War Between NATO And Russia Is Inevitable

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The Russian military continues to apply the tactics of small boilers in eastern Ukraine. As a result, the encircled Ukrainian military are suffering huge losses in military equipment and manpower.

The success of Russian tactics is confirmed by the actions and statements of the Ukrainian leadership.

The head of the pro-presidential faction “Servant of the People” in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, David Arahamiya, confirmed that Ukraine is losing up to 1,000 servicemen a day in the Donbas, of which 200 to 500 are killed. Losses have increased significantly over the past two weeks. According to his statements, Ukraine has drafted about a million people into the army and has the opportunity to recruit two million more, which makes it possible to compensate for the growing losses.

However, without increased Western assistance, the Kiev regime is not able to repel Russian forces. The growing role of the United States, the UK and the EU in the war in Ukraine increases the risks of a global conflict.

For the first time since the start of the Russian military operation, the President of France, the Chancellor of Germany and the Prime Minister of Italy came to Ukraine. Emmanuel Macron, Olaf Scholz and Mario Draghi will meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky a day before the European Commission provides conclusions on the prospect of Ukraine’s membership in the EU. The leaders plan to discuss the issues of mine clearance of ports and unblocking grain corridors.

At the same time, it is reported that France plans to supply Ukraine with six additional 155-mm CAESAR self-propelled howitzers.

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said that the Alliance is preparing a plan to transfer the Ukrainian army from post-Soviet weapons to weapons of NATO standards.

He also announced the allocation of new military aid package to Kiev. According to him, the transfer of long-range artillery and heavy weapons to Ukraine will be announced on the evening of June 15.

Former commander of NATO forces in Europe Wesley Clark claimed that Ukraine will lose the war without direct intervention of the Alliance. He assured that if NATO does not intervene in the war, the Alliance should be dissolved for uselessness.

According to the retired US general, the alliance should either “go beyond the outlined framework, or cease its activities.”

The Kiev military is already making plans for attacks with foreign weapons that have not yet been received.

Ukrainian General Marchenko said that after receiving Western assistance, the Crimean Bridge will become the number 1 target for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Thus, the military command of Kiev’s forces confirms that any promises not to strike at Russian territory with the help of American systems are just empty words.

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States bare-assed tattered eagle with dementia

There will be no war. THE UNITED States DOES NOT HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS. If you look at the data, then after the collapse of the USSR, the cameras did not buy nuclear fuel for over 12 years, and all the stations worked. They believed in the “end of history” sawed warheads. This is confirmed by the near bankruptcy of Lockheed Martin (they were watching the nuclear minutemen) and also by the fact that the new warheads will be assembled from the old ones, in fact the spare parts were not assembled on the shelf, and therefore it is clear why they are ready to assemble new charges from old spare parts now. And if they had nuclear weapons, they would have already clattered, and in front of us they boasted of their 120 million army, which is against a nuclear explosion like matches. Therefore, there will be no war, their economies will not stand it. No one thinks that chemical production and steel from Ukraine went to the west, and now all the industrial zones are broken and they will not receive any raw materials. It just doesn’t exist. And we supply ourselves, so the conclusions come by themselves

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Trimalchio

Come on. Of course the U.S. has nuclear weapons. They have 6,000 of them with additional decommissioned warheads buried in the bunkers of eastern Oregon. Granted, most of the yields on U.S. nukes are 450 Kt or less–not the 1 Mt or higher yields of the Russian army.

The U.S.’s problem is the monolithic corporate media that has consistently pushed for war since Russia invaded and has continued suppressing actual news from the Ukrainian front in favor of Ukrainian propaganda. Unfortunately, this simply enables the elites in the Acela corridor to continue to believe that the U.S. can somehow enter this war without it going Nuclear (which it can’t), and further enable the neo-con crowd (Jonah Goldberg/William Kristol) to think that they can even “win” a Nuclear war (no one wins, ever). It’s utter horse crap. If the U.S. had an actual “4th estate” media and didn’t have Google/FB/Twitter/et al censoring everything that contradicts continued U.S. engagement in the war, Congress would have never sent them an additional $40 billion in weapons (that the U.S. can’t afford) and the Ukrainians would have sued for peace already.

