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The first big city which recently became the capital of a new region of Russia will be abandoned by Russian forces. On November 9, the Russian military announced the withdrawal from Kherson.
Commander of the Russian military operation in Ukraine, Russian General Surovikin, reported to Defence Minister Shoigu a plan to withdraw Russian troops to new defensive lines along the Dnieper River. The Russian Defence Minister approved it. The transfer of Russian forces from the right bank of the river will be carried out in the near future.
The main statements declared by General Sergei Surovikin included:
The situation in the area of the special operation is generally stabilized, the combat capabilities of the joint forces have increased significantly, the combat strength has been increased at the expense of the mobilized servicemen, reserves have been created.
Russian troops have resumed offensive operations in certain areas. All attempts of offensive actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kupyansk and Krasnolimansk directions have been stopped.
There are street battles on the eastern outskirts of Artemovsk (Bakhmut). The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have resumed offensive operations, the enemy was defeated on the right bank of the Bakhmutka River in the Donetsk direction.
From August to October, the AFU lost more than 9.5 thousand people killed and wounded in the Kherson direction. In October, the Ukrainian army lost over 12,000 soldiers. The losses of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are 7-8 times less than those of the enemy.
Due to constant shelling, Kherson and adjacent settlements cannot be supplied and function, people’s lives are constantly in danger. The most appropriate option is to organize defense along the barrier line of the Dnieper River. The decision to take defensive positions on the left bank of the Dnieper River is not easy, at the same time, we will save the lives of our military and the combat capability of the units.
The maneuver will be carried out in the near future.
Shoigu agreed with these conclusions and suggestions. He ordered to withdraw troops from Kherson.
The withdrawal of Russian troops in the Kherson region is already the 3rd Russia’s major military defeat in Ukraine after the loss of the towns of Balakleya and Krasny Liman.
One of the reasons for the surrender was the inability of Russian forces to provide supplies and secure the logistics on the right bank of the Dnieper river. It means that Ukrainian forces managed to disable or seriously disrupt Russian communication lines through the water barrier. Russian troops had to defend a large area on the prolonged front lines. They continuously repelled Ukrainian attacks but the risk of being surrounded remained high.
The withdrawal to the left bank to the new lines of defence seems to be a difficult, tragic and controversial decision, but it was, apparently, dictated by a military necessity. A potential large-scale battle on the right bank of the Dnieper river would lead to heavy losses and, according to various estimates, could undermine the combat capability of the entire Russian Army. The defense of the city of Kherson was possible, but would have been accompanied by heavy losses among the civilian population and Russian combat-ready military units.
The withdrawal of Russian troops will undermine the security of several strategically important civilian facilities, including the Kakhovskaya hydro power plant, the Antonovsky bridge, North-Crimean water channel which was re-opened after years of the water blockade of the peninsula. So far, a lot of civilians have been evacuated from the dangerous area to the left bank of the river. Since November 9, people could leave the city by their own means.
The decision of the Russian military entails dangerous military threats for the Russian side. According to open sources, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine holds at least eight brigades in the Kherson direction, which have recently lost some of their offensive potential, but are still combat-ready. They include the 28th, 60th, 61st mechanized brigades, 59th motorized infantry and 35th marine brigades, 46th airmobile, 128th mountain assault and 17th tank brigades, as well as at least three brigades of the so-called territorial defence. Since the Russian military lost the possibility to launch offensive operations in the region in the nearest future, most of these Ukrainian units will be transfered to the front lines in other war-torn regions.
It is expected that another area of the Ukrainian offensive could be the Zaporozhie region where the AFU may attempt to advance towards Mariupol in order to cut the entire Russian grouping in Ukraine, as well as to cut the road from the mainland Russia to Crimea.
Russian withdrawal from Kherson is also a heavy informational blow to Moscow. The West and Kiev declare the Russian retreat is an unconditional victory of Ukrainian forces. As a result of a successful Western media campaign, Russia’s today’s decision will significantly increase the flow of Western weapons to the war-torn country after they allegedly proved their effectiveness on the battlefield and the policies of the Kiev’s partners led to important military and political results.
