Footage allegedly shows crash site. Click to see full-size image.
UPDATE: The downed airplane was a US Air Force plane that crashed above the Ghazni province, and it was allegedly shot down.
The crash happened over Taliban-controlled territory. A video published on social media of the crash site clearly shows the airplane is a US Air Force one.
Video #American aircraft shutdwaned in #Ghazni #Afghanistan pic.twitter.com/2Wm9pImtBi
— Tariq Ghazniwal (@TGhazniwal) January 27, 2020
The crashed plane was identified as the Bombardier E-11A aircraft. It is the military variant of the civil Bombardier BD-700 Global Express for use as overhead communications-relay platform
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On January 27th,reports appeared that a passenger plane, with 83 people onboard crashed in Afghanistan. According to reports, it was a Boeing 737-400 plane en route from Kabul to Herat which came down in the Deh Yak district of Ghazni, controlled by the Taliban.
Arif Noori, spokesman for the provincial governor, said the plane went down around 1:10 p.m. local time. Two provincial council members also confirmed the crash.
Initially, the reports were that a Afghan Ariana Airlines plane had crashed.
BREAKING NEWS: An aircraft has crashed in Deh Yak district of #Ghazni province, said a member of the local provincial council.
Details will be provided as they become available. #Afghanistan pic.twitter.com/6WnDkxCSVz
— TOLOnews (@TOLOnews) January 27, 2020
However, Ariana Airlines told The Associated Press that none of its planes have crashed in Afghanistan, according to Mirwais Mirzakwal, the company’s acting director.
The state-owned airline also released a statement on its website saying all its aircraft were operational and safe.
“There has been an airline crash but it does not belong to Ariana because the two flights managed by Ariana today from Herat to Kabul and Herat to Delhi are safe,” the airline’s acting CEO Mirwais Mirzakwal Mirzakwal told Reuters.
Thus, it remains unclear which company the jet belongs to. The number of people on board, what has become of them and the reasons for the crash are also unconfirmed.
The mountainous Ghazni province sits in the foothills of the Hindu Kush mountains and is dangerous in winter, due to very low temperatures.
The last major commercial air crash in Afghanistan occurred in 2005 when a Kam Air flight from western Herat to the capital Kabul crashed into the mountains as it tried to land in snowy weather.
Image allegedly showing the crash site. Click to see full-size
Meanwhile, the situation in the country remains tense, but the Afghan government appears to be working on a reconciliation plan, together with research organizations.
Former deputy minister Jawed Ludin, Jafar Mahdawi, Mohammad Ishaq Gailani, Janan Musazai, Suraya Dalil, Fawzia Kofi, Asif Rahimi and Mohammad Asim are part of a group that has worked on this plan over the past three months.
“The plan has been prepared by our friends with the help of the Heart of Asia office which is an independent organization,” said Sayed Ishaq Gailani, a politician and a member of the team that prepared the plan.
“Overall, the plan is about the fact that all the stakeholders should represent Afghans and this group (mentioned in the plan) should attend the intra-Afghan negotiations with the Taliban,” he added.
Afghan President Ashraf Ghani met with US Charge de Affairs Ross Wilson and US and NATO forces commander Gen. Scott Miller.
In this meeting, Gen. Miller said that the US-Taliban talks are underway in Doha and that the United States chief negotiator Zalmay Khalilzad will visit Kabul if the talks reach progress.
“The Taliban are interested in a ceasefire but after a deal on foreign forces withdrawal from Afghanistan,” said Abdul Shakoor Motmaen, a former Taliban member. “Intra-Afghan meetings will be held after a ceasefire in order to discuss peace.”
On January 23rd, President Ashraf Ghani said that Afghanistan was prepared for a major reduction in US forces presence in the country.
The US-Taliban talks seem to be making progress, and Ghani wants the Afghan government to also be a part of them.
In January, Taliban have offered a brief period of “violence reduction,” a vague term that likely means holding back attacks on major cities and highways.
Ghani’s government has insisted on pushing the Taliban for nothing short of a cease-fire to show that the insurgents are genuine about peace and negotiating a shared political future, saying that a “reduction of violence” is meaningless.
“It’s like pregnancy,” Ghani said. “We really can’t be half pregnant.”
