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On September 11th, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned Russia and Iran that an attack by Syrian government forces and their allies on Idlib Province, the last militant stronghold in country, would result in a “massacre,” according to the Wall Street Journal (WSJ).
“Any attack launched or to be launched on Idlib will result in a disaster, a massacre, and a very big humanitarian tragedy,” said Erdogan. “We never want Idlib to turn into a bloodbath.”
“If we can announce a cease-fire today here, I believe this will be one of the most important steps of this summit,” he said. “This will bring comfort to civilians. I think making such an announcement will be a victory for this summit.”
In the article in the WSJ he also warned that “the entire world stands to pay the price” in the case of an attack. Erdogan failed to secure a pledge for a cease-fire from Russia and Iran, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s main backers, at a trilateral summit in Tehran.
Sputnik cited Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov who on September 9th said that Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan have agreed to maintain their dialogue focusing on the conflict in Syria and the situation in the country’s Idlib de-escalation zone, following the Russia-Turkey-Iran summit in Tehran.
“All members of the international community must understand their responsibilities as the assault on Idlib looms. The consequences of inaction are immense,” Erdogan said in the article reported by the WSJ. “A regime assault would also create serious humanitarian and security risks for Turkey, the rest of Europe and beyond,” he continued.
At the summit in Tehran, Erdogan, Russia’s Vladimir Putin and Iran’s Hassan Rouhani agreed in a statement that there could be no military solution to the conflict and it could only end through a negotiated political process.
Erdogan’s calls for truce in idlib had been called pointless by Putin, as it would not involve al-Qaeda and Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, which are considered terrorist by Russia. Instead, Putin said, he and Erdogan and Rohani discussed a “phased stabilization” in Idlib that could involve peace agreements with government opponents who are “ready for dialogue.”
Rouhani said that the fight in Syria should continue until all extremists are “uprooted,” especially in Idlib, but that the battle there should not harm civilians.
The joint statement from the summit from Russia, Turkey and Iran said that the countries agreed to seek ways to resolve the situation in the province and provided little detail.
Staffan de Mistura, the UN envoy for Syria, said the world is looking to Russia, Turkey, and Iran to find a “soft solution to the crisis.”
Following the summit, on September 10th, Yeni Safak reported that Turkey has speeded up its military precautions in Syria’s Idlib and gave instructions to the 50,000 Syrian opposition militants to be on high alert for the additional military deployments as the tensions escalates in the region. According to numbers cited by the outlet, the number of Turkish soldiers dispatched to northern Syria exceeded 30,000 in the areas within the scope of the Euphrates Shield and Olive Branch operations and Idlib.
Turkish forces are present at the 12 observation points from Idlib’s north to south, which are currently being fortified with cement walls and bulletproof watch towers against a Syrian attack.
Yeni Safak also cited Erdoğan who also said the U.S., which is focused on chemical attacks by the Assad regime, needed to “reject its arbitrary hierarchy of death”.
On the same day, the WSJ reported that the US Defense Department may be mulling the idea of striking Russian or Iranian military forces aiding the Syrian government if they were to launch an assault on Idlib. The report added that the United States would specifically decide whether to strike Russian air defense installations.
Pentagon spokesperson Commander Sean Robertson was quoted by Sputnik saying that the US is prepared to action in response to any alleged chemical weapons use in Idlib. He did not, however, confirm any media reports about strikes on Russian and Iranian targets. “Syria, Russia and Iran should know that the United States and the rest of the world are watching very closely and will take appropriate action if there is a new slaughter in Idlib,” he said.
US National Security Adviser John Bolton said earlier on September 10th that the United States, Britain and France have agreed that any use of chemical weapons by the government of Syria would result in a much stronger response than in previous incidents.
As reported by Reuters, both Turkey and the United Nations have previously warned of a massacre and humanitarian catastrophe involving tens of thousands of civilians in the event of a full-scale offensive.
i still wonder what type of deal Turkey and Russia have in Syria…..Russia has fun with the US crying over loosing a precious NATO member. Turkey insults US in every given occasion. Smashed the Kurds in SYria, the US puppets there. Will buy S-400 from RUssia…..so far so good. But in Syria its obvious that with Russia’s tolerance Turkey has a private terrorist army called FSA but it has great relations with hardcore isis terrorist groups as well. Turkey wants a part of Syria its obvious. Turkey wants to expand to areas lost during previous wars. Wants to restablish the Ottoman empire. Russia is supposed to be an ally of SYria. well?