“It is encouraging to see how the brave Ukrainian forces are able to liberate more Ukrainian territory.” Stoltenberg claimed
Adviser to the head of the presidential administration of Ukraine, Mikhail Podolyak, has also claimed that the “liberation” of Kherson or another important city by Ukrainians would not be a starting point for negotiations with Moscow.
“…Kherson is not the point after which the negotiation process will be really possible. It is nonsense to talk about a serious negotiation process after the liberation of Kherson, after the liberation of Lugansk and the like. No. President Zelensky clearly means: they left the territory of Ukraine – after that, of course, a negotiation process is possible,” Podolyak said in an interview with Present Time.
If the surrender of Kherson was another Russia’s gesture of goodwill and an attempt to start peace negotiations, then it immediately failed.
The Russian military is yet to begin the withdrawal from the right bank of the Dnieper River in the Kherson region. According to various reports from the area, Russian forces have recently reinforced their defences on the Kherson front lines. In their turn, the Ukrainian military officials have also declared that there is still no sign of the upcoming Russian retreat. The Kiev regime reacts cautiously, being afraid to fall into Russian information trap. There are also doubts that the Russian military command would openly declare its plans in the war-torn region which would provide the Ukrainian side with time necessary to inflict more damage to the retreating forces.
It is a trap. Since Ukros lost 7-8 more soldiers I don’t see any reason to change this situation expect that it is a trap for Ukr troops. finally we are winning. Russia!
Typical Russian general: bald, incompetent, fat and corrupt. On topwar Russian site people are angry and they ask for Shoigu’s and Surovikin head.
Kherson was a new Russian city in the Russian constitution just a month ago!
Congratulations, Carloo.
It’s a mess, not an operation. Very disappointed.
Typical NAFO, projecting as usual.
@Carlo
I agree with what you wrote. Anyway, in a certain way it indeed might be clever of the russians to now pull back from Kherson, as they know the ukrainian army is already at its gates (and ready to kick ass), and people of Kherson hate russians and do not want to be part of the Russian Federation. Same goes for Zaporizha region.
And the more the russians draw themselves back, the longer the resupply ways and distances become for the Ukrainians. So that in the end Russia decides when and were the fight will take place.
And the moment the Ukrainians are overstreched and thin in personal, the russians will attack and overrun the then thin-manned ukrainian frontlines. I guess such is the plan of the russians. Therefore I do not call the withdraw from Kherson a stupid move. The Ukrainians on the other hand need to be carefull and beware of mines and booby-traps inside the city, and, as soon as Kherson is retaken, need to immediately fortify the town and bring enough food and water in to withstand long encirclement, sieges and cauldron situations. Another thing which can t be said often enough is to build tunnels beneath towns and villages, so that even if a city or a village temporarily falls into the hand of the enemy and rat army troopers have the place, you can still sneak in and out without being noticed. And can bring supplies and goods in or out.
I guess the main thing for the future is to have enough manpower at hand. With the russians having mobilized up to 300.000 – of which about 1/3 is likely just replacement for fallen and wounded rat troopers killed and maimed in Ukraine – Ukraine too needs to ramp up the numbers of ukrainian troops, in order to keep the advance going and withstand possible russian counter-offensives.
If, with help of USA and Europe, Ukraine can raise about 180.000 additional troops (can be foreigners, USA, Canada, Brits, Albanians, Poles, Finns, Turks, Azerbaidschanis (Azeris), Romanians, Croatians etc.) then I think most of the russian offensives to come, will fail and Ukraine will be able to progress further and restore more land and kick the russians back to the russian borders. The only real danger is that in the long-term, the USA and EU-economy may implode and thus the military support might cease. So by that moment Ukraine needs to stand on its own feet and build enough weapons to keep the orcs away. And if that’s not possible, then merciless guerilla warfare is the way to go for Ukraine in order to grind down the invaders and bleed and burn them out, down to the raw flesh.
btex
The withdrawal from Kharkov also seemed like a trap …
It is a trap, but where it’s begun?