Budweiser

Says the Commie whose National Guard is still issued 1960’s model Dragunovs. South Park gulag propaganda warsite delusion as always. No more Olympics, World Cup Soccer, International Chess, or McDonalds hamburgers ever again for Leninville. Good Job Puttin!

squeeth

Corp-0-rat media and state broadcasters don’t lead politicians, they follow.

Elohim Kosher Bar

In case anyone is interested why Lithuania is being used to incite Russia.

>>>https://www.rt.com/news/465975-lithuania-closed-synagogue-threats/

JayLindberg

All this talk about 1000s of nuclear weapons is really a very expensive bad joke. There is enough radioactive material in one cooling pond at one nuclear power facility to trigger a global radioactive coffin event. (OVER A BILLION CURRIES) There is also over 50 tons of fissionable material in each cooling pond.

Targeting just one nuclear power complex with one nuclear weapon triggers a planetary radioactive coffin event.

My point is that it only takes one.

Strelkov

Who cares, we are all going extinct under any circumstance just from lack of reproduction. Might as well just do it and get it over with.

Erie Breeze

Ignorant fearmonging. Nucelar war would be horrific but not fatal to the human race. Even if every atomic weapon on earth were detonated there would be large pockets of survivors, mostly in the southern hemisphere but also in the Kush, Altai, Alps and Rocky mountains. The earth would clense itself of the radioactivity as it does with volcanic eruptions. In 1000 years there would be no trace of the war and a virbrant human community of probably several billion. The idea that ants can destroy the planet with one of their little tools is nothing but propaganda.

8483/8404

You are a voice in the dark. The destruction of the US has always been the goal and it’s citizens have reached the “stupid and cowardly” level to agree to be murdered.

Justin

hate to bust everyone’s bubble. The USA nor NATO will enter this war because Biden does not have the nuclear football (codes to launch a nuclear attack). You see the US military intelligence knows that Biden is compromised and had foreign assistance to win his election. Hence the reason why in a recent congressional session a Rep stated he was the President but did not answer if he was the Duly Elected.
There is something bigger going on than most realise. Even Trump questioned NATO’s existence. They tried hard to stop Trump from meeting Putin. Something bigger than Nation vs Nation is occurring. What Putin said about the New World Order and Soros was also reiterated by Trump. Ukraine has been a criminal playground for Western politicians to launder money that is donated to them back to themselves. Lots of criminal activity ranging from drugs trafficking, arms trafficking and human trafficking. It is likely Germany was funding Ukraine’s neo nazi uprising as a proxy force for Europe with its eyes on Russia and its oil rich Caucus region. It has always been their dream to break up Russia. This is why u had Snowden (a bad guy who transferred from the CIA to the NSA) leak the info and the tools that the NSA was spying on its own Allies (Germany). This was true because Germany was acting like a true enemy. The CIA is as bad as they come and Snowden was no hero. It is well known there is an intelligence war taking place between the Govt intel agencies and the military intel agency with the NSA mostly being headed by Military people. So the NSA was watching everything and everyone as the plan has been to end the USA and transfer power, tech and finance to China. Snowden leaked the spy tech and info and escaped to where? China! Then where did he go? Russia. Snowden was working for the bad CIA to screw the NSA who were onto them. This is real! The real war is not nation vs nation although it seems that way on the surface. its mostly globalists (who control govt intel agencies) and nationalists (who mainly have patriotic military agencies).
This is the real war and every nation on earth is combating it. Power, corruption, new laws passed to grant more power whilst cheating in elections. This versus patriotic military intel! This is why in history you will see military takeovers of some nations. Because the military knows whats going on. the problem is that it causes revolution as globalists own the media.

