. He then explained to the outraged Dutch that if Holland had not armed the Spanish enemy, the Danes would have done it and reaped the profit.

But Zaharoff played a leading, if not the leading, role in that strange world comedy of the arms makers leading the double life of chauvinists and internationalists. They gave us the spectacle of Boers mowing down English regiments with Vickers’ pom-poms, Prussian surgeons picking out of Prussian wounded Austrian shrapnel fired by Krupp’s cannon, French poilus massacred by shot poured out of guns made in Le Creusot, English Tommies killed by weapons produced by Armstrong and Vickers, and American ships sent to the bottom by U-boats built on models supplied by American submarine builders. Zaharoff was the master of what one biographer has called the “principle of incitement,”under which war scares were managed, enemies created for nations,airplanes sold to one nation and antiaircraft guns to her neighbors, submarines to one and destroyers to another. He did what the cigarette people did, what the liquor industry, the beauty industry did — created a demand for his merchandise. The armament industry became a game of international politics, the arms salesman a diplomatic provocateur, the munitions magnates of all nations partners in cartels, combines, consolidations; exchanging plans, secrets, patents. He was the greatest of all the salesmen of death, and, as one commentator has observed, if you would see his monument, look about you at the military graveyards of Europe.

II.

Zacharias Basileios Zacharias — later to be known as Basil Zaharoff — was born October 6, 1849, apparently in Mugla, near the Turkish capital of Angora. His people were Greeks who had lived in Constantinople, fled to Odessa during the Turkish persecutions in 1821, returned to Mugla, and then, when Basileios was three years old, took up their home again in the Tatavla or poor district of Constantinople. The boy went to school until he was sixteen, when some disaster to his father forced him to go to work. He worked, we are told, as a fireman, a guide, a moneychanger. There is more than a hint that these early years were passed amid rough surroundings and that this impulsive and somewhat lawless boy — like one of our prominent labor racketeers, to use his own explanation of his twisted ethics — suffered from lack of “bringing-up.”

The first time I went to Yokosuka I was staggered by the number of warships Japan had.
Pearl Harbor is insignificant compared to Yokosuka. The British navy, about 25 warships, a dozen subs, and the rest are supply, minesweepers etc, the Japanese navy would easily be twice the size of the RN.

The Sailors serving in the British Navy are not really on a good wicket, my son is in the Australian Navy and knows all about it, the British Sailors are getting ripped off that’s what they keep to themselves they don’t do exchanges very often that’s why.

I know everything about Navy stuff.

Japanese dive bombers I believe

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Let Allah rescue whomever He will, I only hope Allah rescues me, everything is dangerous, but I could go to Syria and unite Islam against israel, that way Allah could have a well earned break from looking out for us, people don’t want that because I’m a Stalinist but that’s someone else’s problum not ours because we Commies are mates with Allah and we hasn’t got anything to worry about anyway.

And also Lemon Fresh.
That’s one hell of a lot of paper products !