My first thought ‘when you are at your strongest, appear weak. When you are at our weakest, appear strong’. Russia knows what they are doing and there is always a very strong reason behind it all. Meanwhile, where are they storing all the new ammunition, from the US, UK and EU, that they will use, trying to hit the NPP? Fireworks no doubt will soon be coming back to Ukraine, just not how they wanted.
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7-9 times more, mate.
I’m not entirely sure. It could be. Also could not be the Russians are in a difficult space. If they stay and the floodgates fail or get destroyed, they will be without lines of supplies and support. This will result in unnecessary deaths. The Ukrianians have a large numerical advantage. Pulling back across the river allows the number to be useless as it will force the enemy into a choke point to cross. Vise versa the Russians will have a hard time crossing ad well if the abandon the city. If the city is abandoned though, and the Eiver freezes solid, the Russians will have the advantage then as the number will be in their favour enabling a full assault in this direction. Either way, it could be one or both of these options.
The UAF will simply go up river to the crossing just 22km north and then push south. It is said Russia withdrew 30k men and 3500 AFV across the bridge in a matter of several days. You can go both ways on that bridge. Kherson was high ground they moved to low ground on a flood plane and started to dig forts along Crimea border. Its also known that some frozen assets were released and sanctions on bank transactions lifted until May next year. I guess that could be unrelated? Kherson was given away. Traded.
Watch the videos of UAF troops driving to the city in day light columns of M113 thirty long, they are no more than 11km from Russian forces yet they are not fired on? Why? They are on a highway that would be pre sited … in full view. The whole front would have been no more than 20km to defend the city and they would have had the far bank to fire from. It was a farse from the get go and it remains one today a play for the elites to jockey for position nothing more.
the usual arrogant cheerleading. super powerful russian weapons in action in ukraine.
We are winnong what? Dumby!
Arrf have you a brain and ears??
Stop to tell Bullshit.
Im 100% pro russia and I can tell you than one again its a disasyer. They could not take kiev and Kharkov. They lost the super strategic yzioum in few days and it took weeks for them to take it. They loose now Kherson. But you are blind or totally stupid. Putin should kill his generals for their disaster campaign.
@Tibo
No, in fact everything is running exactly according to plan. The two jewish puppets Zelensky and Putin succeeded in bringing hundred-thousands of white christian men and even women up against each other and both sides are murdering each other big time, with no end in sight. All this while shiploads of shekels are coming from that bloodshed into the jewish pockets, resp. the pockets of the global world jewry who sells weapons to both sides and empties the pockets of the europeans, the usa and the russians to the very bottom. That’s a perfect situation (for the jews), and the hook-nosed rulers of the world will, of course, keep this going, and expand and escalate this World War 1 tit for tat trench-war and the suffering and bloodshed as long as possible and with as much as possible russian and ukrainian casualties. That’s the facts, but most brainwashed sheeple in Europe as well as in Russia and around the world can t see this obvious truth.
Here, just listen to what Michael Jackson said about the jews. And since we both know Zelensky is jewish, and all the russian oligarchs including jewdy Jewtin is so too, we should come to our senses and start fighting the real enemy now. And that is the jews. It’s not the eskimos, it is also not the Spainiards or the French, no, it’s the jews, that’s the parasites name, ok ? It’s not the russian or the american people, it’s not the polish or the german people, no it is jews. Jews who claim to be the Ru, UK, Australian, USA, French, Italian, Ukrainian, Austrian, Switzerland or whatever government. These imposters are just claiming to be “our government” when in fact they are our all enemy. Here, sit down first and then listen closely to what Michael Jackson tells us (before he was killed):
https://www.bitchute.com/video/pyDX9uIfgga0/
A campaign that is so bad that they have picked up 20% of Ukraine. The section where the natural resources are in good supply, come to that.
@alehandrov
It was just a tactical decision, because forces too weak at that position, and jewdy Jewtin likely evalued Lugansk and Donetsk areas higher than Kherson and Zaporizha areas, because he knows very well that in Kherson and Zaporizha the population is mostly hostile against the russian invaders. So the retreat in Kherson was a tactical one, same as the Ukrainians did from Severodonetsk.