Erdogan, the man is just full of it. If he was so concerned about civilians he would never had attacked Syria using proxy terrorists.
Isn’t Turkey supposed to confront the Kurds? Still waiting! Just goes to show that there is a possibility that the Turks and the US are in collusion and that their disagreement in Syria is just showmanship. Maybe the Turks and the US want to destroy Russia. Erdogan has betrayed Russia before, one should never trust a confirmed traitor.
Yes and Kurds is just piece of rags that will wipe Washington anus before thrown away overhead.
Forget all the bull shit. what you gone do with civilian population. .easy to bomb them even gas them .for you lot that’s easy maybe.
Why use gas, when normal guns work and were beating the terrorist that your buddy heloed creat?
Only shitbrain jihadis use gas…syria using gas is nonsense, syria is winning, they dont have gas anymore, and its political and physical suicide tonuse it for real, that all nato wishes.
You winning nothing mr you dreaming.poor Syrian people suffering wake up and smell the coffee
What kind of morronic answer is that? The turkish concern for civillians is laughable. If turkey was so concerned about civillians and refugees…wht did it gladly help the opposition, helped isis and al nusra out. Gives supplies to kurds, yes the kurds are getting supplies through your land. Turkey is part of the problem. Then at the last minute you stand on your soap box, after watching terrorirsts run idlib for 6 years, kmowing full well the civillians are suffering MORE under the orcs than they would liberates by the government, and ccccrrrryyyyyt at theb top of your “lungs”STOP, your hurting civillians…
Bullshit youve been hurting same civilians for 7 years now, enough is enough.
Your fake ass humanitarianism may work for gullible americans/canadians/eurotrash, but it wont work for us here.
So you keep licking nato ass, and then you wonder why everything tastes like shit??
moron . Turk looking after near enough 4 mill. Syrian refugees in turkey.still you never say anything about Israel who created all this . licking ass your job. and fuck nato.fuck any foreign troops in Syria fuck Assad to his selfish idiot just likes his papa
Turkey totally pillaged Aleppo took anything worth stealing, Turkey has the morals of a cat.
My cats have morals Sinbad, I would prefer the expression ‘Morals of a Zionist Jew ‘. :)
Turkey keeps the refugees in guarded camps and uses the camps as a source of terrorism. Ergo, fight for Turkey or your family starves and we prostitute your wife and children.
Turkey created the refugees by going along with this foolish us saudi israeli plan. You created your own misery bud. We dont need to mention israel…we k ow they are useless evil dipshits. If your a real turkish nationalist as you claim, you would say crush the takfiri dogs….but your not…we know who you are…
Doing israels bitch work is what you are doing…enjoy being a tool.
crush the takfiri bastard kill them all be my guest except innocent people .
Well, if Turkey hadn’t backstabbed every country in the world, helped create ISIS and stole every last thing they could from Syria, they wouldn’t be in this mess. But they did, didn’t they? So I guess it’s only fair that their turkeys come home to roost. Now Erdo gets to deal with the very scum he helped create. Sounds like just desserts to me.
I would love me a turkey and cranberry sauce roll ,right about now. Yumm yumm!
Gas etc are very poor offensive weapons anyway as such weapons are a danger to any attacking force themselves.
Indeed if you dont car about thenland or the people( like the west treats syria) why not…but in saa’s case certainly not…makes no tactical sense
And certainly no Strategic sense either.
FUKUS must have more to lose than we all thought. What could it be? The just demise of the Saudi Royals and their massive arms sales ?
I cannot recall such a hysterical frenzy even in WW1 and 2 .
Certainly not in peacetime.
Could it be that FUKUS are so indebted that only the inflation caused by all wars can save their collapse ?
Don’t bother with the terrorist above.
You OK? Looks like you are having a fit!