Russia is good! USA under Trump is good. China is not good!
Understand the real war. North Korea is one example. You thought the CIA controlled ISIS and Al-Quieda only? In fact they control nations! North Korea was one of them. How do you start a nuclear war? How do you push fear? How do you enact more tyrannical laws? Own the enemy! Sew fear! Push new legislation, Mass surveillance!

North Korea was one accomplishment. Ukraine will be another.
This is the real war. The military intelligence fights for the people whilst the govt intelligence agencies fight for globalists!

Michael Droy

Translation note to editor – Small Boilers means nothing in English.
Kotel straight from Russian is probably better understood.
Cauldron is a common translation

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John McGrew

Uhhhh, some of us dumb anglo-saxons are smart enough to figure out what he meant. O wait a sec, I’m Scots Irish and German, maybe that explains it lol

Donnchadh

Less on the Scots John not all Scots are red haired -pale skin-kilt wearing and greet people with “see you Jimmy ” but the “Glasgow Kiss ” does exist.

Антон

Scotts are brave warriors. There were many foreign officers in the Russian Navy, including british ones, when it arrived from Baltic to Afro-American sea (it’s Black) to fight against Turkey. One officer was a scottish, another one was an english. English guy broke the order of admiral Orlov and turned the rearguard under his command out of battle. Sctottish officer did his job as supposed, i.e. very well. Battle of Chesma, 1770. Famous poet Lermontov was partly scottish. I like Scotland.

Антон

Don’t dig a lot or you’ll find a russian ancestor and become Putinversteher, german word for “Putin’s agent”.

Jay

If the Ukros are losing up to 1,000 servicemen a day, the Ukraine war will be over in few months, as there will be no more operatives left to hold the Russians – except if NATO jumps in with fresh manpower, but this would be WW3, a truly suicidal mission as Russia has hypersonic nukes that no NATO country can stop and let alone destroy. It’s game over even before it starts.

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Trimalchio

I don’t think anyone has any real idea if the Ukrainians are really losing 1,000 troops a day. That’s a lot. ALOT. I think it would be hard to mask that kind of attrition, but maybe they can, who knows?

Not to take a “realist” view of the matter, but I think it’s a foregone conclusion that the Russians are going to win. With that said, the best thing that can happen is for it to end as quickly as possible. It’s in everyone’s best interests…because the sanctions could then be lifted and global trade can be restored.

VirgoAtheist

The moment NATO jumps in, China will be operating with the Russian military, along with Iran, North Korea, Syria, the CSTO and SCO… NATO should think long and hard about this one because half of NATO will sit this out, including Hungary, Czech Republic, Türkiye (second largest military in NATO), and would leave 4 basic armies involved: US, France, UK (if you can call that an army) and Germany.

Japan will get nuked (AGAIN) if it butts in, and South Korea will stay out as well or will meet the same fate… Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Belgium, Lithuania, Estonia, Greece, Bulgaria… Get serious. Poland and Romania will get nuked IMMEDIATELY! Sweden, Norway and Finland will wish they were closer to Iceland.

All the other NATO/EU countries will be wiped off the map in short order, if they dare to fight at all. Most of us won’t live through this war if that comes to fruition, and it is all due to Anglo arrogance and their inability to share the planet with others.

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Kundrit

What would NATO respond if Russia hit Ukraine (a much bigger land than the whole of Germany) not with a tactical medium Nuke, but with Sarmat Nuke? that caused wide and supper damage and cause a very-very vast land fried and dead useless land. Yes, it is not worth it for the size of a country, but it gave an example of any US-NATO jump-in for Nuke exchanges??

East Indian

If Russia wants to fry a large area to show off its might, why should it nuke a Slav land? It can do it somewhere inside NATO.

Critical thinking sheeple

Wind blows west DURA

TopGum

Will never happen, not worth the discussion. A petty looser like Ukraine is not a candidate for a nuke. They are all reserved for the ones that are responsible for that whole mess. Russia has stated their red lines for many times now. The west is very well aware of what is coming.