If defending a place is complicated and will foreseeable result in overdimensional losses, then better go back and withdraw to a position which you can defend easily, and regroup there and maybe go on the offensive again some time later. Difference is of course that Severodonetsk is not so prestige-laden and big as Kherson, so the face-loss the russians sustaining by withdrawing from Kherson, especially after full-mouthly declaring Kherson area to be annexed and now part of Russian Federation and doing fake referendum there in order to fool the world about the true sentiment of the people there, just weeks ago, is of course gigantic. And it can indeed be viewed as a large and ignominous defeat, and a very painfull blow, which the ukrainian army by this has dealt to the russian invader hordes.
No, it isn’t. It’s simply avoiding fighting over a city full of civilians. Utterly unnecessary casualties. Get over it, the Russian military acts according to reason, not armchair general ego.
Your analysis is fatally wrong.
Complete and utter disaster for Russia.
I hope the Russians understand what regime change is and how it’s done. Retreating after people voted to be part of Donbass and Russia does not make sense. I wonder if this is actually true.
Putin’s reforms disabled the Russian army, it isn’t capable of offensive actions.
Sure seems like blowing up bridges works. Yet the Kremlin refuses to blow up bridges. They say it can not be done and it wouldn’t make any difference.
They should have hit every railway track and airport in Ukraine,those Nato weapons should never have arrived in the area.
Such a pretty picture, that is all Shoigu’s army can manage.
Ukrainians are ready to sacrifice anything to win meanwhile Russia just retreats as soon as things heat up – Therefore Russia cannot win with this stance.
If this practice persists the leadership might evacuate Kremlin and move to Siberia thus using the Ural Mountains as a natural barrier lol.
OR MAYYYBE this really is a ruse and they just want to bait Ukronazis into a reckless attack, but considering Ukrainian forces are 100% commanded and controlled by a NATO command, which is able to use satellites to monitor Russian military movements, I am not sure how effective such a ruse would be.
Russians are stepping back to a more aggressive move in the next few weeks once the soil/grounds are frozen and the reservists are ready to go ahead with new equipments. In the meantime, they will welcome the new AFU in their new cemetery city. Let the Nazis enjoy their last pseudo conquest.
Yes, it’ always like this. Russia is a joke
So we won. And then why are we retreating?
So how much territory did your shitty synthetic country lose since 2014? How many dead service personnel? So you could join the club of third-world nations completely indebted to the US/UK banks. Great success, Ukrotard.
How many of those “Ukraine forces” are actually foreign mercenaries, and troops from other countries (wearing AFU uniforms)? I’ve been hearing that the Polish have thousands of volunteers from their military fighting in Ukraine. Given the way the “AFU” is organized, they are clearly receiving instruction from the Pentagon in Washington D.C. Without U.S. intelligence and surveillance feeding the Ukraine military live data, the war would be over already. That, and the billions of dollars. The corrupt U.S. congress has already forked over more money, than Russia’s entire year worth of military spending (we’re talking well past $60 billion USD now at this point has gone to Ukraine!).
This retreat would devastate the Russian grouping in Kherson. The Ukraininas would mercilessly shell the Dniepr river crossing and attack all pontoon bridges. I can’t see how they will retreat…
Thats what is strange,why would they announce it? they made that mistake with the pull out from Kiev and were ambushed on the way out.
Political objectives of SMO has almost been achieved. Pulling out from Kherson city makes sense. Particularly when this is a Donbass War.
U.S. and Nato certainly want Russian forces occupying and fighting all over Ukraine, not what Russia wants or needs to do.
How many men were lost taking Mariupol ?
How many will be lost trying to retake this city at a later date ?
How is it that the Ukrainians can get resupplied under superior artillary from Russia, missile strikes, drone strikes and Russian airforce
Yet Russian supplies can’t evade Ukrainian Artillary .. !!
Cities are natural fortifications and I think this decision is a serious misjudgement
I doubt you know better than the top brass.
I’m not saying I do but I know I’d prefer to defend a built up area even with limited supplies than open land on a far side of a river which will need to be crossed again and then the city has to be fought for house to house.