Not at all I’m very calm I know what I’m talking about maybe you start seeing things .not to worry just take your tablet you going ?
Not so sure about your state of mind…..you seem utterly confused, in a daze. Dementia does that!
He’s a walking, bullshit talking Turdish idiot
Keep off the captagon Mustafa.
Its doing you no good.
The USA is the proven wanton killer of civilians in ALL of her conflicts.
Agree with you yanks biggest killer kovboys. bastardi
something not many know or never think about it. kurds are 30% almost of the vote in turkey and they do vote in their majority ertogan. This what is happening is a fixed game from the get go so….
Erdogan is the original Mr Slime, he would sell his children for the right price.
Turkey has always been slimy, that’s why nobody likes Turkey.
What is interesting. Turkey will not help save the 200 US and UK Forces, over in Idlib, but, Russia offered to help them leave. The UK freaked out at the thought of Russian help, declining it, to let their Forces rot. Nice Government. Now what was it Kissinger said, with regards the military? Who would sign up to serve the likes of him and his ilk?
“Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign
policy” Henry Kissinger
US and UK Forces Trapped in Idlib
https://beforeitsnews.com/v3/awakening-start-here/2018/11348.html
Yes, if Turdkey is faking the fallout with NATO, the sacrifice of foreign NATO SFs will not go over too well. But what else can he do? Zip. When he found out at the summit that it was still a go and that the terrorists were to be eliminated, he went crying to the western MSM. Then, coincidentally, it comes out today that the CW ‘attack’ has been filmed and is to be released today. Yeah, the thought of Russia evacuating western assets (and then being in a position to out them) probably caused a bit of wretching in the west. Then there is the whole question of those proxies and where they end up. I like the Russian idea of sending them back to their home countries. I sure would hate to be a jihadi headed home to Chechnya.
I listened to the Turkish envoy to the UN, with regards the emergency meeting. He seemed more team US/UK/France, then team Syria. Wonder which side they will slither to, tomorrow?
Let us admit the brutal truth here – Turkey has invaded and occupied the whole of northern Syria west of Euphrates, that is Afrin and northern Aleppo , at very little cost or resistance. Similarily Turkey has constructed multiple forward bases throughout Iblib, again without any resistance. Now Turkey is re-inforcing and deploying directly into Iblib from Hatay, again without even a squeak of protest or resistance. Make no mistake-this is no temporary incursion but prelude to full-scale permanent occupation, just like northern Cyprus in 1973. How can Turkey do this ? Simple answer Turkey is a full member of NATO – this means no country, neither Russia, Iran, or Syria is going to stop the Turks because this would mean war with NATO. Forget the fake US-Turkey quarrels, that is mere political posturing and grandstanding, just ask the simple question : who is prepared to have a shooting war with any NATO member to defend Syria ? Sad answer is no-one. The Turks understand this, just like the Israelis first they invade, create “facts on the ground” (bases, settlements, population transfers ) then remain – forever.
Turkey has 2 goals. 1st one is to eliminate Kurds. I’m OK with it because Kurds were terrorists in the past, they are terrorists now and they will be terrorists in the future. So eliminating all Kurds in north Syria by Turkish forces is perfectly legit from my point of view.
2nd goal is establish military bases, control north Syria and support FSA and other “rebels” and eventually topple Assad’s regime. Well, Russia didn’t much against it as they were busy with ISIS and other USA-SaudiArabia-Israhell proxies.
But now the time comes to eliminate FSA, rebels and Turkish army.
If Erdogan didn’t catch it : game is over.
We all know that Turkey supported ISIS , bought crude oil from them, sell weapons to jihadists and downed Russian bomber. Nobody has forgotten that.
Attack on Erdogan’s forces is perfectly legit as he is occupying Syria and therefore article NATO 5 about collective defense can’t be triggered :D
Yes, but NATO article 5 didn’t stop them attacking Libya, this is about brute force , legit or not. Everyone know US and NATO allies are “illegal ” aggressors in Syria but no-one can do anything about it.
I think some can and already doing it. The question is not idlip the question is the whole of syria.