Boggs

Russia would get Swiss-cheesed along with all the countries you mentioned getting nuked. You conveniently forgot to mention this fact in your little story.

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TopGum

Your assessment is good. I think no-one will do anything. They will say lets do it but then nothing will happen. They already depleted their ammo and their military gear. There will be nothing seriously to fight with. Only possibility to actually “do” something will be using nukes. But that will extinct most life inside the borders of EU/NATO in about one hour. After that US will be annihilated as the power behind all this mess. Russia cannot have those psychos running free. Everyone else will wait it out and congratulate Russia on their victory. Why? Simply because I don’t believe NATO’s nukes are a real challenge for Russia’s AD. That is what S-400 was made for. S-500 is for hyper-sonic weapons. NATO/US don’t have those. I also don’t think US has some retaliation-scenario. Only Russia has one. Why? Because US never thought they would be really challenged like that. They also don’t have any serious AD. They are all sitting ducks. They could not even intercept their own ICBMs.

MarkU

Realistically about half of those casualties will likely return to the battlefield.

thoughtful

25% foreign forces already

Matej

1000 lost in a day? I doubt that, imagine that you have to arm, train and transport 1000 new soilders per day. I thing this numbers are exagerated.

Mario Ceva

500 to 800 per day.

Thomas Turk

Brit Intel passing you the numbers? What if it’s MORE? .. numb comment.

ludmilla

Of course they are exaggerated. Maybe 40-90 per day is realistic. Plus double amount of severely wounded.

TopGum

You base that on what? Your own opinion? What a joke.

Антон

So it won’t start. Washington can push Poland and Romania to war + mighty baltic tigers (Tallin, Riga, Vinus), that’s all.

TopGum

Russia stated it will disable the decision making centers, regardless where they are. If Poland gets the go, pentagon will be dust and rubble. This is a “red line”. Everyone knows by now, those a real and have serious consequences.

TopGum

Hence the desperation of all those political turds going to Kiev to talk to that little dictator of Ukraine. They simply can’t take any sanctions anymore and they beg for some sort of a negotiation. This whole mess is slowly killing Ukraine as-well the whole EU. They all are highly indebted and have a problem with inflation which will surely kill their economies and the financial market that is already tanking fast. Pure desperation. All they did backfired at them at an epic proportion. That how inapt they are. Russia was prepared. EU thought this was a easy win. All they had to do was to look at Trumps idiotic trade war with China. He lost there too big time. What a bunch of losers.

jens holm

Bullshit article. NATO knows that they will lose a full war against Russia. And it would go nuclear. This war will end on the negation table where Russia will set 80% of the rules.

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Josephstalin

I don’t see the end of this war.
It seems that Russians are interested to not finish soon and Americans either. From different reasons.

VirgoAtheist

If it keeps escalating, no one will see the end of this war…

Thomas Turk

Wot. you’re just a day off your 101st birthday?

paco

Sooner or later this war will end up with some frozen contact line like between the two coreas. There will be no negations in the next 10 years…

Thomas Turk

Too much Carlsberg in Koppen-Hagen made you change sides. eh? Your Ukie heroes were immortaal up to now.

Edgar Zetar

I told this in a comment one month ago. USA strategy on Ukraine was that EU UK and allied western countries give to Ukraine the Soviet Hardware they have in their inventories… then Allies would need new weapons and USA MIC (Military Industrial Complex or Corporations) would be the provider and the profiter from Ukraine War…. also Germany would manufacture new tanks to EU (on a lower standards than USA UK tanks of course)… Everybody wins except poor Ukrainians. Clown Zelensky is a bitch!

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peter bos

Yes big question when are the Ukrainian Neanderthals going to wake up to the new reality?

Edgar Zetar

They cannot and could not do anything I was studying the way UK USA subdued countries worldwide using lots of tactics in several dimensions and multiple directions…. its amazing how they work. UK Empire learned well, but USA mastered this science. Ukrainians cannot do anything, to Ukrainians it is dooms day already.