In spite of the negotiations and rhetoric, clashes between US-backed Afghan Forces and Taliban continue.
In clashes between January 25th and 26th, Afghan forces reportedly killed 51 Taliban fighters in ground attacks and airstrikes in nine provinces.
The Taliban assumed responsibility for an IED attack in the Kandahar Province that targeted a NATO convoy. Some reports claimed that there was 1 casualty, NATO hasn’t confirmed any casualties.
Reports of airstrikes by the US killing scores of civilians are also commonplace. On January 8th a US airstrike reportedly killed at least 10 civilians, while attempting to target Taliban positions.
Wakil Ahmad Karokhi, a provincial council member in Herat, said the strike also killed the commander of a Taliban splinter group, known as Mullah Nangyalia, along with 15 other militants.
Regardless, more than half of Afghanistan is under Taliban control, and many parts are still contested, with the US-backed puppet government constantly on the back foot.
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mossad at it again!
Its you seeing what you want to see, as usual.
Its US air force plane. Downed in Taliban area. Take your guess who shot it down..
Not worthy of wild speculation when the proof is there.
mossad will do anything to raise the tension between Iran and israel’s primary useful idiot, the disunited states of A of course. the alternative is that the talibans are showing the disunited morons that they have nothing to negotiate with and that the only way out is out and that there is no honourable truce for the disunited morons – which is exactly what the disunited morons been trying to achieve over the last years. they want to go home without having to write down afghanistan as an abject defeat, which it is. the talibans have the disunited morons by the short and curly and the morons are trying to wiggle out of the hold, which won’t happen. the disunited states of A is toast in afghanistan and the middle east and is just throwing good money after bad.
“USAF says ‘it appears we lost a plane’ as Afghani journos uncover DOCUMENTS from crash site (PHOTOS)”
https://www.rt.com/news/479311-usaf-plane-taliban-afghanistan/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=push_notifications&utm_campaign=push_notifications
Fake news and fake documents.
All Americans and Israelis returned safely to their home base after hitting all their targets in a precision strike.
Lol.
This is definitely a manpad or SAM hit, courtesy of Americunts.
Looks like a crash landing with fire to me. The plane was brought to the ground in a controlled manner then caught fire
Let’s hope you are right, but Afghanistan is occupied and the Americunts lie a lot so we will never know.
This is too big a loss to gloss over. Even Fox news can not whitewash the downing.
All American MSN will tell the story they are told to tell . Who is going to believe a Taliban saying we shot it down when the “honest news” tells them it was a result of engine failure and crashed as a result. Credible witnesses will be found and scripted to verify the truth. Unless you were there and know the truth , which will never be allowed to see the light of day anyway , who is able to say other than what propaganda they are told to believe. Who issues the truth , the US Military via the Politclal Office of Control.
Taliban have all the proof they need. They were first on the scene and released the tail photos and videos with the US flag.
That doesn’t prove it was shot down , only thaat it crashed from perhaps engine failure. Also that will never see the light of day in America unless edited to show nothing nefarious happened. So the taliban set it on fire after it crashed ..Hollywood doesn’t only exist to make movies.. No point wasting all that ability to make fantasy look real. American government doesn’t have to tell the truth if it is in their interest to lie.
Already they are denying it was shot down Before they even get to the site and check.. That is the story that will stick in the minds of most even if later they quietly admit it was shot down. The Official story is it crashed , NOT shot down , now you prove it was..
The US military has acknowledged the loss of a Bombardier/Northrop Grumman E-11A plane in central Afghanistan. They added that they have not found any “indication” that the aircraft was downed.
“USAF says ‘it appears we lost a plane’ as Afghani journos uncover DOCUMENTS from crash site (PHOTOS)” RT.COM
Eyewitnesses claim the plane was on fire when it fell. US needs to come clean or there will be wild speculation and zero credibility. Some Canadian NATO servicemen may also have been killed.
That well could be the reality, and in many ways it might be the best result.
The crew is dead or captured and the very very expensive plane is destroyed.
That’s still a win in my book
Massive US intelligence failure and many secrets falling into Taliban hands. The whole CIA Afghanistan and Pakistan section has been eliminated along with senior DIA/NSA officers. The real story is coming out slowly despite total Pentagon censorship.