The Achilles heel for Russia is the closest supply route via the Bosporus .
the empty treasury ;)
The 23 trillion dollar US national debt does show an empty treasury I agree :)
this is nothing.
It will be ‘nothing’ eventually as hyper inflation is triggered in the USA. :)
I might like that, if Russia disconnect Turkey from Europe. Some A-bombs might even widen out Bosperus and Dardanelles.
That’s a very racist comment Jens and surely not in accord with Danish Democratic Values :)
Even if you make a valid point.
NATO is already taken on by SCO, in case you missed this and all the fits they have nato countries is because they know are seating ducks for the russians and the chinese. That russia dont want to bring this in an open global conflict and take them one piece at the time does not alter the fact that russia and nato are at war is not dispute about it, just the gloves have not yet been taken out and is happening with proxies. Soon this will not be possible.
All Russia wants is trade in my opinion and has no intention or need to occupy any NATO countries. It would be totally counter productive and a waste of money to do so.
China also desires more trade BUT does have certain political ambitions as well. Rather akin to the British and Dutch domination of India and the Far East in previous centuries.
we agree.
XXX and a bunch of flowers + a box of chocolates are on their way to you Promitheas :)
I thank you :-)
” this would mean war with NATO ”
On this point you are mistaken. The NATO all for one doctrine does not include a NAT0 nation that ATTACKS another country illegally as the Turks have done. Especially when no UN mandate has authorised this.
It would be up to NATO states do decide whether to individually become involved in the illegality as FUKUS would do, IF their home countries do not stage mass protests as I suspect they would.
Although I give you this POV as correct, it also remains true that NATO and it’s members can literally do as they please. If they can promote a CWFF in Syria, repeatedly, broadcast this lie to the world and then act on it with concerted action, which is also illegal, it is doubtful anything like a legality would stand in their way. As with the Russian jet shoot-down, Erdo claimed it entered their airspace, Russia denied it, but the plane was just as shot down regardless. Not to mention the real status of Turkey with respect to NATO, which is as questionable as Ergo’s true intentions.
I agree with all that you say Zman.
I just trust in President Putins ability to be many moves ahead in this chess game .
Syria is going to stop the Turks, they have invaded and now that south Syria is clean, so SAA will now clean north Syria. Syria has been at war with US/UK (NATO) for seven years and are winning.
Yes, Assad knows who is who. Erdo is the rabid Zio cur from the north and it will be put down. Assad is no fool. Turkey will leave or lose their forces.
Erdogan is putting on a show for his jihadi “friends”, in the hope that when they run across the border into Turkey they don’t turn on him.
Read John Brown’s reply to Merijin below. “The Day US Military Supremacy Publicly Ended”, by Donald W. Miller great read.
The US military knows it is out gunned, Turkey will definitely leave.
Turkey does however have a large standing army and the army pension funds are heavily invested in the Turkish economy, such as cement works. Erdogan is only a Military Coup away from death.
With the threat that came from his dogs in Idlib, you’re proven correct in that. But Erdo can’t have them in Turkey for long. They’ve either got to be sent elsewhere (Iraq, Afghan?) before they get ideas (or new zionist orders)…or slaughtered. The FUKUS cabal would not like that. What to do, what to do? Which way do I jump now? I bet he’d like to have his balls back from Putin fist.
what with bake beans :>
TRNC liberated 1974 not 73
No boy, NATO is not behind turkey. Russia could stop them, but because of need of money putin licks the ass of Erdogan. Putin betrayed Sria, syrian people. Tipical commie son of the bitch!
u folks here still dont catcj the drift hahaha…unbelievable..how often…The Agenda
A one world governmnet, with jerusalem as its capital under satanic jewish leadership.ALL countries that RECOGNIZE the illegal satanic state of israel are part of this agenda, including USA,RUSSIA,UK,CHINA etc…
Only those countries that DO NOT RECOGNIZE the illegal satanic state of israel are NOT PART of the agenda, including jemen,syria,lebanon,iraq,iran,nk,malaysia…
Russia and usa, are 2 sides of the same coin.