Edgar Zetar

Guess, my comment was more than two months ago, not just one month…. also at the start of Ukraine Special Ops, I was one of the first to comment during Phase 1 Kiev Encirclement, Russia should have stormed ODESSA while UKI Army was waiting what will happen, and USA was hoping to stop agression…. Russia loosed (wasted) their advantage during Phase 1. Russia should have storm Odessa and secure the North Black Sea area, and then will be an easy cake the rest of the UKI campaign. But now, they are going to waste too much soldiers lives, ships, hardware and aircraft and risks maybe NATO USA Turkey Poland agression if they want to take Odessa and landlock UKI.

N007

Inevitable my ass. It’s all show and empty words. I mean they brag how they’ll give them “six additional 155-mm CAESAR self-propelled howitzers.” six shitty guns lol!
No one gives a f*ck about Ukros, not even their government. Especially not their own government. They’ll keep sending to meat grinder for a few more months until people start desperately demanding peace. Then Zelensky will ‘unwillingly’ accept, he’ll give 20-25% of Ukraine to Russia, everyone declares victory and that’s it. No WW3.

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Edgar Zetar

USA USA arent so exceptional after all… easily you can discover their new strategies. Thinking that every Western Country is just an extend or a tool of USA hand’s and USA haves the tool and used them as they pleased. Disponsable Tools would be at the end of times. 378. Several “Mazes” where created from every civilization, what lays underneath traveling “The Mazes” should never reach the highest layer. 492. The Human Head controlling the “Mazes” would become sick and insane. 493. When this happens everybody would be Doom. 499. Only the Enlightened beigns could overcome the doom of the corrupted civilization. 500. May the Soul of the Real Creators of “Mazes” would come to helps us!.

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Alan Z

These neocon madmen will just keep upping the ante . Their empire is dying , they are desperate. At some point Putin will have to unload on them .

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Sylvain

In France, We did vote No to EU. I did not vote for Macron. I’m not in the Ukraine side. I will not take part in this war whatever that “other France” government decides.

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Josephstalin

What war?
NATO countries are not prepared for war in any way.
They can send weapon, but not to send people.
And attacks on suply lines would harm global economy in huge scale.
It would hold West economy in almost everything.
West is already in war to extent to which dare to be.

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Donnchadh

There are 2 facts –
1- Russia has to win to achieve a multipolar world .
2-The USA knows that if it loses the “almighty $$/Petrodollar/Reserve currency /unipolar world /US domination/”exceptionalism ” is doomed .
The “Doomsday Clock ” is 100 seconds to midnight –I hope the posters here are right.

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jens holm

Fact is, currently they both profit

7even-N-6

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TopGum

US has already lost. No one beside their vassals sided with them. They isolated themselves. Russia did set up a big NATO grinder in Ukraine and is grinding down NATO weapons and Ukrainian servicemen. It doesn’t look like Russia is running out of anything, but NATO and US are. And Russia did not even had to take out the big guns.

Shelling civilians in Donetsk is a big miscalculation on the part of Zelensky. There will be not so many Ukrainian POWs the next few days. Russia’s forces are not bound to be that merciful. They can be, but that is entirely up to the enemy. A lot of scores have to be settled now between LNR, DNR and those Nazis.

user_defined

What Putin and Lavrov say is what is going to happen. Petro Dollar is already sunk. US/UK/EU, did that to themselves when they went bat shit crazy on sanctions.

give-me-a-break

Ukriane is probably lying about their losses, but who knows. Probably they don’t even know. As to mobilizing 1 million. That number is also probably a lie as even a casual look at their demographics would suggest. Remember, 1/2 the population is now in Russian control and 6 million people left the country when the invasion began.

Lets remember that in a modern military only 10-20% of people are actual trigger pullers of one sort or another. So in the AFU’s original 200k man Army, actual combat people was 20k – 40k. Most of those people are now gone, being replaced with new men or unknown motivation, with very little training or experience.