As if they’d have everyone of importance all on one plane only to be shot down at some point? Sounds a bit overblown to me.
Taliban are claiming the same, US needs to come clean, it has been a very humiliating loss. This was prized ELINT aircraft with many senior officers, including a general.
That is perfect karma for the US then :)
haha Karma is a bitch and you ain’t seen nothing yet :)
Scum
Look at the engine placement at the tail. 737 engines mount on the wings. It isn’t a standard transport in the US air Force fleet either.
Air CIA to airlift alCIAda.
The tail looks like a Bombardier CRJ family but the engines on the crash don’t look the same. 80 passengers would be about right for a larger CRJ though.
https://www.bombardier.com/en/aviation/commercial-aircraft.html
How about a Bombardier E-11? It is based on the CRJ family and the engines look like a match. I looked up the cost and Lockheed was awarded 210 million to modify and maintain 4 aircraft.
http://www.zap16.com/2013/06/02/bombardier-e-11a/
This plane was on a top secret mission according to Indian channels and there was no flight plan. It is a huge loss for US.
It is a radio relay platform. Every mission has that designation so there is no reason to think this was anything but routine. There was a press release a few years back that the group has flown it’s 10,000th mission in Afghanistan. They need this radio relay plane to handle the radio propagation problem in the mountains.
Then that means they only have three to go.!!!
I see the Pentagon has found the perfect thing to cover those casualties fron the Iranian base strikes …
A death here, a disappearance there, soon it will all be swept under the carpet …
Those transgender multicultural gays obama promoted in the military are a lot smarter than you public schools retards.
American public school retards maybe but not us Swedish public school retards.
E-11A, United States Air Force designation for four Global 6000s being used as a platform for the Battlefield Airborne Communications Node.
If this was purposefully shot down, then the Taliban just scored a big win for themselves.
Indian media is confirming that it was a Canadian built Bombardier E-11A electronic intel aircraft with NATO forces with many senior officers on-board and over 100 fatalities. All have been killed and the area is under Taliban control and US may suffer more casualties in it sends in teams. Taliban are claiming responsibility and eyewitnesses tell of the plane was on fire before it hit the ground. The US should acknowledge its loss or face eroding credibility.
Certainly would not be 100… E-11A has 2 – 4 crew members and 10 – 18 intelligence personnel .
There is a lot of speculation on E-24 India because the US has changed its story many times and blamed it on Ariana the Afghan Airline which is serviced by India. The Ariana people flatly rejected US claims that it was their plane. Now the Taliban are posting videos. In any case it was US airforce plane and looks like a certain downing.
Yes, Pentagon is going to have to announce the loss and make a statement.
Can’t pretend this disaster did not happen.
US is looking like amateurs and have lost all credibility. Trump has turned America into a joke.
Esper must be exasperated.
Esper is a liar like Trump. Their uncalled for and illegal killing of Soleimani was even criticized by India for unnecessarily provoking Iran.
U.S. thinks it can control the growth of countries such as India, by controlling countries like Iran/Iraq…
It is in not in any Asian powers interests to allow such a future. (China, India, Indonesia, Korea or Japan etc, etc)
Indians are not stupid. Iran is a good neighbour and a friend. We will never abandon Iran and Chah Bahar project.We also have the world’s second largest Shia population who are not that enamored with Wahhabi Pakistan.
Well it’s now got to the point where West and East Asian countries have to cooperate on critical security matters together or become client states of Pax America forever.
India refused the US escalation in the Persian Gulf and most Indians are secular and do not like the demonisation of our Muslims by CIA supported Modi’s RSS. We also resent Zionist influence that is poisoning Hindu-Muslim harmony as Gandhi ji promoted.
Get rid of the Zionist arselicker tea stall Modi arsehole and ya’ll be fine.
Esperated.
Wrap the joke in a flag and every moron will look at the flag and not the joke.
Good news indeed.
Let the hatred of the US that has united the disparate ideologies of the Muslim world continue :)
US arrogance is uniting all the local resistance actors.
If it was the Taliban,the missile could have been Gift Wrapped and sent by a neighbouring nation :)
Taliban will launch a major spring offense and India has closed all consulates and withdrawn the civilian engineers.
No idea what you might be inferring… [tumbleweed]
Pay back a bitch and it isn’t over by the long shot,for there will be many more for the death of the Iranian general.!!!