point 1. Only russia could give turkey the green light to invade syria in afrin area.They did.Donkeys here were calling that a great idea and praised putin.well monkeys…turkey is a well armed nation and part of nato.
point 2. turkey has also invaded the areas around manjib and aleppo.only through the green light of the usa was that possible.right now, turkish an us nato forces including french forces are TOGETHER patrolling that area.
point 3. israel has attacked syria over 200x during this conflict, beiing in direct contact with numerous jihadi groups which attacked SAA areas everytime israel attacked.Where was russia??the suppose alled nation of syria?
point 4. russia is now occupying part of the golan heights, to make sure that SAA and its allied hezbollah CANNOT take part of the ILLEGALocuupied territory, hence protecting israel..just like in the air raids.
point4.in the last summit and the days after, it should now be obvious to everybody whats happening….turkey clearly stated its intentions…I quote erdogan from the summit ” we will defend idlib from the brutal assad reigme, which has commited numerous massacres.we wont let that happen in idlib”
second quote from erdogan “we have told the russians that we will evacuate HTS jihadi militants from syria, and that idlib should be governed and safety provided by militants which are trained by turkey”
that were exact quotes from the summit.I´m not even going to talk and make a conversation about them…they speak for themselves….
so stop bs here….They ALL follow ORDERS…….
now they have achieved what they wanted for the final showdown I beiing in syria….meaning a nato member has now invaded north syria… turkey..it clearly states its objectives…occupation and the end of the assad regime………..in the east of syria u have the occupation of other nato members beiing france,usa and uk which have also clearly stated occupation will not end.and in the south occupation of a nato member, usa., which have not only stated that occupation will continue, but which have increased the size of this post including bringing in air defense weapons.
showdown II will foloow in lebanon foloowed by the final showdown with iran.
Agree with you, unless and until Russia or Iran engages Turkey they have betrayed Syria.
you understand what is happening but you have failed to understand why is happening not only from russia but all the players in this global game.
“Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown.” (Henry IV, Part II)
Not a fan of Turkey but their economy can not handle another wave of refugees. Sure they had it coming but they are in a desperate stuation and its better not to force a country in such conditions. Things may get ugly. I think Turkey needs time.
very rare commodity now days time………… and turkey play the dirtiest game in ME and not only and is pay back time so ……….. you make your bed you sleep in it.
No they don’t . What they need is exemplary punishment.
They can always slaughter their proxies as they run for cover. Of course this will not sit well with their western friends. Time to get off the fence, Erdo. But, as you say, they cannot afford more ‘refugees’, even if they are their pets.
The US has promised to stop crushing the Turkish economy, if Erdogan does this for them.
They will have promised that Turkey will be able to annexe those parts of Syria, and get American support.
They will double cross him, and kill him the first chance they get, but he’s not real smart.
And let’s admit more brutal truth here. Russia has a serious geography problem with regards to Syria. The Turks are right next door but Russia has no land border anywhere nearby and not even a land border with Turkey to the North. Access to Syria aerially is dependant on Russian aircraft flying either over Turkish or Iraqi airspace. The most efficient Naval route is through Turkish controlled water. The Turks have pole position here. For Russia to really get around this problem they would have to really be willing to fight and win at all cost including invading Georgia in order to pressure Turkey from the North. But even then fighting through Anatolia to reach SDF areas of Syria and fighting through them to get to the Euphrates? This would take a level of devotion to Syria’s cause that benefits Russia very little and to which the Russians have not shown to date. A better option? Make Turkey responsible for the conduct of their pet insurgents in Idlib. Bomb the stuffing out of them each time they drone attack, bomb, shell, mortar any area. Use the Father of all bombs, if need be. And keep common cause with Turkey to squeeze out the most dangerous enemy, the U.S. SDF alliance. Erdogan’s devotion to his Turkish aligned jihadists makes this the only practical way forward.
Good thinking. I like it.