Hopefully those replacements are surrendering rather than being killed by the Russians in front of them or the Nazi’s behind them. I’m waiting to start hearing stories about AFU troops quietly killing their own officers and military police guards and then reaching out to the Russians to surrender.

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7even-N-6

Agreed its obviously insane wishful thinking but in reality its a way to prolong this unwinnable war as long as possible to keep robbing the European and American tax payer. Either way its over, the US, NATO are the huge losers and Russia and China will come out way on top. It is the beginning of the end of the U.S, empire and its EU puppet states.

zefplock

Seems boys with handicaps are drafted too … Run Forest Gumpniks !!! Run to the hills , run for your life !

Slonym

There are no mountains in 404. There’s nowhere to run. Soon Ukrainians will join the Jews. They will be two wandering nations. Perhaps somewhere in the bowels of Canada they will create their own state, Urkaine 2.0.

zefplock

“Run to the hill” was just a reference to an Iron Maiden song. Explicits lyrics.
“forest gumpnik” refers to the film Forest Gump where the hero is drafted despite and maybe also because he’s “mentally impaired”.
I know there is no mountain in 404, nearest one are south crimea :p

TopGum

Your calculation is alright. They meant not soldiers, they had “cannon fodder” in mind. Then yes, they have 2 million of those or even more.

Pork

During the Vietnam war, out of 100 US soldiers, 16 would actually pull the trigger, literally fire on the enemy. Less than half of those 16 would actually focus and fight. Imagine what that means for an army of rag-tags??

helene matz

one of these days russia will pull off the silk gloves and hammer ukraine

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Xsayarsa

The head of the hydra – the U.S. – must be destroyed for the sake of future generations. It will have impact on me, too, but I am ready to go. There is no other solution. The things went too far.

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Edgar Zetar

Hope USA comes to his senses and stop their madness… either way USA haves a five year window time to come back to his senses… after this five years… China Russia and multipolar world will easily take down USA hegemony… five years window or USA will become number 4 economy in the year 2040.

NEO LIBERISMS DOOMS DAY GAYS

3rd world economy more like it,unless theyd make drastic changes to foreign policys right now!

Christopher

Guess which minor religion sets out US foreign policy?

Cromwell

So far they have employed the queensbury rules,they could go to work with a blow torch and pliers.

TopGum

Things went too far for a long time. Russia has prepared itself all along as did China and the others. A bully has a good time if he/she takes one victim at a time. But when they all get together the bully is in big trouble.

Christopher

You threaten a Mother Bear protecting her cubs and you’ll get a mauling you won’t ever forget.

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7even-N-6

hahahaaaa love it!!

Josh

War Between NATO And Russia Is Inevitable,
No, it is not. Reality is going to settle in, some politicians are going to hoot, hollar, and flap their arms about, say a bunch of stupid things,
Then, there will either be a peace settlement, or the dispute will simply be left legally unresolved once the combat operations are concluded.

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TopGum

Yes, but you know … EU and US/NATO deserve a punch in their face just to make things clear who’s calling the shots from now on. Otherwise I think they will not get that, hence all that Ukraine i winning nonsense all the time.

Dick Von D'Astard

It’s got to be nearing the time where Russia starts taking out the decision making centres and the military decision makers… Zelenskyy is genociding the non Jewish population of Ukraine on behalf of the Straussian and Globalist Fourth Reich.

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Strelkov

Obviously Putin and Moscow Inc could’t care in the least.

Dick Von D'Astard

It would appear that Stoltenberg is disarming Europe, in order to force Nato members to place new orders for U.S. military weapons and equipment… American arms racket. Zelenskyy is acting as a salesman and scrap metal dealer.

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TopGum

They all don’t have any money for that crap. They all have inflation and are indebted beyond repaying anything. Hell, they can’t even pay interest anymore. That is the real reason behind 12 years of zero interest rates.