Well, whoever has done it, kudos to them. They obviously got their act together. Americunts have gone under the radar and not a pip squeak from Esper the Jew or his fat orange old boss.
The Battlefield Airborne Communications Node (BACN) is a United States Air Force (USAF) airborne communications relay and gateway system carried by the unmanned EQ-4B and the manned Bombardier E-11A aircraft. BACN enables real-time information flow across the battlespace between similar and dissimilar tactical data link and voice systems through relay, bridging, and data translation in line-of-sight and beyond-line-of-sight situations.[1] Its ability to translate between dissimilar communications systems allows them to interoperate without modification.
Because of its flexible deployment options and ability to operate at high altitudes, BACN can enable air and surface forces to overcome communications difficulties caused by mountains, other rough terrain, or distance. BACN provides critical information to all operational echelons and increases situational awareness by correlating tactical and operational air and ground pictures. For example, an Army unit on the ground currently sees a different picture than an aircrew, but with BACN, both can see the same picture.
On 22 February 2010, the Air Force and Northrop Grumman BACN Team received the 2010 Network Centric Warfare Award from the Institute for Defense and Government Advancement.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_Airborne_Communications_Node
Did they just take care of the whole of their loss in Ayn-al-Assad base in one go?
Loss of life is sad from any side. They were tools of oppression, they hurt people of the countries they occupy but at the same time, they had families, children and parents who were waiting for them and their death will affect them for the worse. Yes, I’m sad and feel for our enemies’ fathers, mothers and children.
None of the countless death and destruction would’ve happened if they were not there in the first place.
I hope American government come to their sense and stop being what they are now. Against their nature? A so very far-fetched wish, bordering fantasy but still a happy fantasy where everybody gets to live.
Lol it is their nature they never have seen a war that they didn’t dis-like even if they had to create one.!!!
Ya of course there is something fishy about this incident don’t u think it sounds zio cia scum
Taliban are releasing more and verified reports about the CIA downed plane. This is one of the worst losses the US occupation forces have suffered in Afghanistan since 2001. These were very senior intelligence and military officers.
Is the taliban done it or they were they already death on 8 January in Iraq ain asad base and its a hoax played by the zio cia but i do e think its a technical failure by coincidence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkrCd8tGbmI
“Imagine all the people living for the day……no one to kill or die for” Garga you are not the only one..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkgkThdzX-8
Have you noticed that since things have started doing south for the dumbass Americunt savages, there are no hasbara Jew fucks commenting here on these items. ROFLMAO.
Now it is clearly evident from all the videos and western media reports that the US spy plane which flew from the Afghan-Herat border city to its base in Jacobabad Pakistan was on a highly sensitive secret mission which the CIA is using Pakistani Baluchistan as a base to destabilize Iran. It is also quite evident that US is throwing a smokescreen over its tremendous intelligence loss and failure.
A Taliban spokesman said that the aircraft’s crew and everyone on board, including what he claimed were high-ranking officers, were killed on the spot. The Taliban also displayed captured electronic intelligence equipment and clearly marked CIA and DIA documents.
The so-far unverified claim includes a report that the officers belonged to the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). There is also an Afghan government spokesman who on the condition of anonymity stated that a US NSA general had been killed.
I’m glad it wasn’t a civilian airliner, and I am glad it WAS a US terrorist military aircraft, hopefully many american terrorists and spies are dead now. :)
US role in the region has been a disaster and even Indian TV channels are questioning US lies.
The UK BBC and media just parrots the infantile US lies.
BBC is now a Zionist mouthpiece as the Labour left and Corbyn openly said, ,much to their chagrin.
BBC and Jew York Times are trying to out do Fox with their Zionist lies.
SF needs to update and highlight its excellent coverage of the CIA plane downing. Now the Taliban have shown the wreckage of a US Chinook CH-47 that was brought down by a manpad in the same region.
A US airforce spy plane was shot down in the Afghan province of Ghazni earlier in the day, with Pentagon initially rel;easing false reports saying that the crashed jet belonged to a foreign company, Ariana Afghan Airlines, the Afghan National Army, or
that it was a US aircraft on an “intelligence mission”.