To be honest, I doubt that Turkey could prevent Russia from transiting the Bosporus Straits, which would violate treaties. They might delay transit, but I seriously doubt that they could not neutralize Turkish assets rather quickly. The devotion to Syria you speak of is first and foremost devotion to Russia. Syria is the doorway to Iran and Iran is the doorway to Russia proper. Why is Russia there in the first place? Answer that and you answer why Syria will not be abandoned. One look at the military installations surrounding Iran and Russia and the importance of Syria becomes clear. It is the whole reason for 9/11, which enabled Afghan and Iraqi wars…surround Iran…then comes Russia, the true goal. Turkey only co-operates with Russia because Putin reduced Turkey to a failed economic state in short order and forced Erdo to come crawling. Turkey is reduced to a crying baby at these summits and resorts to items in the western press in desperation. Now he faces the fact that these terrorist will have only one place to run to. Russia has called Turkeys bluff and this operation will continue. For Turkey to turn on Russia would be a monumental mistake…but Erdo is capable of anything, including faking problems with the US/NATO. Also, I do not see the necessity of Russia mounting a huge land invasion any more than I see Turkey openly attacking Russian assets. If there were all-out war, Georgia would present no issue at all…Russia would roll right through it, NATO or no NATO. But all this pre-supposes a failure of Russian tactics, military and political. More rides on the insanity of the west and which way Erdo jumps. Putin has used Turkey to his advantage and it is up to Erdo (who put himself in this position) as to whether Turkey sinks or swims.
This is existential War for Russia too, after Syria is Iran, Russian might be further down the chopping block but they’re still on it. Their very existence is be what they have vested in this war.
Russia has a serious geography problem with regards to Syria. The Turks
are right next door but Russia has no land border anywhere nearby
Interesting, that yanks have no problem.
RT is reporting that the UK has finished filming its staged Syrian gas attack, and expects to get it to the media for tonight’s news.
The report added that the United States would specifically decide whether to strike Russian air defense installations….
Bring it on U.S. you will be Obliterated…Mo’ Bodybags….May Russia sink Your Mediterranean Fleet in Minutes….
“Syria, Russia and Iran should know that the United States and the rest of the world are watching very closely and will take appropriate action if there is a new slaughter in Idlib,”
Russia now has military technological superiority over the racist supremacist global Jewish confederate slave empire dictatorship and their USSA slaves. This gap will only grown in the future as Russia makes more of these missiles. Russia is number one in missile technology and missiles will be the weapon of the next war for the foreseeable future. The USSA is master of obsolete technology like air craft carriers, which have no chance against Russian advanced missiles. Russian missiles now have 5 plus times the range of USSA missiles. Russian ship based and land based missiles can destroy USSA targets while they are well outside the range of USSA weapons. It’s like Russia has tanks and guns and the USSA has swords and cavalry. The US can spend 3 trillion per year on their military and they will still not catch up as they are now too corrupt to build anything. The more $ they spend the more $ that will be stolen. As Russia makes more such missiles their military superiority will increase. This is why Russia is in no hurry for war as their military advantage grows each day as they make more hypersonic long range missiles, some like the one with the nuclear engine and the nuclear torpedo even have unlimited range. In any conventional war between Russia and the USSA most of the USSA navy, all its surface ships, over 90% would be destroyed in a matter of hours where ever they are on the planet. Only the USSA submarines would have any chance of survival against Russia’s new weapons.
.. The Day U.S. Military Supremacy Publicly Ended
By Donald W. Miller, Jr., MD September 3, 2018…’
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/09/donald-w-miller-jr-md/the-day-us-military-supremacy-publicly-ended/
‘…“Any use of nuclear weapons against Russia or its allies, weapons of short, medium or any range at all, will be considered as a nuclear attack on this country. Retaliation will be immediate, with all the attendant consequences. There should be no doubt about this whatsoever.” President Putin
… U.S. Response to Russia Possessing Hypersonic Weapons
On March 20 General John Hyten, Commander of the U.S. Strategic Command, reported to the U.S. Senate Committee on Armed Services: “We don’t have any defense that could deny the employment of such weapons against us…” He is referring here to hypersonic weapons.
Senator James Inhofe, the senior member of the Senate Armed Services Committee acknowledged: “Right now we’re helpless.”
General Hyten went on to say: “…so our response would be our deterrent force, which would be the triad and the nuclear capabilities that we have to respond to such a threat.”