If you’d ever witnessed urban conflict you would know exactly what I mean
The trouble was/is the Kyiv-Nato Axis are terrorists, they know they can’t win militarily but could have done damage by destroying the dam near Kherson with a dirty bomb that would have potentially caused a environmental disaster and cut off a significant Russian force from withdrawal and civilians from evacuation.
This proves russia lies when it says it going to defend russia even with nuclear weapons. But could be a necessary step to surrender in ukraine and terminate the war. No need to keep killing and have kill people when they are not ready to defend what they have. Admit russia lost is first step to terminate this war. I don’t think ukraine president will let russia run free, so they could take even Moscow, lol. Why not?
Thanks for the CIA daily blast. Kudos to the engineers who got electricity back for you dipshits. You’re clearly making the most of it on SF. Still can’t cope with anybody who doesn’t parrot Ukrotardish CIA talking points.
losing in Ukraine just isn’t an option for Russia,otherwise Ukraine really would become a Nato state and there would be a huge massacre and millions of refugees in Donbass and Ukraine would be a constant threat to Russia.
Now, that we can see how coward the leaders of russia act, always menacing with nuclear weapons but lacking guts to use it, it is time to attack on the ground. It is time to deploy nato forces and take back what belong to free people, all ukraine and beyond.
You have been weighed, you have been measured and you have been found wanting.
And that’s why you couldn’t take Donbas during the failed ethnic cleansing operation, and that’s why, after eight years of NATO welfare, you still gave up almost a quarter of the country to the Russians. Because you can’t be weighed, nor measured, as there is nothing there. Fascist wet-dreams and Monopoly money weapons programs. Never stop derping, Ukrotard.
Russia lost this war the moment they told there people that this is a limited military operation making them feel like there is nothing at stake but the people in Donbas for whom the people in moskow and other places care much less then the fact that they miss out on star bucks and mc donalds.
While ukraine made this a existential war for their people telling them we win or we die there is nothing else. So the ukrainians are motivated and support their military and the russians just wait that this little military operation is over. Beeing as much invested as the us citisens in the war in afghanistan.
Then russia faild to make the chinese understand that they are next. If russia looses the next government in moskow will support us sanctions against china to starve them of energy and foce them to surrender without a fight. China thinks this does not bother them they do not care at all like some aliens watching the primitiv westerners and russians fight eacht others in their petty wars while they are untouchable. They made this mistake once. Seems they are about to repeat it.
Saker like many other russian supporters told us that a victory in the propaganda war is meaningsless.
Well we now see it is not.
As I said it countless times (and often my comments went deleted) the entire special military operation was doomed since begining. It was a bad idea, put in practice in an even worse manner. Ukraine is no Irak, Libia or Afganisthan, is a nascent nation, whose identity is basically forged in this modern era war. Secondly, Ukraine was a regional military power, with own military industry. Even without NATO support, their army was still strong and capable, battle tested in Donbass war since 2014. Ukrainians endure high military casualties with stoicism and fight with desperation and courage for every meter of their land, while weapons, mercenaries and inteligence flows to them from all corners of the western world. On the other hand, Russians completely lack strategy, made countless blunders, while soldiers on the ground have massive morale issues – whenever things go a bit though, they retreat, giving up whatever they managed to gain previously at high human and material cost. Surovikin probably knows all of this as well as the fact that the conventional war is already lost and tries to minimise Russian military losses, which are already closing on around 20-25 000 dead. The number might be smaller compared to the Ukrainian side, but its no consolation. If Kherson falls, the days of Putin in Kremlin are numbered, if not the liberals than Russian nationalists will surely depose him. He might have done some good things in his earlier presidential terms, but with this war he ruined Russia. And nobody will forgive him for that.
Twaddle, Kyiv highly likely won’t last the winter out and the state of the economies of the U.S. and Europe is reaching crisis point.
Next, the Russians will say they need to evacuate from Mariupol to save the lives of their servicemen…Then a massive retreat from Crimea to save the lives blah blah blah…Please stop complaining about NATO expansion when you clearly do not have the will or means to stop them.