The Taliban have now shown the wreckage of a Chinook Ch-47helicopter that has been downed in Paktika province, a tweet posted by the movement’s spokesman shows.
“Tonight after the incident in Ghazni, an enemy military helicopter was shot
down near Sharan, the capital of the Paktika province, it was completely
destroyed. All people on board died”, the tweet says.The statement comes a few hours after the downing of the Bombardier E-11 A spy plane.
Try again, smelly CENTCOM disruption troll. E-11A’s are not ‘CIA’ aircraft. They’re well-documented, regular USAF aircraft performing BACN ops – an airborne relay node for regional ground-ground communications.
The Taliban, themselves, denied ‘shooting down’ the aircraft and said it crash landed. They have no idea why. Two charred bodies presumed to be the pilots were recovered by locals (not Taliban) and turned over to authorities. No word of other bodies or survivors except in unsourced rumors hours later. An E-11A does not need a dozen crew in the back for BACN ops, nor would it ever have any reason to carry high-ranking CIA officers, even on ELINT missions. It flies in circles over an area for hours on end acting like an antenna and relay for ground ops.
Some Afghan ‘second vice president’ falsely or mistakenly reported the aircraft was a civilian airliner with 83 passengers – probably after seeing video/photos of the white fuselage and the row of multiple windows like regular passenger aircraft. AFCENT’s first statement was several hours later and confirmed it was a USAF aircraft. They said nothing until then. Don’t they even let you guys read Twitter?
The clearly-marked Afghan forces MD 530F Cayuse Warrior light attack helicopter wreckage from the later crash wasn’t anything remotely like a CH-47, nor does the ANA have any today. In fact, it was just announced that ANA will get both UH-60 Blackhawks and CH-47s to replace their old Mi-17s – supposedly by 2023. The US already supplied new MD 530Fs to the ANA which they fly now, mystery future troll.
Americunts are embarrassed and pressed the MUTE button lol
It is a bigger loss that your Il-20 shot down by Israelis in Syria. The US will lose a lot of intel data as the Taliban got there first.
It was a CIA flight and there has been a big loss of life and intelligence failure. The Taliban have proved to be far more sophisticated that expected. Even Russian intelligence has been amazed at the audacity of the Taliban aerial ambush and inside knowledge of flight path and the aircraft’s altitude and precise location. The Herat US airbase security has been compromised.
The Air Force has a total of four E-11As, including the one that has now crashed. These planes are based on the Canadian Bombardier BD-700 Global Express business jet, which are forward-deployed in Afghanistan assigned to the 430th Expeditionary Electronic Combat Squadron at Kandahar Airfield.
These aircraft carry the Battlefield Airborne Control Node (BACN) payload, which allows them to act as highly specialized aerial communications nodes that can
rapidly shift information to and from a wide variety of airborne platforms and forces on the ground. There are also three EQ-4B Global Hawk drones that carry the BACN package. They cost in excess of $200 million.
Yeah, good news of sorts. Boeing must be also be relived that it isn’t another one of theirs.
Canadian dopers made this flying junk. Bombardier is a joke worse than Brazilian Embraer. They are cheap pieces of shit which some doped up Canuck punks have assembled after a bad acid trip in their mommy’s garage in Montreal.
This was a CIA flight that originated near the Iranian border near Herat and was en-route to Pakistan. It is also amply clear that the Taliban had excellent intel and shot it down in a well executed manpad ambush. The US is highly embarrassed and a major cover up is underway. US media has been silenced but the Russians, Indians, Iranians and Afghans are giving out more and more information. The Taliban have been proven to have complete credibility. This is a intelligence and public relations disaster for the CIA and Pentagon and also shows their acute vulnerability.
hahaha the stupid Americunts are NOT looking that Hollywood cool anymore, even the Taliban zapped the fuckers by the looks of it. No details coming forward from the fat old orange dotard :)
First Kobe Bryant, now this…
Hahahahaha right
Soleimani speaks from beyond the grave …
but the Pentagon cowards speaketh not!
Thy pentagram oil bitches unhallow SHALL NOT PASS!
and hasbara fucks have also disappeared :)
If this was a Taliban shootdown then it would indicate they’ve acquired weapons they did not have before. Now the question would be where could those weapons possibly have come from …
More likely to be an accident, or rather an accident made within a pressured environment.