(The nuclear “triad” is sea-based submarine launched ballistic missiles, land-based ICBMs, and air-borne nuclear-armed bombers.)
What if the next time the U.S. military fires Tomahawk missiles at targets in Syria, or Iran, Russia responds by not only shooting down the missiles but, as it has threatened to do, also destroys their source of origin. A Kinzhal hypersonic missile armed with a conventional weapon strikes and sinks the aircraft carrier from which the missile-carrying planes took off. Would America really respond to the sinking of one of its aircraft carriers by starting a first-strike nuclear war?
Aircraft carriers are sitting ducks. They are defenseless against hypersonic weapons. Attacking and sinking a U.S. carrier with a hypersonic missile anywhere on the planet gives Russia what analysts call escalation dominance, which the United States cannot counter in kind. There aren’t any Russian targets with an actual and symbolic value like a U.S. aircraft carrier with its 85 jet fighters and 3,000 crew members…
… Air Force General Robert Latiff, in his book Future War: Preparing for the New Global Battlefield, published in 2017 writes:
“War and technology have defined our history. Americans spend vast sums on weapons and aggressively export our weapons to others. We assume our technological superiority, an assumption that is increasingly challenged and that has potentially dangerous consequences if we think it will allow us to impose our will on others.… Make no mistake: the willful ignorance of the American public and its leaders will have dangerous consequences.”…
First Punch Knockout…the West has got no Warriors…their Arrogance is all they have..what was the Last War they’ve Won? I’m with the Russians… the Western Leaders are a bunch of Dangerous Traitors….the sooner they are removed from their Positions the Better
There is no west not for a long time. There is only the racist supremacist global Jewish confederate slave empire dictatorship. The empire is in the process of eliminating the entire populations of what used to be Western countries now only slaves of racist supremacist Jews.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/65272ba33698043a57e8677e4dfb9b290550d79a0d39a7be6eeff14a12a9f86e.jpg
80 million Zio-Christians Jumping, Singing & Clapping for IsraHell waiting for the Second Coming of Christ…. in the Form of a Mushroom Cloud… a Collective Mass Suicide….This Rabbi will be content…
# Me too Merijn :)
The UK has a brand new Symbolic Carrier John, the fact that it will not have any planes yet is of no matter.
It is still a symbol of the British Empty threats :)
No its a symbol of the rampant criminality and corruption of the ruling racist supremacist Jewish elite leading Britain to total ruin. In 30 years tops maybe much sooner London will be like Aleppo, Raqqa etc. totally destroyed.
That is very likely, I agree John.
The last war we won? Well gosh maybe World War II but the cost and losses were greater than the win. The War of 1812?
I do not think that the offensive to free Idlib will be as costly in human lives as the battles of Raqqah or Mosul have been.
I will add that it propably will be nothing compared to the genocide against the Armenians by the Turks and today the genocide in the Yemen carried out by KSA
The Turk headman is trying to buy time so his force can muster in the region.
just let them cross over erde. most of them are yours anyway.
talk to mutti merkle over a kebab she’ll move them into the eu.
what’s the problem?
Before Erdogan last friday headed to Iran for the meeting with his Russian and Iranian counterpart, Turkey received a threat from the terrorist in Idlib…if he abandoned them in Idlib, they would use the tunnels they digged under the Turkish border and create havoc in Turkey.
Chicken are coming home to roost.
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201809111067936085-militant-idlib-erdogan-warning/
The only people who are being, and will continue to be massacred are Jew world order regime change terrorists. The Syrian government coalition has no history of massacring civilians. The terrorists using human shields has been dealt with many times with minimal collateral damage before. It will be no different this time. If the Turks interfere militarily, there are options for dealing with that. Like taking away their air privileges. Which will make their redoubts considerably more difficult to protect.
If they don’t interfere, they’l be in a much stronger position to deal with the Kurdish Israel 2 forming on their southern border, which is a much greater threat than the 80,000 terrorists, herded into the Idlib kill box awaiting a slaughterhouse future if they don’t cooperate. Who are swimming in the blood of 500,000 innocent Syrian dead and millions of innocent injured and displaced Syrians.