This is 100% strategy….it removes the Russian army from vulnerable situation, being that if the US led Ukro-Nazis manage to blow up that dam, it wouldn’t be good.
As soon as the ground freezes, Russia will not only regain any lost territory, it will be lights out for Ukraine as a state.
@Z for Victory
Yes, Z = Zombie Ideology, Celebral Disfunctioning Zoo troopers and Apes from the East getting killed on masses, trying to lick the ass of their highest communist Rat Army commander in chief (resp. highest Rat-chief in command, the washing-machine prime stealing-thief in command, Pootin and his red penis jerks )…all the way to Transnistria!
Its quite obvious what is afoot, Russia has indicated a dam may be blown.
Civilians have been moved, now troops.
Winter is here, Odessa is dragging the fight down south, what do you reckon is up?
Two possibilities in my mind.
A. Backdoor Negotiations to a peace settlement with the west and/or Kiev. In this case, I worry as making a deal with the devils is not a good long term idea; plus how many other times have they backed out of good faith type negotiations to screw over the other side. It is not a regime that can be trusted in my opinion.
B. Shift in Strategy. The previous strategy entailed cutting off supplies from the west, which means A, taking the region just west of Odessa to cut of the southwest corridor. This in combination to cutting of the northwest corridor (NW border that sits between Transnistria and Belarus). This may now be deemed to big of a bite to chew off. So it is a shift in strategy to a somewhat less ambitious option. If you look at the military summary podcast of a few days ago, one such possibility is discussed there.
You can’t take Odessa without Kherson and Nikolaev. Forget the Normandy landings style! There were millions of soldiers there and there was no any Satellites and spy drones. The truth is RArmy had to do it in February. They had to take Odessa first and the entire western border from Belarus to Moldova. It didn’t take a genius to figure it out.
If it is a shift in strategy it had better be a very good one. Even if it weren’t onwards toward Odessa anytime soon, the grinding down of Ukrops on the right bank was doing a lot of good. It is a war of attrition and much progress in wearing down the Ukrops has been done over the months. So much so in fact that Ukrops had to rely on large quantities of hired foreign mercs to do what the worn down AFU would simply have been unable to do. I think they should have stayed the course on this one, as all the supplies can be flown in.
@Build a Snowman
It’s jews in command, commanding and ordering christian men and women on both sides to kill each other. It’s that simple !
I further think ‘destroying Russia’ is not the intention, as it is already destroyed since 1917 (when jews took over the whole country). The current aim is to bleed both sides dry, like pre-planned in Albert Pikes description of the 3rd World War (read. Three World Wars by Albert Pike). And let them and all world fight to the point of total physical, financial and mental exhaution, and then establish open One world government (which in fact is NWO resp. Jewish World Government and Rule).
it does follow that someone gullible enough to believe vague prophecies would also fall for a hoax conspiracy theory that describes the current century about as clearly as it describes every century, therefore is useless
From my military academy perspective you’re right 100%. You earned a virtual medal for today.
FALSA RETIRADA OBVIO SEGURO EL CONTRAATAQUE RUSO LLEGA HASTA LA CONQUISTA DE ODESSA EN EL INVIERNO SEPTENTRIONAL !
CON LA TOMA DE DINIPRO SE ASEGURA EL DONBASS Y ODESSA SOLO FALTA QUE RUSIA USE MAS TROPAS Y DEJE DE JUGAR AL GATO RUSO CON EL RATONCITO UCRANIANO
Esse portal de notícias russo não pode falar a verdade, por que estão debaixo de censura.
Sabemos que a Rússia está derrotada na Ucrânia, está semana morreram 300 soldados e mais 700, ao total 1000 soldados russos mortos em uma semana.
Chegar de contar mentiras, o exército russo é uma vergonha.
When America does this it’s called a “strategic redeployment”
Back off just to get momentum! Not an inch less! Remove the population to suffer the scourge imposed by the Nazis, and then run them over. Then bring them back to your land.
Remove the population so they don’t suffer the scourge of the Nazis!
It’s amazing, people can not see by no way where is the real war.