Josh

Otherwise,
Some ‘decision makers’ are likely to find themselves in some ‘unpredictable situations’.

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Neil Sutherland

Russia has destroyed all transportation from hungary and romania, moldavia, most of czech, leaving sending weapons through poland. even if weapons get through, they’re not game-changers, but flooding ukraine with new weapons just means that russia has to take the whole country, not stop east of the dnieper river. hopefully, the people hand zelensky today.

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Strelkov

Russia hasn’t destroyed anything. Damaged here and there, but the supply lines are never destroyed.

TopGum

They did disrupt the main-lines. Inform yourself dude.

satanika

I’m from Romania and I’ll go volunteering to the war to kill Russians and Ukrainians!

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Donnchadh

Then you will end up like those captured foreigners — put on trial in Donbass and given a death sentence.

NEO LIBERISMS DOOMS DAY GAYS

Your just a neo poof,can’t fight for shit,either way end up slaughterd by Orthodoxy or God (period)

Yuri

you nazis never change—losers in WWII you are now a US colony….you will volunteer to swallow CIA SPERM

Alan Z

There are neocon lunatics who think nuke war would be worth it , that the US would come out on top . Let’s hope that the sane and rational in the Pentagon and at the State Department out number the crazies .

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Rick Jefferson

The lunatics are in charge and everyone else just follow their orders.

Bernard Davis

State is infested with neocon fanatics of the sort that once controlled the Pentagon thru the so-called Office of Special Plans and engineered the invasion of Iraq. Since then the military has pretty well cleaned them out, so if there is any sanity left in the USG, that is where it will most likely be found. A pogrom at State is needed urgently.

M202

Wesley Clarke is right, NATO should be dissolved because of ineffectiveness. NATO is just a giant waste of taxpayer money. The people of NATO are giving up standard of living for pseudo security.

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Fletch

Most NATO members don’t fund the alliance in accordance with their per capita commitments. The only ones who do traditionally are Greece and the Baltics.

Most NATO members wouldn’t invoke Article V if Russia moved on Narva. Can’t imagine they would do so for lost territory in Ukraine.

ORCHARD1

Interesting analysis, but it presupposes that NATO has an army.
One of the stranger things about this conflict has been the way in which the leaders of the NATO member states, France and Germany in particular, have sat back and let the unelected bureaucrat, Stoltenberg, make all the running and do all the talking on behalf of NATO.
This from leaders of countries who become very brash and forceful when any affront to their sovereignty is made.
Could it be that a game is being played, one that exposes the empty threat that NATO has evolved into, and which will lead, as Wesley Clark commented, to it’s dissolution when it becomes unable to provide Ukraine with little more than lip service.
Is it a coincidence that Macron recently floated the idea of a n EU army.
It looks like Stoltenberg is being set up as the fall guy when the US and it’s EU allies finally abandon Ukraine.

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Edgar Zetar

USA will send trainers to teach EU NATO to learn the Art of War Tactics and Strategies in order to use the Military Weapons USA will sell NATO to establish the East Front against Russia. Just like during and after WWII USA believes that they will improve again their economy selling weapons. just check the income outcome in Ukraine war and you will see it is Business to USA. The only people who will lost are Ukrainians and EU

bgarr

If UKR is rewarded by becoming EU member not this war but the next provoked war can be WW3. End of all civilisation. nukes. Stop killing brothers and sisters. PEACE.

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Rick Jefferson

Russia will never allow UKR to join NATO and place nuclear missiles on its border. It would committing suicide.

Boggs

Rick Jefferson, those are two different things. Otherwise why won’t Russia act when Finland joins? Why are they prepared to tolerate Finland in NATO and just object to nuclear weapons on it’s territory? They could have done the same in Ukraine. Ukraine was not about NATO. It was about simple land grab. First in 2014 and now a continuation in 2022. Nothing else.

Last edited 2 years ago by Boggs
Strelkov

Russia can’t/won’t protect Donetsk or its own border territory.