Could be. Pattern of shootdowns in the last month makes that less likely: There have been 4 helicopter shootdowns reported this month, which seems like a spike relative to the last 12 months. Circumstantial: Seems like a surprising coincidence that in the same month of an American attack on Iran, with promised retaliation, a large military airliner goes down very close to Iran. Just speculating …
Sputnik reporting Taliban are claiming another military helicopter downing…
Taliban Claims Has Downed Helicopter in Paktika Province, Afghanistan – Tweet
“”Tonight after the incident in Ghazni, an enemy military helicopter was shot down near Sharan, the capital of the Paktika province, it was completely destroyed. All people on board died”, the tweet says.”
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202001271078153613-taliban-claims-helicopter-downed-in-afghanistan/
No verifying footage or video corroborating and backing up claims however.
I’m going to go out on a limb and predict a whole lot more of these events in february and for the entire year. Things are going to get much hotter than in the last 10 years …
Rumoirs of a C-27 Spartan crash in Iraq:
https://www.garda.com/crisis24/news-alerts/309631/iraq-us-military-aircraft-reportedly-crashes-in-anbar-province-january-29
A darn good guess I would say as the Mid-East catch’s fire,!!!
Eventually Taliban will get Afghanistan back. Mainstream media calls them as insurgents. Actually Taliban was the government before 2001. You’d not like Taliban’s lame methods, which is pretty similar to al-Qaeda & ISIS. But they are certainly not an insurgence.
As an American I feel that the trillions of dollars shovelled into the furnace known as Afghanistan is some of the best-spent money I can think of. We’re building schools for girls there! All the stumpy veterans and economic inflation at home is totally worth it. Great job guys!
The best part of it is the cheap heroine.
Revenues for the deep state to defend the dollar and plenty of cheap heroine for all Americans and our American children.
Where are all the Hasbara trolls comments on this event? Oh that’s right it’s a US plane that has been downed. Shhh everyone I can hear the crickets chirping from the Hasbara troll farms tonight, can you?
Looks like Iranian manpads have finally made it to the taliban. Thank you Soleimani.
Expect US birds to be dropping outta the sky like rain. Looks like negotiations for the US just got tougher – less negotiating, more shooting and the US will leave without a deal.
We have no problem of leaving Afghanistan as long as Taleban is committed to maintain the opium fields and take usury loans from City Bank or JP Morgan.
Hey all zio cia drama look at it Iran claim more then 80 died in its attack on the zios base and the plane was carrying more 80 here and so called this invincible military as a loss of more than 80 scums by a technical failure in there so called super advanced plane which is invincible according to the zio scums.such a bad story u followers of isther her uncle mordei nimrod and nimrod’s mother isther u zionist scums such as insane as like u. Am not saying this to the pious Jewish people but to the satanic zios. Meanwhile maarat Al numan been encircled so bad for ur most loyal slaves the wahhabis insane coward tyrant scums(L. A) u zio fools(L. A)
I would imagine that some visitors from Iran will be sifting through the wreckage. The black box would be interesting on its own
This story smells of stinking fish all over the place.
CIA has lost its whole Afghanistan and Pakistan cell.
Oh, has it now? lol
Am really happy so much dead zio scums but the question remains was it was the taliban or they already died on 8th January in Iraq ain asad base and its a hoax By zio cia scum for covering up their ass of so called invincible reputation
Any trolls think murdering Suleimani was still a good idea? January ain’t over yet.
Anyone have any intel to verify this:
“VT Damascus: (Russian intelligence sources confirm) It has been reported that (Mike de Andrea) responsible for the assassination file of the martyr Major General Qassem Soleimani was killed in the accident of the American plane that was shot down in Afghanistan. He is the most prominent figure of the CIA intelligence in the region. The CIA top official was killed in the US bomber crash in Afghanistan. Since 2017, D’ Andrea has run the CIA’s false flag and assassination programs in the Middle East, allegedly responsible not only for the murder of General Soleimani but the killing of 300 Iraqi demonstrators as well.”
Posted from VT.
Dude wow
Not confirmation, but worth following up …
That dude has a wiki page:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D%27Andrea
did amerikan pornographers—presstitutes, report this?
Stenographers is the word you’re looking for. It’s still working it’s way through the 24 hour spin cycle …